QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIANS OR THOSE WHO ADHERE TO THE BIBLE **ONLY**

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HERESY

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HERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. A YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE. YOU DONT HAVE TO GO IN DETAIL (YOU CAN IF YOU WANT).

1.DO YOU BELIEVE A PERSON CAN LOOSE SALVATION?

2.DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE RAPTURE?


THESE ARE TEACHINGS, DOCTRINES, VIEWS AND BELIFES OF CHRISTIAN SECTS. THEY ARE EXCLUSIVE TO THE CHRISTIAN FAITH SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF ONLY CHRISTIANS ANSWERED IT.

BUT...........IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER....FEEL FREE.....BUT IM REALLY TRYING TO GET A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU FOLLOW SOMETHING THATS A SPIN OFF OF CHRISTIANITY (MORMONISM,WITNESS,SCIENTOLOGY ETC ETC ETC) FEEL FREE TO ANSWER ALSO.......



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I adhere to the bible *only*, in regards to *only* speaking about Christianity.

But I do not adhere to the bible or Christianity *only* for spiritual wisdom...


*fact: anything which can be acquired, can be taken away.

Hence, *if* salvation is something one obtains, it is also something which one may loose.
 
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a) IF a name is signed in THEE Book of Life, I do not believe that that the salvation of that soul can be lost.

b) Yes, I believe in the rapture, just not in the same way most "Xtians" traditionally do ...
Most believe that god is coming back to gather his church in the and the souls of his saints that are dead in the rapture first, then coming back another time in the very end in the battle of armageddon.

I believe that the rapture is the Word of god's phrophesy fulfilling itself in the form of a nuclear bomb. His true followers, those who believe on his name, will meet him in the vaporous clouds that will be present in the remnants of the blast and be saved, while everyone else who hid and tried to escape his wrath will be left here for the tribulation period and except the mark in order to live.

The Messiah is the first and the Last, so therefore, He wont be making another cameo appearence until Thee Very End in the final war between the just and the unrighteous.
 
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FoeTwin said:
His true followers, those who believe on his name..
Res & Vyas: WHO is this Christain that you speak of? What was so significant about his life that makes you believe that he was the only "Christian" to ever live?
 
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The "Christian" I am speaking of is Jesus Christ.

Those who came after him (especially Paul) who label themselves "Christians" have completely missed the point of his appearance and have bastardized his message.

They have sinfully relegated Jesus to the role of their sin merchant, and diluted his pure teachings to the simpleton philosophy of "If you believe in Jesus you go to heaven". As if our belief in something affects the truthfulness of it. I can believe that 2+2=3, does my belief make it true? No. They ("Christians") sucker most cats into "believing" a false doctrine, and the sad thing is these people miss out on having actual knowledge of God. It is real easy to have "faith" and to "believe" some shit, but beliefs and faith is not knowledge.
 
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ReservoirDog said:
There was only one Christian and he died years ago, the rest are all wanna be's that can't think for themselves
If Christian means "Christ like" how can he there have obnly be one? The same one your supposed to be like is the Only Christian?


I guess that statement can be used for all Religions though, right?

ReservoirDog said:
There was only one Christian, Muslim, Budist, Juduist....................and the rest, and he died years ago, the rest are all wanna be's that can't think for themselves


@ Heresey,

1) Yes you can loose Salvation. Some think that once you are saved you will always be saved. That aint right. If so then why would we need to Study the word or Pray?
We could ask to be saved at age 10 and never look back the rest of our life. Commit Murder, Rape, Steal, Cheat, and lie but still be saved?

2) I believe in what some folks Call the rapture (though it is not in the Bible). It is the Bride of the Church going home. The Theif in the night Coming for his People.
 
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1) No

2) Yes

1) You cannot lose salvation once you've recieved the Holy Spirit because it will keep you from losing your ticket.
There's billions who "think" they are saved, then end up in hell and think they some how lost their salvation.
Point is, they never gained salvation in the first place....

2) Depends what you reffer to as the "rapture".
In Matthew, Jesus clearly says that he'll come like a thief at night and take his people before Judgement day.
I believe that's what people reffer to as the rapture.
Anything other than that is false....
 

HERESY

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these questions were for CHRISTIANS and those who adhere to the bible ONLY. not muslims,not taoist,not sunshine bandits,not ninjas,not bloods or crips. its directed at christians who hold the bible as the ONLY source (book of god) and have knowledge of the questions being asked. its ok to answer (feel free) but i wanted a CHRISTIAN perspective on CHRISTIAN dogma/doctrine/beliefs/theories.

someone mentioned sin merchent etc etc etc. i suggest you research torah and understand WHY bloodshed is required (for sins). get a concept of covenents and sacrifice. now we have several things to remember.

1.YESHUA himself said to believe on him and you will be saved.

2.YESHUA himself said that HIS blood is shed for the remission of sins.

so forget paul and other christians (by the way "christian" was actually a DEGRADING term/name/word).either yeshua was a NUTCASE or yeshua was TRUE.


we have many examples of him sating points 1 and 2.

anymore christians on the board?????

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1.Yes a person can lose their salvation, enough with this once saved always saved garbage.

2.And the rapture is false, Yeshua said in Mathew 24: 29-31 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION, will he gather his Elect. So get rid of this pre-trib la la land rapture crap.
 

HERESY

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@edj man i have been ALL over the bay area. my brother works a crazy shift (so i dont get to see him much), i have been working on my upstairs bath room (ripped up the floor,sink and toilet and placed down all new shit) and ive been helping out this one cat from l.a. with his music stuff. he's gonna pay me to go to la and mix his album also. that should be within the next couple of weeks.

if you have the adats we need to work something out. im not working with adats but its a gazillion studios out here that has them. if you have your shit on 2 adats i know of a spot we can go to for cheap (if you wanted to come out here or if you wanted to have me do it myself). if its 3 adats we can go to D.A.P

at this point its all on you but i dont know if i will be able to touchdown in your area. its a chance that i can (especially if he doesnt fake on the la shit).

in regards to the rapture. i have always told you that i never believed that.

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i been waitin for this time not waitin for no rapture/aint no such thing so when they round up and capture/all the jews and the christians and they chop off they heads/for not acceptin the mark you need to heed what i said the dead/rise first thats after armegeddon/pre trib is a lie god neva said it/not real he aint knowin if he comin or goin/runnin back and fourth to heaven im waitin but he aint showin~"SATANIC VERSES"-written by h performed by h for tip toe is back publishing ascap. from THE SINOGOGS OF GOG AND MAGOG