Question to the rappers out there

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Nov 14, 2002
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Can someone explain to me how I'm supposed to get my fuckin' rhymes to fit into 16 bars of music and make it sound like I have a fuckin' clue what I'm doing? I understand the formula and the mathmatics behind music, but this concept seems to escape me. I can rap fairly well, and can write for days, but it's all bullshit if it's just freeform rambling.

And just so you know, I'm specifically asking about verses. The chorus part is easy.
 
Aug 21, 2002
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Ha, ha... ROOKIE!!!

It really depends on the speed of the beat and how innovative you are when the beat drops or pitch changes and shit. Sometimes people make beats that arent even in 16 bar formats. I know a dude that couldn't make a beat correct to save his life. He makes some tight ones but you'd be spitting 7 then 21 then 13 then 8 bars and looking like a damned fool out there. But hopefully Sinista can walk you through it... Ha, ha....


:cracking up:
 
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to have a kick-ass flow you gotta be classically trained.
learn how to write european classical counterpoint in the style of JS Bach. Then study some of the later 20th centure composers like Sibelius and Paul McCartney and you'll start to understand
 
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I don't know if that was sarcasm or not, but you're too late. I've been playing guitar for years and have studied the classical music of Metallica...
 
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learn your pattern first and foremost....................then u can learn to manuliplate it............rapping ain;t that hard.............it's actually getting people to want to hear it is the hard part
 
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Hell yeah bitch! Tech comes out of my cd player, Motley Crue goes in... Crue comes out, DMX goes in.. DMX out, some random hardcore music goes in.

I just love sick music, especially 80's power ballad shit. Poison, Def Leppard, Skid Row, Warrant.... lol. They're so bad but I love that music.
 
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I grew up in the 80's with an older brother who was a Guns/Crue/Poison etc. fan, so since I've been a kid I've been listening to that shit. You can say I became a rap fan once Korn turned soft on "Follow the Leader". They were the only rock I was really into and well.... enter rap. ICP is what really got me into rap when I was 14ish so you can imagine the span of shit I listen to. In my CD collection I've got anything from trance, to hardcore to jazz... I actually own a Garth Brooks album, as well as Spice Girls albums (yes.... more than one). You can make fun of me if you like, but personally I think it makes me all the more cooler, and proves that my love for Tech isn't dick ridin' like I was Lejo_Broke.

I've never been the type of kat that likes this or that... I just like what I think is good and fuck anyone who's got a problem with that.

Unfortunately, that attitude doesn't leave much room for friends, but plenty of room for useless pride. LoL.
 
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no your not the only one. Growing up my moms listened to a new type of music everyear from talk radio to country to old motown to classical to old negro spritials so yes i was not black enough for my peers and to weird for everybody else good music is good music nomater what the color or what type of music. People who only listen to one kind of music are just scared of knowing anything else. The the black kid who just "keeps it real" or the white kids who knows street life from videos. Grew up both places and really cant relate to either. And you do not have to be classically trained to write raps. Tech dident learn to write in bars till late 93. if you can keep a beat and stay on it you can rap. Dident say youd be any good but you can still rap.
 
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hey you guys do get that my whole "classically" trained shit was pure bullshit??

and what comes to glam rock... i'd like to quote my man Dave Mustaine
"to me glam stands for... you know, GAY L.A. MUSIC"
 
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If Dave Mustaine meant anything, he would be in a band called "Metallica", who while might not agree with some of Axl Roses politics and actions, obviously enjoyed their music enough to tour with them, and open for them.

Besides, Dave Mustaine isn't exactly a mans man.