Politically Incorrect trancript w/ Boots from The Coup

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i just wanna know some of your thoughts on Boots Rileys beliefs........hes an interesting dude.........

Guests on the program included: Harland Williams, Boots Riley, Erin Shannon & Eric Braeden

Panel Discussion
Bill: Good evening. Welcome to "Politically Incorrect." Let me introduce you to our panel. Over here, Mr. Eric Braeden. He is, of course, on the "Young and the Restless" on CBS. Too early for me. Some people, I'm too late for them. You're too early for me. And you've won an Emmy for that. And you're my friend. Good to have you here. Erin Shannon, thank you for coming back. You're a conservative activist and the public relations director for the building industry association of Washington State. That's timber?

Erin: Home building.

Bill: Home building.

[ Bill laughs ]

Something to do with wood. All right. Boots Riley, your new record "The Coup" --

Boots: Yep.

Bill: Okay, is that your group?

Boots: The group is The Coup.

Bill: The record's called "Party Music." I know there was another cover for it which we can't show. But I'll tell 'em about it later.

Boots: Don't be scared.

Bill: I'm not -- I'm not scared.

Boots: All right.

Bill: Honey, if I were scared I wouldn't be in all this [ bleep ].

[ Laughter ]

Okay.
Harland Williams -- I love you. And that's all. No, you're a very funny comedian and actor. And I'm glad you're back with us.
Please give a hand to this panel.

[ Cheers and applause ]

And --

[ Applause ]

Okay. Now, this is Dick Cheney's birthday today. He's 61 years young. And they gave him breakfast in bed with Enron today.

[ Laughter ]

He's in a lot of trouble. It was not such a good birthday, because the General Services Administration, which is the arm that would sue -- and is suing --

[ Bill laughs ]

-- The Vice President -- to release the records of what he was talking about with energy executives, like Enron, who have met with him many times. And lots of people say, "Well, our policy is being influenced by these large, corporate donors who meet behind closed doors with Vice President Cheney's task force." If he has nothing to hide, why doesn't he say who he met with and what they were talking about, instead of just getting in the Bronco and leaving?

[ Light laughter ]

Uh --

[ Laughter ]

Oh, I forgot O.J. was innocent.

[ Laughter ]

I always forget that.
But he claims that the White House needs to be able to talk to experts in confidence. Except that, you know, this ain't the boardroom, Dick.
Your business is our business. Ain't that the truth?

Eric: He is a public-elected official, sits in a public house, and, therefore, the business that it is conducted in that house is -- should be accessible to the public.

Boots: And you know what they wanna hide is the fact that these corporations are really the ones that make public policy. We don't really vote for politicians.
We vote for corporate puppets. And not only were they makin' energy policy up in there --

[ Applause ]

--
They were dictating it to him. And what other policies do these corporations help make? I wanna know who told them to cut welfare reform. Which corporations were in the boardroom meeting with Bill Clinton on that? I wanna know -- I wanna know, really, if they have something to do about this war. Because we know that the State Department was working with Enron. How do we know that -- and I'm not gonna say how we know -- I know that the bombing that's going on in Afghanistan is not to fight terrorism. It's to create little states, little Enron states, little Exxon states all throughout the Middle East, and little Chiquita Banana Republics.

[ Laughter ]

Eric: Now, Boots -- Boots, Boots, Boots.

Erin: But according to the law -- legally, he does not have to produce this information.

Bill: Yes.

Erin: It's protected under executive privilege. And as the largest energy trading company in the world --

Bill: Well, it's not. First of all, executive privilege has to do with national security.

Eric: Precisely.

Bill: Not about who paid for your negative ads.

Boots: And this is the only administration --

[ Talking over each other ]

Erin: It has to do with the confidentiality of who the President and the executive Vice President can meet with, who they can talk to --

[ Talking over each other ]

Boots: We wanna keep it confidential that they get paid off. We wanna keep it confidential that they get paid off by these corporations, and that they're lying to the public, saying that we're voting for people to run the government. But we're really not voting for people to run the government. We're voting for people to get ran by the corporations.

[ Applause ]

[ Talking over each other ]

Erin: At one time they were the largest energy trading company in the world. They would have been remiss not to meet with Enron when you're formulating a national energy policy.

