Raiders vs Dolphins Gameday Thread

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Lol @ blaming this on McKenzie. Dude takes over a bad team with no draft picks and a bunch of old overpaid turds and you expect them to be good right away. Everyone in the world thought all those trades of first round picks for old turds were dumb except Raider fans and Al Davis. It's gonna take a couple drafts to recover from all the bad moves the last couple years. Funny to think your gonna get better by being the only team who doesn't get better players.
If he doesn't do anything about the bad playcalling and run blocking scheme then he indeed is apart of the failure. This is the worst Mcfadden has looked in like 3 years and it obviously has nothing to do with Mcfadden decreasing in skills at all. Our offense should have not needed much changes to it yet they changed everything. Blame it on whoever but McKenzie is the one overlooking things, he has to do something about it.
 
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lol, the Raiders had an efficient offense last year. You do realize this right? they got a bunch of young talented wideouts, so why all of a sudden they suck????????????
 
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I think they know that they are gonna suck this year. Everyone in the world knew that except for Raiders fans.



not sure how much you follow the raiders, but to think they were gonna suck im sure has to do with your bias. I mean the last two years they were 8-8. we just missed the playoffs by the last game of the year. Most teams who are in the bubble like that are expected to finally take the leap in the right direction right? not sure who you root for but im sure if your team was 8-8 the year before you would expect them to get better the next year right?
 

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not sure how much you follow the raiders, but to think they were gonna suck im sure has to do with your bias. I mean the last two years they were 8-8. we just missed the playoffs by the last game of the year. Most teams who are in the bubble like that are expected to finally take the leap in the right direction right? not sure who you root for but im sure if your team was 8-8 the year before you would expect them to get better the next year right?
Lol you are expected to make a leap if your a young team not if you trade all your draft picks away. Why would you expect to be better when youve done nothing to improve your team and everyone else did?
 
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So how did they rank 9th in total offense last season despite Mcfadden missing half the season and Campbell getting knocked out for the year and missed the last 7 games?
 
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Meta4iCAL

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Lol @ blaming this on McKenzie. Dude takes over a bad team with no draft picks and a bunch of old overpaid turds and you expect them to be good right away. Everyone in the world thought all those trades of first round picks for old turds were dumb except Raider fans and Al Davis. It's gonna take a couple drafts to recover from all the bad moves the last couple years. Funny to think your gonna get better by being the only team who doesn't get better players.
you can't say we didn't get better players though. we got back our best offensive player, and one of our best defensive players who was out all last year. that's just as valuable as a couple high draft picks in terms of immediate production

Most of your draft picks aren't gonna be huge impact players until at least a year or 2, so saying that's the reason we aren't gonna be better THIS YEAR is hella stupid. The reason we're not looking better is because our offensive scheme does not fit our personnel, period. So many people have said McFadden is not built for the ZBS, and our offense runs through him. We relied on our offense last year, so without a good running game it's not gonna be productive enough to make up for our shitty defense.

It looks like you're right in the fact that we won't be better (and probably will be worse) than last season, so I'll give you that. However, you're logic and reasoning behind it is completely flawed.
 
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you can't say we didn't get better players though. we got back our best offensive player, and one of our best defensive players who was out all last year. that's just as valuable as a couple high draft picks in terms of immediate production

Most of your draft picks aren't gonna be huge impact players until at least a year or 2, so saying that's the reason we aren't gonna be better THIS YEAR is hella stupid. The reason we're not looking better is because our offensive scheme does not fit our personnel, period. So many people have said McFadden is not built for the ZBS, and our offense runs through him. We relied on our offense last year, so without a good running game it's not gonna be productive enough to make up for our shitty defense.

It looks like you're right in the fact that we won't be better (and probably will be worse) than last season, so I'll give you that. However, you're logic and reasoning behind it is completely flawed.
Nah I'm right. It is dumb to switch to zone blocking but not as dumb as it is to trade all your first round picks for guys in their 30s to go 8-8. Those are the kind of trades you make when your one player away from the superbowl.
 

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So how did they rank 9th in total offense last season despite Mcfadden missing half the season and Campbell getting knocked out for the year and missed the last 7 games?
When youre losing by alot, other teams defense usually go to a prevent D, which allows the offense to gain chunks of yards at a time. Thats how
 

Meta4iCAL

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Nah I'm right. It is dumb to switch to zone blocking but not as dumb as it is to trade all your first round picks for guys in their 30s to go 8-8. Those are the kind of trades you make when your one player away from the superbowl.
I understand what you're saying, but as far as the impact it has THIS season... you are completely wrong