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May 19, 2005
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Do you think your political beliefs stem from past or present politicians,or past or present political achievements. Cause i was havin a talk with a homie and the word conservative and republican came into play, now because of the current situation in america when a big amount of people hear the word republican they start thinkin about the shit thats goin down right now, and want notihng to do with anyting afiliated republican or conservative,then theres politicians that tarnish certain broad political labels,kinda like political racisms.You got some one that really hates bush and everythign hes doin chances are he aint even gonna give the slightest attention to another republican or conservative,and prob goes the same way with conservatives not ever wanting to hear a word come out of any democrat, so it got me thinkin and not just on democrats or repulicans, people on this site got original and unique political belief,commies socios,these seem to flourish in un-american places. im wonderin if its from present or past representation of your afiliation or from certain individuals that have helped this world
 
Jan 9, 2004
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Its a combination of all that for me. As a kid, I remember my parents taking me to the grape strikes with the UFW in the fields of central Cali. I remember my puppy love with MEChA in Jr. high/Highschool, then my naive communist/socialist beliefs for the 1st half of college, then scrapping it all after the reds I associated with were the worst backstabbers ever encountered. Then about the second half of college, starting to analyze the people I was with as opposed to the people they were against. Throughout this was my love of reading, especially history and poli-sci books.

That's my experience, that's why I dont label myself on thing or another and I dont trust any politician or race-rhetoric mongerer.
 
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i feel that man,like politics is suposed to be either black or white. its greyer then a mutha fucker.,seems like parents have a huge part in how you interpret politics at a young age,show you who you can trust and cant trust...atleast through there eyes
 
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No doubt. But once you get older and experience things first hand, you make your own choices. Like speaking out on getting taxed on your paycheck to pay for welfare hoodrats while big corporations are getting tax breaks. The assault is all around.
 
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For me its things I have been through, some family influences, people that I have met along the way and some girlfriends I have had.
 
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I used to be a major conservative. I used to listen to Michael Savage and talk about the evils of affirmative action, etc. Then I become fairly liberal, but not socialist or very far left just a hardcore democrat. Then I swang sort of back towards conservatism. I'm still a registered green party member, still liberal as fuck, but certain things I've grown to dislike.

I am in line with socialist government policies, but I don't believe America or any nation in the world is mentally and epistemologically ready for any form of Communism (or will ever be), or that any form of communism will work unless under the extreme duress of mortal poverty.

I believe legalizing weed will lead to a generation of kids with stunted brain development, content to watch TV for the rest of their lives, working at Taco Bell, while Japan and China surpass us in Science, Math, etc., a feat they are already handily accomplishing.

I am all for improved diplomatic relations, the axe of G Dubb, etc., but there is also a lose-lose element in American diplomacy where America loses simply for being America, and that won't subside no matter how many peace treaties we sign or countries we withdraw our military from.

That said, I don't support the Iraq war, or the Afghanistan war, or Bush's aggressive war on terror, simply because it won't work, and also because the threat we face is not that grave, and even so our force has not been directed at the correct targets.

I believe corporate welfare moms are a huge issue, especially when so many Americans are poor. If we did pull a libby left 90% tax on businesses and corporations, however, and removed all the business incentives from our system, another America would spring up somewhere else....possibly China....causing further poverty and disenfranchisement.

I think many of us have roots in certain forms of idealized change that are largly theorycraft, based on an ethereal world and situation, unachievable in practice.

That said, I see your point on the inability of those on one side to listen to another. However, I don't believe partisanship is the bane of our system or the largest problem we face. The largest problem we face is America's gross stupidity. People always stress listening to and talking to each other instead of drawing divisions, but what is the relevent content of the dialogue? Most americans are simply miseducated, not well read, and not prone to real discovery or challenge of assumptions.

It is to a degree in our country unforseen in many other places in the world. Europeans and Asians involved in politics tend to be a bit more well read, due largely to alot less TV watching. Our greatest enemy in America is not partisanship but reality shows, Britney and Kevin, MTV, CSI, the Fox News Channel, and the other prattling stupidity distribution centers we feed on daily.