Raiders add Russell to roster, put Walter in limbo

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No. 1 pick in mix for Raiders who haven't named starter

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ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders quarterback situation just got a little more muddled Monday when top pick JaMarcus Russell was added to the roster and starter Josh McCown's status was in doubt because of a sore foot.



Those factors have put third-stringer Andrew Walter in limbo. The Raiders have talked to teams about trading Walter, who started eight games last season, but don't want to make a move until they know if McCown is healthy.


After starting the offseason as the only quarterback on the roster, Walter has watched as the Raiders traded for McCown, drafted Russell and signed Daunte Culpepper. Expecting to get a chance with a new team after Russell had to be added to the roster, Walter instead found out he would have to wait longer.


The Raiders released cornerback Duane Starks to make room for Russell, and will keep four quarterbacks for now.


"I've been talking to him through this whole thing," coach Lane Kiffin said Monday. "Sometimes things are just unlucky for a guy. In a way he's not having very good luck with JaMarcus' holdout and now a trade possibility coming up and Josh's injury maybe set that back. He understands. It is what it is. He also could be winning the game for us Sunday as well."


The starter this week at Miami is still in doubt.


McCown started the first three games, but was replaced in the second half of Sunday's 26-24 win over Cleveland by Culpepper after sustaining an injured left foot in the first half.



McCown, who injured his right foot in the season opener, was limping around after the game and Kiffin said he did not know how much he'd be able to practice this week.


"Josh got banged around in that game pretty good," Kiffin said. "It's his other foot. I will have a clearer idea of it for you guys by Wednesday. But we have to figure out is Josh able to play and if he is able to play, how much can he do."


McCown is 44-for-68 for 494 yards and four touchdowns this season, but has also thrown five interceptions.


Culpepper was solid in relief, going 8-for-14 for 118 yards and leading two scoring drives without turning the ball over. He joined the team July 31 and had a limited playbook because he had very little practice with the first team last week.


"If Daunte is the starter he will get better because he'll have a full week of reps," Kiffin said.



Culpepper lost out to McCown for the starting job because he wasn't as familiar with the offense. Kiffin praised Culpepper's performance in that aspect, saying he avoided delay of game penalties, changed plays at the line of scrimmage and protected the ball.


"I feel very comfortable in this offense right now," Culpepper said. "The more I do it, the more comfortable I am in it. Being here every day, not having to play gave me an opportunity to absorb it a little more. I feel like I'm ready whenever I'm called on."


Culpepper, who was named to three Pro Bowls in Minnesota, was released in July by the Dolphins. He was slowed by a knee injury in his one season in Miami but said it would hold no special meaning playing his former team.


"To me, they're just another team," he said. "They're just the next name on the schedule."
 
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Raiders keeping four quarterbacks on the roster; 1 will likely be gone by Monday

The Raiders are currently keeping four quarterbacks on the roster; one will likely be gone by Monday, when Dominic Rhodes' four-game suspension ends.

Russell has been hanging around Alameda for two weeks now. He's been working one-on-one with quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo practically every day, and has attended recent games in Denver and Oakland. But Monday, Russell officially became a member of football's losingest team over the last four-plus seasons. His two-week roster exemption ended, and the Raiders added him to their 53-man roster.

The rookie quarterback is unlikely to play anytime soon. Some wonder whether he'll see the field at all this year. But at least he can put on a practice uniform, pretend to be Trent Green -- that seems like a stretch -- and mix on the field with his teammates. "Yeah," Russell said in the locker room Monday. "Tired of wearing sweatpants all day."

If you expected Russell's arrival to bounce another of the Raiders' quarterbacks, you haven't been paying close attention to this team. Coach Lane Kiffin and his brain trust have turned the quarterback position into a weekly soap opera, starring the gutsy everyman (Josh McCown), the flashy celebrity (Daunte Culpepper), the jilted ex-lobber (Andrew Walter) and the aw-shucks kid (Russell).

Rather than cutting Walter or trading one of the other two when they activated Russell, Oakland released cornerback Duane Starks -- part of what had been a bloated 11-man secondary.

So for now, the Raiders have four QBs on their roster. That doesn't mean they'll keep all four through the season. Remember, Dominic Rhodes' four-game suspension ends next Monday, the day after the game at Miami. If they haven't worked out a trade by then, you'd have to figure Walter would get the ax.

"I've been talking to (Walter) through this whole thing," Kiffin said. "Sometimes things are just unlucky for a guy. In a way, he's not having very good luck, with JaMarcus' holdout and now a trade possibility coming up, and Josh's injury maybe set that back. He understands. . . . He also could be winning the game for us Sunday."

As for Josh and Daunte . . .

McCown and Culpepper both played in the 26-24 victory over Cleveland, but it didn't seem to settle their competition one way or the other. Kiffin praised Culpepper Monday, lauding both his throws and his game management, the factor that has seemed to favor McCown.

"Daunte did a good job, a really good job formationally, even had a couple of signal audibles that were the proper checks on the snaps he was in there," Kiffin said.

At the same time, he hinted that the job might still belong to McCown if the three-game starter is healthy enough to play. A Browns defensive lineman fell on his ankle late in the first quarter, and by halftime he was limping badly. Kiffin wouldn't name a starter Monday.

"I need to know all the variables, which I don't know right now," the coach said. "When's he (McCown) healthy? Is he healthy tomorrow, or is he not healthy till Friday? So for me to answer that right now, there's too many variables in it to know.

I can say this, I feel really confident, like I've said all along, in both quarterbacks."