Bill: That's amazing to me that people say that. That they had to listen to the experts. In other words, you got to bring the fox right into the henhouse to find out how to kill the chickens. Don't we have an entire energy department? Shouldn't they also be experts on what goes on with energy? Why do we need the people whose self-interest it is?

Harland: Well, listen, Bill, if we can spend a year -- you know, we spent a year watching Clinton on video talkin' about his little "How do you do, hello, how are you?" with Monica -- which is useless information to us all -- I'm sure we can hear what goes on in a boardroom. You know? I mean, come on.

[ Applause ]

Boots: And not only are they listening to these corporations, they're owned by these corporations. The people in the cabinet are on the payroll for Enron. The head of the Republican National Committee collects a seven-figure salary from Enron and lobbies for 'em, you know?

Bill: Yes.

Boots: And they fire people on the cabinet. They say this person is not working with them --

Eric: Boots, I agree with some of what you've said.

[ Talking over each other ]

Bill: I don't think Enron's trying to take over Afghanistan.

Eric: Well, precisely.

Bill: They have enough troubles.

[ Laughter ]

Boots: Okay, not only them --

Eric: You're confused that we're trying to establish Banana Republics in Afghanistan --

Boots: No.

Eric: That's a far-fetched conclusion, you know.

[ Talking over each other ]

Boots: Let's talk about facts.

[ Talking over each other ]

Harland: No, no. Let's talk about this hair, man. That's what I wanna talk about.

[ Laughter ]

[ Applause ]

Boots: Oh, let's start with the handlebar moustache.

Bill: All right, wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa.

[ Talking over each other ]

Bill: Whoa, whoa! Would you please --

Erin: He's met with representatives of alternative -- energy alternatives, alternatives to --

Bill: Yeah, but these people --

Erin: Energy, as I stumble.

Bill: Right. I mean, you can't quite even get it out without laughing.

[ Laughter ]

Yes, he's met with environmentalists, too. And somehow, their wishes don't quite make it into the policy.

Erin: What wishes of Enron's made it into the National Energy project?

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: It is known that Enron has supported the Bush family years.

Erin: It's known that Enron supported Clinton for years! He gave more money to Clinton and the Democrats than he's given to Bush!

Eric: That's nonsense. 75% of the monies given by Enron have gone to the Republican Party, 25% to the Democratic Party.

Bill: Yes, and it is true --

Eric: Of course it's true.
 
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Bill: -- Give to both parties because that is how corrupt our system is. You have to hedge your bets, because the other guy might win, and you want to have a bribe down on them, too. But they did give more to the Republicans, because, you know, if you wanna get laid you go out with the slutty girl first.

[ Laughter ]

[ Cheers and applause ]

Erin: Ken Lay stayed at the White House 11 times.

[ Applause ]

Bill: Okay, go ahead.

Erin: Kenneth Lay stayed at the White House 11 times while Bill Clinton was President. He was a major donor to Bill Clinton. They were major donors to the DNC.

Bill: No, I think Bill Clinton got laid 11 times at the White House.

[ Laughter ]

Erin: No doubt of that. No with Hillary, though.

Harland: Look Bill. On the flip side of this, though, man, I mean a lot of people got wiped out at Enron. A lot of people lost their life savings. And in a situation like that where people got hurt, you know, maybe we do have to open up the doors and see what the hell went down, you know?

Erin: But what they want to look at has nothing to do with that. That needs to be investigated. I mean, that makes you lose your faith in free market systems, what happened at Enron. That is true.

Harland: I shop at Kmart, baby, so it doesn't affect me.

Erin: But what they wanna see --

[ Laughter ]

Henry Waxman was acting for this information well before Enron fell. Earlier this summer he was trying to get this -- as soon as it became knowledge that Dick Cheney met with executives from Enron, and other special interest officials -- as soon as that became public knowledge that he met with them and that their discussions may have played a part in the formulation of the National Energy --

Bill: Policy.

Erin: Policy. Thank you.

Harland: Where did you hear that?! That's a crock. Where did you hear that! That is the biggest load I've ever heard in my life! Come on, buddy, back me up. Come on!

[ Laughter ]

Come on, buddy, come on. Go! Go!

Boots: Check this out.

[ Applause ]

What she's saying is true, but it don't got nothin' to do --

Harland : Here we go.

