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Racism against Ethiopian Jews?
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Normally I would have torn into you for asking me a question like that, but not this time. It matters because it appears to be racism. The so-called "jews" in Israel are always professing to be peaceful, respectful etc, yet they treat the Afrikan Jews like excrement. The so-called "jews" in Israel claim the land is for "jews" yet they are treating those who they have accepted as "jews" as cattle. Also, when have I ever implied that I oppose the practice of Judaism by those who can't prove a relation to biblical Jews?
Keep it up....
Keep it up....
I believe that there is anti-black racism in Israel. I wouldn't doubt it for one second.
To play advocate, blood is not accepted at many blood banks by openly gay men, owing to their higher risk of infection. Are you opposed to this as well? If geographic profiling leads to a safer blood sample, as profiling by sexual orientation does, should it be outlawed?
Several times. You say that for example Khazar Jews are phonies, fake jews, etc. Which is why you use proper capitalization when referring to other people groups while calling Israelis "jews". [/quote]
To play advocate, blood is not accepted at many blood banks by openly gay men, owing to their higher risk of infection. Are you opposed to this as well? If geographic profiling leads to a safer blood sample, as profiling by sexual orientation does, should it be outlawed?
Several times. You say that for example Khazar Jews are phonies, fake jews, etc. Which is why you use proper capitalization when referring to other people groups while calling Israelis "jews". [/quote]
The blood being disposed of was the straw that broke the camels back b/c of the obvious symbolism, despite any medical claims...
Hopefully, people will continue to protest until the disparities are narrowed down, and the stringent rules of the orthodox rabbinic council will become more inclusive, but I have faith that eventually (within the future of our lifetimes) the ethiopians will accept/be accepted and assimilated equally into Israli society. It wasn't easy for the Mizrahi/Sephardic, but it happened...
Hopefully we will realize as Gershom Sizomu (Ugandan Jewish leader) stated "We are one people, but like Jacob's coat, we are many colors."
Hopefully, people will continue to protest until the disparities are narrowed down, and the stringent rules of the orthodox rabbinic council will become more inclusive, but I have faith that eventually (within the future of our lifetimes) the ethiopians will accept/be accepted and assimilated equally into Israli society. It wasn't easy for the Mizrahi/Sephardic, but it happened...
Hopefully we will realize as Gershom Sizomu (Ugandan Jewish leader) stated "We are one people, but like Jacob's coat, we are many colors."
every group of people in the world has racism...
in China B.C. times southern chinese we're thought to look "sneaky" because of their eyes being more rounded...
in Africa well, we already know about the racism there between indiginous peoples
my own race...Sephardic Jews, we're left to be in the ghettos of Israel, treated like third class citizens, untill we had a minor civil war with the Ashkenazi Jews in Israel...
so it's who holds power who discriminates over others...
not all Jews are in power...
just like not all Africans are in power...
but...i am one of those who can trace his ancestory back
i can trace my ancestory through western europe, to northern africa, back to spain, then back to the middle east again...
i'm a descendant of the last (jewish)royal family of Jerusalem
there is a jewish race, and a religion
they are not always hand in hand
in China B.C. times southern chinese we're thought to look "sneaky" because of their eyes being more rounded...
in Africa well, we already know about the racism there between indiginous peoples
my own race...Sephardic Jews, we're left to be in the ghettos of Israel, treated like third class citizens, untill we had a minor civil war with the Ashkenazi Jews in Israel...
so it's who holds power who discriminates over others...
not all Jews are in power...
just like not all Africans are in power...
but...i am one of those who can trace his ancestory back
i can trace my ancestory through western europe, to northern africa, back to spain, then back to the middle east again...
i'm a descendant of the last (jewish)royal family of Jerusalem
there is a jewish race, and a religion
they are not always hand in hand
Read the article again. Where in the article does it state the blood was tested? If the gay persons blood has been tested and nothing dangerous is found his blood should be allowed. However, as one of the protesters point out, many of the people probably haven't even been to Ethiopia.
Never, not once, now the gloves come off you lying paraplegic.