Tough love

Kiffin's evaluations of wide receiver Mike Williams sometimes border on the comical. This is an athlete he has known since Williams was playing high school football in Florida and Kiffin was successfully recruiting him to USC. Perhaps it's all a motivational tool. Or maybe they're so close, they laugh together about Kiffin's public pronouncements when no reporters are around.

But if Williams does something positive, the coach invariably tempers his assessment. And when the receiver messes up, like he did Sunday when he fumbled after a reception, Kiffin doesn't sound, uh, pleased.

"The word 'pleased' isn't anywhere near Mike Williams right now," he said Monday. "And I'm sure Mike would be the first to tell you. Mike did not play well at all. And he's in position to make plays, but that doesn't do you any good to be in position if you don't make 'em. So he's gonna need to step it up."

On, Daisher! On, Schneider!

It's pretty much guaranteed that the only person at McAfee Coliseum happier about Joshua Cribbs' 99-yard kickoff return than Cribbs himself was Browns special teams coach Ted Daisher.

Daisher managed the Raiders' special teams last year, and his one season here was filled with acrimony. He was renowned for carping at his players relentlessly, and for ignoring their input in the game plan. He supposedly challenged players to fight him on the sidelines during one game. When he was dumped in favor of Brian Schneider for 2007, many of his former charges cheered openly.

Daisher must have felt a measure of revenge, then, when Cribbs got Cleveland on the board with a second-quarter touchdown. (Cribbs, by the way, had kick returns of 65 and 53 yards to aid the Browns' comeback win at Oakland in 2006.) But the Raiders got the last laugh when Tommy Kelly barreled though Daisher's blockers and swatted down Phil Dawson's last-second field-goal attempt.

Injury updates

Kiffin is loathe to give out any injury information on Mondays. He did say, though, that defensive end Derrick Burgess might be able to play at Miami. Linebacker Robert Thomas pronounced himself ready to practice Wednesday. And special-teams whiz Isaiah Ekejiuba said he hopes to start practicing this week as well, but that seems overly optimistic for a guy who hasn't even started jogging on his battered foot yet.

The other injury concerns are McCown and left guard Robert Gallery, who hurt his left shoulder.

You can reach Staff Writer Phil Barber at 526-8672 or [email protected].

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Then what's Kiffin talking about people not being on scholarships? Has Mike Williams lost any weight? This dude is tall and big but he gets no kind of separation from DB's what's so ever... None. What was his 40 time when he came out of college? I would have never drafted that dude man.
 

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No wonder he can't get seperation from DB's. I wasn't expecting him to blow by defenders like Galloway but man that dude is slow. Madsen maybe even faster than Mike Williams. Should have kept Doug Gabriel...
 
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Gabriel was a good deep threat. Mike Williams is a bust... Hes good at catching endzone passes near the sideline, thats about it. Right now for WR's we got Porter, Curry, Williams, Johnie Lee Higgins. We need to draft a WR in the first round next year hopefully DeSean Jackson but I don't think we're going to have a high enough pick.
 
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kiffin should use johnnie lee higgins more, by the end of this season im sure he will be playing more fools fuckin fast and got good hands

heres sum highlights of him at utep he had jordan palmer (carson palmers brother) as qb

 
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i feel like Williams can get seperation (he doesnt need much cosidering he has inches on whoever is guarding him) its a matter of catching the ball and keeping his head in the game.
 
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^^not if he's goin up against a corner thats runnin a 4.2 or 3 and he's like a 4.7 i aint never seen him run by any corner they always on his hip runnin right wit his ass
 

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^Yeah man that dude is never open. And if he is open that probably means someone blew a coverage. Mike Williams was already slow coming out of USC now he's even slower. If you're a receiver and you couldn't blossom in Mike Martz' system you got problems.
 
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I would like to see Russell play but that would be too early to give up on Culpepper.
True, Russell shouldn't make a appearance until at least Week 12-13 and shouldn't start until at least Week 14-15. But he has to start at least 2-3 games this year to gain some experience next year imo.
 

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I think Russell playing this year depends on if the Raiders are in the hunt for the playoffs. If we get disqualified then I'd give Russell some reps... especially if we're playing spoiler (against a team with the playoffs on the line) that way he'll see all kinds of blitzes. Throw him into the fire.

But if we're in the hunt for a playoff spot then I wouldn't play Russell unless Culpepper and McCown were hurt.
 
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True, Russell shouldn't make a appearance until at least Week 12-13 and shouldn't start until at least Week 14-15. But he has to start at least 2-3 games this year to gain some experience next year imo.
no he doesnt that is wat next years preseason is for he dont need to play at all this year unless like tony said we are out of the playoffs otherwise he needs to sit and learn and people forget he was not even the best qb comin outta college he had one good game against a weak notre dame defense stop actin like he was peyton manning or gino toretta in college
 
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no he doesnt that is wat next years preseason is for he dont need to play at all this year unless like tony said we are out of the playoffs otherwise he needs to sit and learn and people forget he was not even the best qb comin outta college he had one good game against a weak notre dame defense stop actin like he was peyton manning or gino toretta in college
one good game? ur right he wasnt no peyton manning or anything but he had a good season not just one good game, and yea i agree he should just watch and learn for a while unless we dont have a shot at the playoffs put him in like the broncos did cutler last season
 
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WAT WAS THEIR RECORD LAST YEAR HOW MANY GOOD TEAMS DID THEY BEAT ? 2 ARK AND TENN THEY LOST TO AUBURN HOW MANY TD'S DID HE HAVE IN THAT GAME? 0 AND FLORIDA HE HAD ONLY ONE