Boots : -- it don't got nothin' to do with anything. So what if they wanted that information? The memo that Enron --

Erin: It has nothing to do with Enron falling and people losing their life savings.

Boots: Hey, hold up.

Bill: No, no.

Boots: The memo that Kenneth Lay gave to Bush and them is exactly the federal --

[ Bill laughing ]

[ Laughter ]

-- Is exactly the energy policy that was laid out. You know? That's exactly the energy policy. So you can't say that Enron didn't dictate that.

Erin: That's not true.

Harland: Dictate that.

Bill: Yeah.

Erin: There were nine proposals in Enron --

[ Laughter ]

There were nine things Enron was asking for, seven of which --

Bill: We will be back to Waylon Flowers and Momma in a second. We have to take a break.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Bill: Happy birthday today to Mr. Dick Cheney. Vice President Cheney is 61 years old today. He had a nice party. Karl Rove brought the food. Dick Armey brought the liquor. And, of course, Enron brought the confetti.

[ Laughter ]

Bill: Well, Mike Tyson today was denied his Nevada boxing license to fight Lennox Lewis, who confirmed that during the fight that broke out during last week's news conference that Tyson did it again. He bit. He's a biter.

[ Laughter ]

Tyson tried to put a good spin on this for the commission with a shout out to the kids. He said, "Kids, always brush between fighters."

[ Laughter ]

[ Cheers and applause ]

All right. There was a story in the paper today that I really want to talk about. There's a woman in Florida. Her name's Sultaana Freeman. She is a Muslim woman.
She wears a veil. She covers her face. She was having her driver's license photo taken, and she would not take off the veil. And she is suing, saying -- her quote was, "I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males." But she wants to drive and have a driver's license.

Eric: God bless this Sultaana. But there's a separation of church and state in America. And if the state asks you to take your veil off to be photographed, then you bloody well do that.

Harland: Yeah, you can't hide behind religion, man. That's like -- Hey, I'm an atheist. I don't believe in anything. So, technically, I don't have to be here. So just give me a blank driver's license. You know what I'm saying?

[ Laughter and applause ]

Bill: Right.

Boots: What you're not mentioning, though, that should be said -- what you're not mentioning, though, that should be said, before September 11th, she was given two driver's licenses wearing her veil. And it wasn't a problem. But now it only became a problem because of who she is. I bet you -- you know --

Harland: Yeah, but time's are different, dude. We have to. We have to.

[ Talking over each other ]

Boots: What I'm saying is that, now we're getting all these laws or all of these practices that are being enforced because of September 11th that don't have anything to do with the law. Because --

Bill: Well, first of all -- First of all, let's have this premise then. They should have made her take the veil off for those other photos, okay?

Erin: Absolutely.

Bill: Let's forget September 11th. Let's just say this is a person living in America who wants a photo of herself for her driver's -- she wants to drive.
But she will not bend that much. She will come to the melting pot but not melt a little bit. She wants to keep this eighth century practice, okay? You know what? Why don't we -- what?

Harland: You can't do it, because it's like -- you know, if you do it for driver's license, you have to do it for everything. Like sheiks carry a ceremonial dagger.

Bill: Right.

Harland: How do they go through -- onto the airplanes, you know? Are we gonna let that happen because that's part of their religion? You know --

Boots: I think that this is just a beginning of part of it. Because, at the same time that they're doing this -- saying it's for security reasons or whatever -- in New York, they're not gonna let protesters wear masks. And the reason that they wear masks is because they're scared to death of the police out there. They're scared that they're gonna get a visit in the middle of the night, you know? Even though this is supposed to be the land of the free --

Eric: But --

Boots: You'll get your pictures taken and they'll surveil you, things like that. People need to wear masks to protect themselves from the police. And they're making them not wear masks --

Eric: But you're making -- but you're making enormous jumps now. You're making enormous jumps now.

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: One is to try to get a driver's license from the state.

Boots: That needs brought up, right?

Eric: The greatness of this country -- the greatness of this country is based on the separation of church and state. That is what makes this country great. You don't impose your religious views on state government. You do not do that in this country.

Boots: We don't do that? We don't do that?

Eric: We don't want to do that. No, we don't want to do that!

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: And that doesn't only apply to Muslims.

Erin: It's a privilege, not a right.

