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this is kind of a good question cuz alot of people listen to 'horrorcore' rappers simply because the rapper's themselves are labeled horrorcore.
for example: if the beat aint right before anything, im not guna listen another second. i duno what it is but i can't get into horrorcore rappers outside the west coast (minus Doomsday and Flatlinerz.) everyone can rap about the same ol horrorcore contents such as rape, murder, and cannibalism but what matters is how they bring it. ADR, Malice, Mars, and Lynch are excellent with clever lines (especially Malice!) all of their beats are appealing, although i think Malice would sound tight over more DJ Mark 7 ADR-type beats.. i dunoooooo i think this isn't a bad question.
for example: if the beat aint right before anything, im not guna listen another second. i duno what it is but i can't get into horrorcore rappers outside the west coast (minus Doomsday and Flatlinerz.) everyone can rap about the same ol horrorcore contents such as rape, murder, and cannibalism but what matters is how they bring it. ADR, Malice, Mars, and Lynch are excellent with clever lines (especially Malice!) all of their beats are appealing, although i think Malice would sound tight over more DJ Mark 7 ADR-type beats.. i dunoooooo i think this isn't a bad question.
The reason I bring this up is because I went to wicked intent radio when KidCrusher was djing. I wanted to hear his unreleased track with Lo Key so he spun it for me. About two tracks later was another unreleased track that he hates with himself, Sicktanick, and Razakel.
I said that I hate Razakel and they were on that "OmGzz n00b LaWlz" shit.
Anyway, SKR sucks to me. Does anyone here like them? If so, please justify this.
I said that I hate Razakel and they were on that "OmGzz n00b LaWlz" shit.
Anyway, SKR sucks to me. Does anyone here like them? If so, please justify this.
I'm sure he's a cool dude. I've talked to him on Killmusick and he sounds like a down to earth guy. I'm not hating on the guy or knocking the hustle cause it looks like his fanbase is big and growing. I even like a few of his songs. Dead to the World is my ringtone (99% because of the beat). I brought them up as an example beacuse not only are they not skilled rappers, a lot of their music sounds terrible.
Mars, what do you think about these dudes that can't rap for shit and call themselves horrorcore?
Grewsum, if you read this, what do you think?
Mars, what do you think about these dudes that can't rap for shit and call themselves horrorcore?
Grewsum, if you read this, what do you think?
"No doubt these are fine markets, but I have a feeling they are not avid for stories full of flogging, humping, goring and soul-rot." - Hunter S. Thompson
Don't ask what makes a good horrorcore rapper - ask what makes a good musician. Any idiot can write horrorcore lyrics.
666 I FUCK CHICKS WITH UPSIDE DOWN CROSSES INSTEAD OF DICKS AND SLIT MY WRISTS WHEN I WIPE MY ASS SO MY SHIT STAYS SICK
Anybody who spends enough time at writing and learning song structure/how to read BPM's/how to keep tempo can become a rapper, but it takes someone truly skilled to become a musician. For instance, take Biggie Smalls and Lil Wayne - it isn't always what they say, it's their cadence (how they say it). It's the energy to move people when they listen to your music. It's all the extra shit on top of sixteen bars and a hook. No matter if those sixteen bars are about spinner rims and hoes or slaughterhouses and molestation.
Don't ask what makes a good horrorcore rapper - ask what makes a good musician. Any idiot can write horrorcore lyrics.
666 I FUCK CHICKS WITH UPSIDE DOWN CROSSES INSTEAD OF DICKS AND SLIT MY WRISTS WHEN I WIPE MY ASS SO MY SHIT STAYS SICK
Anybody who spends enough time at writing and learning song structure/how to read BPM's/how to keep tempo can become a rapper, but it takes someone truly skilled to become a musician. For instance, take Biggie Smalls and Lil Wayne - it isn't always what they say, it's their cadence (how they say it). It's the energy to move people when they listen to your music. It's all the extra shit on top of sixteen bars and a hook. No matter if those sixteen bars are about spinner rims and hoes or slaughterhouses and molestation.
I think dudes like Torchur, and other horrorcore rappers that suck dick at rapping should never see the light of day until they have had years of making music under their belt to develop their skill. Now a days everyone wants to be a rapper, and wants a deal right away. Wants fans right away. Wants to press an album right away. To do shows right away. Its those mothafuckas that put their shit out there, and a skeptical potential fan whos heard about horrorcore picks them up instead of a good artist or group and ruins the entire concept of Horrorcore for them. I wish people would listen to the Halfbreed's, and the King Gordys, and the Q Strange's first.
I think to be a successful horrorcore artist you need to have a marketable image, quality production, quality artwork, a flow that stands out, a voice that stands out, be able to travel to outside markets, and have the knowlage to market yourself and conduct real business.
Everyone always asks me, why are you not always wicked in your music. How come you never use dark ass beats. Because regular mothafuckas don't want to hear that shit. Horrorcore fans come for the lyrics. Rap fans come for the beats. Juggalos come for the image, and you can gain anyone as a fan as long as the hook is solid. I work with artists and producers outside my genre. Like for instance I've been working for Mike Marshall (Luniz - I got 5 On It, Timex Social Club - Rumors, Andre Nickatina - He Said She Said, E-40 and Too $hort - Thats My One) on hooks. He is one of, if not THE dopest R&B singers in the Bay Area. Who says he can't sing some crazy horrorcore shit? Horrorcore artists who have bigger names think bigger than the rest. They expand more outside of JUST horrorcore but rep the genre to the fullest and never stray too far away from their content. Image has a lot to do with it too. Would you want to listen to some nerdy ass wimp talking about shit he isnt capable of in real life, or somebody who looks, walks, talks and acts like they are? Somebody who looks like a rapper, or somebody who looks like a square? Theatrics have a lot to do with your success as a horrorcore artist on stage too. But, if it all comes down to your music just plain sucks, none of the other shit matters. You have to have the full package to be a somebody, miss one of the aspects I mentioned above, in my opinion, you wont go far.