Yes, I say the Khazers are not real HEBREWS. This has NOTHING to do with Judaism. I always stated they CONVERTED TO Judaism, and if I said they practiced talmudism (I seriously don't recall that) that still does not mean I OPPOSE THE PRACTICE OF JUDAISM of those who cannot trace to biblical Jews.
Are you insane? Do me a favor, go through and find every post I ever made and count how many times I used proper capitalization for "america". You'll see that 9 out of 10 times I never capitalize it. What does that have to do with anything? Possibly nothing, just like your retarded ass claim that I oppose the practice of Judaism of those who do not trace to biblical Israel. The reason I type "jews" is because I don't believe the people are HEBREW (I've explained this many times now), and I often type "so-called jews" when referring to these people.
Again, when have I ever implied that I oppose the practice of Judaism by those who can't prove a relation to biblical Jews? YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT I OPPOSE THE PRACTICE OF A RELIGION BY THOSE WHO CAN'T PROVE RELATION TO BIBLICAL JEWS. When have I done this? I DON'T oppose the practice of their religion, dummy.
Never, not once, now the gloves come off you lying paraplegic.
Yes, I say the Khazers are not real HEBREWS. This has NOTHING to do with Judaism. I always stated they CONVERTED TO Judaism, and if I said they practiced talmudism (I seriously don't recall that) that still does not mean I OPPOSE THE PRACTICE OF JUDAISM of those who cannot trace to biblical Jews.
Are you insane? Do me a favor, go through and find every post I ever made and count how many times I used proper capitalization for "america". You'll see that 9 out of 10 times I never capitalize it. What does that have to do with anything? Possibly nothing, just like your retarded ass claim that I oppose the practice of Judaism of those who do not trace to biblical Israel. The reason I type "jews" is because I don't believe the people are HEBREW (I've explained this many times now), and I often type "so-called jews" when referring to these people.
Again, when have I ever implied that I oppose the practice of Judaism by those who can't prove a relation to biblical Jews? YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT I OPPOSE THE PRACTICE OF A RELIGION BY THOSE WHO CAN'T PROVE RELATION TO BIBLICAL JEWS. When have I done this? I DON'T oppose the practice of their religion, dummy.
So you call the vast majority of practicing jews "fake jews" yet you would not oppose their worship of judaeism, the religion of "Jewism". So if they are not Hebrew they are fake jews, but even if they are fake, they are not fake practicioners of Judaeism, which is the religion that defines one as a Jew. But wouldn't that disqualify them as fake jews?
No, I call the vast majority of people who claim to be HEBREW "fake jews" (MEANING THEY HAVE NO ANCESTRY LINKING THEM TO HEBREW MEN SUCH AS ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB). If they practice or not (some of them don't) doesn't matter.
A chinese man can convert to Judaism, I have no problem with that, but Judaism is not the religion of "jewism". If they follow judaism thats all good, but the problem rears its head when they claim to be the children of Abraham, claim they should have rights to the land based on ancestry, but have no proof to validate the claim and ostracize and demolish others in the process (acts of violence, discrimination etc.)
If they are not HEBREW (or have hebrew blood) they are not "jews" by blood/ancestry. They can be ALIENS FROM THE PLANET "GLOD", convert to judaism, and be considered a "jew" because they adhere to the religion and went through the proper conversion process (which may vary depending on the sect.)
I can argue they ARE fake practitioners (by comparing and contrasting talmudism and judaism), but that doesn't need to happen at this time.
Yes, Judaism (even some forms of messianic judaism) can be the religion which defines one as a jew. However, according to the so-called jews, you can be "jewish" and NEVER practice the religion.
No, not at all, because the article that has been posted (and previous posts) refer to "jews" as an ETHNIC/RACIAL/CULTURAL group. I've explained the origins of the word in past threads, and if you need more info hit Judaism 101 (link will be provided at the bottom of this page.) Here are excerpts from the site, bold emphasis is mine:
This is where the problem lies.
Here is another excerpt:
This also is where the problem lies.
More problems.
More problems.
I've talked about this in depth in the past.
Look at everything in bold and you'll start to understand the confusion about the terms.
http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm scroll down and read the "WHO IS A JEW" section, and you'll gain more insight.
