Presidential Personalities

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Mar 18, 2003
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Does it matter to any of you what type of personality the president has? In one of my classes at school, my teacher was talking about how Howard Dean was a favorite going into race for the democratic candidate, even after the first state which he had won. But once he let off that "awful" scream, fully of energy and passion, the tables turned, and he lost nearly every state thereafter. My teacher said that was, in her mind, the turning point for his campaign. While I can't outright agree with this, I just can not help but notice that it is of great coincidence that he started losing the peoples support proceeding this outburst. This caught my attention because in my eyes, this is the type of president that we need, a real human being; one who doesn't just sit at a podium and read off a monitor during the entire speech process.

The people in this country seem to be bothered by an ordinary citizen sitting in office. They *need* a man always wearing a nice suit, with light colored skin, who is as dull as a fence post, to stand there and tell them *exactly* what they want to hear. He fucks up, then we elect the next brain dead asshole to continue the last president's agenda. But when a man comes up and points out this countries flaws, and shows obvious disaproval for the way things have operated through expression, people look at the man and think he is unfit for office, which might have something to do with the redundancy of idiots sleeping in the whitehouse.

What if a presidential candidate cussed on television.
What if he wore shorts to a speech.
What if he wore an earing, had a mustache.
What if he laughed on stage, told a joke... do we scratch his name off the list?

I feel like I have to drink three cups of coffee and slam crank in my neck just to watch John Kerry give a speech.

If I were president, I would walk up to the podium in a wifebeater picking the back crease of my boxers out from between my ass. I would cuss every other word and flip off anyone who asked the wrong question. I would be piss drunk during my state of the union speech and... okay maybe I'm going a little far, but I think I got my point across.

The thing that impressed me the most about Dean is when he finished up a speech, went down into the crowd to greet everyone, and someone asked him a question; I don't remember what it was, but on camera, he told the guy "I don't know..". He didn't know the answer to the guys question, so thats what he told him. Unbelievable.



 
Jan 25, 2003
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Dean actually was a distant third in the rankings before he let out the scream. The scream was all the media (both sides) needed to bury him.

Dr. Dean's anti-war ravings would have killed him in the shotgun carrying states.
 
May 27, 2002
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How is me stating the fact that Dean didn't win a state in the primaries "downing" him? I'm just trying to clear up the record (Nitro talking about Dean won a state)

Just like me acknowledging that Kerry DID win most of them isn't "boosting" him. It's merely pointing out a truth.

P.S. I agree with Kerry's immigration policy WAY more than Bush's.
 
Dec 25, 2003
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Its true he was 3rd in OH or whatever the first state was...but the scream really did him in. And Rippa all I'm alluding to is the "great surprise" at you being quick to point out that Dean did not win.
 

Hatch

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THA RIPPA said:
What state did Dean win? He made that speech after getting his ass handed to him after the first state.
he won NO states prior to the speech. actually i think it costed him major in Iowa where had a big lead until the speech.

i think that he did go on to win some other state (Wahington State?) later on.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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THA RIPPA said:
Thats what I thought. Dean aint win no state. Get yo mind right.
THA RIPPA said:
I'm just trying to clear up the record (Nitro talking about Dean won a state)
Set my mind right then playa, who won Vermont?

Hatch said:
he won NO states prior to the speech. actually i think it costed him major in Iowa where had a big lead until the speech.
That's what I'm getting at. And it wasn't just that single speech, it was the way he presented himself in general. Before the first state was won, Howard Dean was a favorite, and people were suprised to see Kerry start winning, let alone virtually every state thereafter. His name in itself was a heavy favorite until the media got involved.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
In one of my classes at school, my teacher was talking about how Howard Dean was a favorite going into race for the democratic candidate, even after the first state which he had won. But once he let off that "awful" scream, fully of energy and passion, the tables turned, and he lost nearly every state thereafter. My teacher said that was, in her mind, the turning point for his campaign. ]
You make it sound like he was doing great and he won states before he let off the scream. This obviously isnt the case.

And he didnt win a state until Kerry had already pounded his ass like Bubba in the pen.
 
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THA RIPPA said:
You make it sound like he was doing great and he won states before he let off the scream. This obviously isnt the case.
The only error I made was saying "even after the first state which he had won" which is small in size compared to your belligerent fuck up. I didn't make it sound like he won "states", I said he was a favorite "going into the race", which obviously means before any state had been won.

THA RIPPA said:
And he didnt win a state until Kerry had already pounded his ass like Bubba in the pen.
So be it, but you still fucked up, and reasoning like this isn't going to change that. You said it not once, but twice that Howard Dean did not win any states. You were wrong.
 
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You also said "even after the first state which he had won". He was a GONER even by the time he finally picked up that state. You made it sound like he was a favorite going into the race (granted, true), and that he had won a state before the scream.

EDIT: we can drop this. we both made misstatements. You and me debating semantics is like O'Reilly and Savage arguing. no points are being made.