I'm tired of some of these weak ass mothafuckas who have the name Skitzo, Psycho, or any of that old played out bullshit and watering down the game with bullshit ass music. I want people to classify horrorcore and have ICP, Twiztid, The ROC, Halfbreed, House Of Krazees, Esham, Insane Poetry, Brotha Lynch Hung, Ganxsta NIP, Project Deadman, Doomsday Productions, Flatlinerz, Gravediggaz, KGP, Triple 6, King Gordy, Q Strange, Lokey mentioned before many others. You gotta start somewhere. We all did. But I hate hearing about somebody finding some wack ass group's song and have that as their lasting impression of what horrorcore is by mistake.
I think to be a successful horrorcore artist you need to have a marketable image, quality production, quality artwork, a flow that stands out, a voice that stands out, be able to travel to outside markets, and have the knowlage to market yourself and conduct real business.
Everyone always asks me, why are you not always wicked in your music. How come you never use dark ass beats. Because regular mothafuckas don't want to hear that shit. Horrorcore fans come for the lyrics. Rap fans come for the beats. Juggalos come for the image, and you can gain anyone as a fan as long as the hook is solid. I work with artists and producers outside my genre. Like for instance I've been working for Mike Marshall (Luniz - I got 5 On It, Timex Social Club - Rumors, Andre Nickatina - He Said She Said, E-40 and Too $hort - Thats My One) on hooks. He is one of, if not THE dopest R&B singers in the Bay Area. Who says he can't sing some crazy horrorcore shit? Horrorcore artists who have bigger names think bigger than the rest. They expand more outside of JUST horrorcore but rep the genre to the fullest and never stray too far away from their content. Image has a lot to do with it too. Would you want to listen to some nerdy ass wimp talking about shit he isnt capable of in real life, or somebody who looks, walks, talks and acts like they are? Somebody who looks like a rapper, or somebody who looks like a square? Theatrics have a lot to do with your success as a horrorcore artist on stage too. But, if it all comes down to your music just plain sucks, none of the other shit matters. You have to have the full package to be a somebody, miss one of the aspects I mentioned above, in my opinion, you wont go far.
I'm tired of some of these weak ass mothafuckas who have the name Skitzo, Psycho, or any of that old played out bullshit and watering down the game with bullshit ass music. I want people to classify horrorcore and have ICP, Twiztid, The ROC, Halfbreed, House Of Krazees, Esham, Insane Poetry, Brotha Lynch Hung, Ganxsta NIP, Project Deadman, Doomsday Productions, Flatlinerz, Gravediggaz, KGP, Triple 6, King Gordy, Q Strange, Lokey mentioned before many others. You gotta start somewhere. We all did. But I hate hearing about somebody finding some wack ass group's song and have that as their lasting impression of what horrorcore is by mistake.
I agree with the above, especially the image part. Not only looking the part, but sounding the part. You don't have to REALLY KILL PEOPLE to be a convincing horrorcore rapper, but you have to sound confident and like you know what you're talking about, and if you say you're going to do some sick shit to someone, it shouldn't be too far outside of your personality. Just like you don't want to hear some pimply faced dude with no game rap about all the hoes he's got.
People don't like jesus because he was a smart guy - they like the image of the guy dying for their sins, the guy nailed to the board. That image has lasted over 2,000 years.
People don't like jesus because he was a smart guy - they like the image of the guy dying for their sins, the guy nailed to the board. That image has lasted over 2,000 years.
I remember Torchur always used to mass-AIM-message everybody, begging them to buy his album. (I remember somebody from Cashroll Criminals stole this idea, which always struck me as really weird. It's like basing your rap career after Lil Shawn or MC Snow.) His feelings would get really hurt if you criticized him or his music in any way. Maybe if he learned to take peoples' constructive criticisms, he wouldn't still be the butt of many jokes and he might have made something of himself on the mic. Then again, he couldn't hit a beat if he was in a boxing match with one, so things probably worked out as they should.
Now that I think about it, didn't somebody clown the FUCK out of Dubb on the original mad insanity board? I vaguely remember something like that, Mars is probably the only one other than me who would recall. I remember somebody getting his phone number and harassing the shit out of him, so he was kind of the original Stalker Victim.
I have an old .gif saved somewhere that somebody made a long time ago that was called WICKED DUB GOES TO LU CIPHA'S HOUSE that I'm trying so hard to find because it would make this thread. If I find it I will contribute it immediately.
Now that I think about it, didn't somebody clown the FUCK out of Dubb on the original mad insanity board? I vaguely remember something like that, Mars is probably the only one other than me who would recall. I remember somebody getting his phone number and harassing the shit out of him, so he was kind of the original Stalker Victim.
I have an old .gif saved somewhere that somebody made a long time ago that was called WICKED DUB GOES TO LU CIPHA'S HOUSE that I'm trying so hard to find because it would make this thread. If I find it I will contribute it immediately.