A chinese man can convert to Judaism, I have no problem with that, but Judaism is not the religion of "jewism". If they follow judaism thats all good, but the problem rears its head when they claim to be the children of Abraham, claim they should have rights to the land based on ancestry, but have no proof to validate the claim and ostracize and demolish others in the process (acts of violence, discrimination etc.)
If they are not HEBREW (or have hebrew blood) they are not "jews" by blood/ancestry. They can be ALIENS FROM THE PLANET "GLOD", convert to judaism, and be considered a "jew" because they adhere to the religion and went through the proper conversion process (which may vary depending on the sect.)
I can argue they ARE fake practitioners (by comparing and contrasting talmudism and judaism), but that doesn't need to happen at this time.
Yes, Judaism (even some forms of messianic judaism) can be the religion which defines one as a jew. However, according to the so-called jews, you can be "jewish" and NEVER practice the religion.
No, not at all, because the article that has been posted (and previous posts) refer to "jews" as an ETHNIC/RACIAL/CULTURAL group. I've explained the origins of the word in past threads, and if you need more info hit Judaism 101 (link will be provided at the bottom of this page.) Here are excerpts from the site, bold emphasis is mine:
This is where the problem lies.
Here is another excerpt:
This also is where the problem lies.
More problems.
More problems.
I've talked about this in depth in the past.
Look at everything in bold and you'll start to understand the confusion about the terms.
http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm scroll down and read the "WHO IS A JEW" section, and you'll gain more insight.
You guys need to look up on Talmudic and Kabbalist Jews, compared to the Messianic Jews, and the Hebrew Jews, NOT ISRAELI JEWS. These Talmudic and Kabbalists are Zionist and a threat not only to the world, but to their own people. They have this Society called Jews for Judaism, any Jew that is Messianic is to be captured, and try to be reconverted into Judaism. They even torture some Messianic Jews, and some Jews don't even return. I would consider them Apostate Jews, because they outlaw Any Jews that aren't Orthodox according to their standards.
http://www.messianicjewish.net/aboutmj.shtml
This Helps Explain Messianic Judaism. Many Orthodox Jews will tell you, that Jews who have accepted Jesus as God and Messiah, aren't real Jews, they clear things up for you. Many of these Messianic Jews are from the Real Hebrew Tribes, such as the one Heresy Gave Ethiopian Jews, direct Descendants of Solomon.
Talmudic Jews, Orthodox Jews http://jewsforjudaism.com/web/mainpages/mission.html
Are a threat to messianic Jews, and even the World, many of them are Zionist.
They message is the help reconvert jews both Messianic and un-knowing Jews. The Problem with this is, many of these Talmudic Jews, or Jews for Judaism, attack Messianic Jews and they are militant. They capture some messianic Jews, and either try to convert them by force or sometimes you'll never see them again.
I'm Sloppy today, so forgive me. I'll add more to this, I'm just off my head today.
This Helps Explain Messianic Judaism. Many Orthodox Jews will tell you, that Jews who have accepted Jesus as God and Messiah, aren't real Jews, they clear things up for you. Many of these Messianic Jews are from the Real Hebrew Tribes, such as the one Heresy Gave Ethiopian Jews, direct Descendants of Solomon.
Talmudic Jews, Orthodox Jews http://jewsforjudaism.com/web/mainpages/mission.html
Are a threat to messianic Jews, and even the World, many of them are Zionist.
They message is the help reconvert jews both Messianic and un-knowing Jews. The Problem with this is, many of these Talmudic Jews, or Jews for Judaism, attack Messianic Jews and they are militant. They capture some messianic Jews, and either try to convert them by force or sometimes you'll never see them again.
I'm Sloppy today, so forgive me. I'll add more to this, I'm just off my head today.
Difference Between them, Messianic Jews I believe have a real bloodline from the 12 tribes. The Other Jewish sects, may also have Jewish blood, but they believe you are a Jew through Initiation. Messianic Jews believe you are Jew through Real Blood Which many of these Orthodox or Talmudic Jews aren't.