Boots: Right.

Erin: And you're not entitled. You're not born with the right to drive.

Harland: You don't walk into a church and tell everyone, you know, to stick a loaf of garlic bread to their head and say this is my way, man, you know?

[ Light laughter ]

Boots: What I'm saying is that this -- this issue is really trivial. But I'm bringing up the point --

Bill: It's not trivial.

Boots: What I'm bringing up --

Bill: It's not trivial. Because --

Boots: -- Gets her license or not, whatever --

[ Light laughter ]

Bill: But what --

Boots: Whether she gets a license or not, whatever, the point is that they're bringing --

Bill: It's not trivial, because it gets to -- it gets to something very important.

[ Talking over each other ]

Boots: -- Wear masks or --

Bill: I'll tell you why it's not trivial if you'll shut up for one second.

[ Light laughter ]

Boots: One second's up.
 
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Bill: There is a clash -- President Bush would have us believe there is not a clash of civilizations going on here. But this, to me, is a clash of civilizations. And one that I don't think we should have to shrink from. I don't think we should have to always make all the concessions here.

Eric: I agree with you. It's not even a clash. I agree with you.

Harland: There has to be a system, man.

Bill: And I'll go a step further and say that, you know, I've never been one of those people who says "America, love it or leave." I thought that was stupid when I first heard it in the '60s. I think it's stupid now. You should be able to criticize your country. But if a woman says, "I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males" --

Eric: Then you don't get a license.

Bill: I also don't know how you can really fit into this culture. I mean, we can go back maybe a century. We can't go back ten centuries and try to fit those together.

[ Talking over each other ]

Boots: -- You're sayin' right now. You're sayin' that you don't think it could fit into this culture.

Bill: I'm saying there is --

Boots: You're saying that --

Bill: I'm saying that people who believe this, that is a clash of civilizations.

Erin: Well, the reason she's here is to escape the oppressive regimes of Middle Eastern government.

Bill: Right.

Erin: That's why she's here.

Eric: But she certainly has a right to practice her religion in this country.

Boots: The oppressive regimes that we support --

[ Talking over each other ]

Bill: Yes.

Eric: That's okay. That's all right.

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: But that does not mean that she has the right to dictate this to the state. Absolutely not. But in private life, of course, she can wear whatever she wants to wear.

Bill: But she's saying, "I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males."

Eric: So that's her private -- that's her choice.

Bill: Right.

Eric: But she cannot dictate that to the state government. That's nonsense.

Bill: In 21st century America, that probably is going to present a problem in the workplace.

Eric: That's her problem, though.

Bill: That is her problem.

[ Talking over each other ]

Bill: But she wants to drive. They want the best part of America -- the modernity. They want all the good stuff. They wanna have a cell phone to call to say, "Hey, guys, come over to the beheading."

[ Scattered applause ]

Boots: The problem is, this was not a problem until September 11th. So all of these reasoning that you're giving are --

Erin: A lot of things weren't a problem until September 11th.

Bill: It should have been.

Boots: Separation of church and state -- all of these reasonings are just reasons to back up why we're cracking down and being hard on --

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: The issue of -- The issue of separation of church and state has been discussed from the beginning of this country.

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: This is nothing new.

Erin: September 11th -- everything is different since September. You can't deny that. And rightfully so. Things have to be a little different. I had to wait two hours this morning at the airport while they rummaged through my luggage. And I'm happy to do it.

Boots: So you're saying that her covering her face is a security issue? Like everybody that was on that plane didn't have a license showing --

Eric: Are you and I allowed to wear sunglasses when we take our picture?

Boots: What I'm saying is --

Bill: What if everyone wanted to go back to the middle ages? What if I want my wife to wear a chastity belt when I go out of town.

Eric: It might be interesting.

[ Laughter ]

Boots: You're bringing up something --

Bill: No, I'm saying --

[ Applause ]

I'm saying that's medieval. And there are a lot of other things.

[ Talking over each other ]

Harland: You better, Bill, 'cause I know where your wife lives.

Bill: I don't have a wife.

[ Laughter ]

There were two Iraqi guys who were arrested for statutory rape in this country because -- they didn't know why. Because in their culture, their uncle gave them a 14-year-old. Okay? There's another group -- the Mon. They're from Laos. They have a custom called marriage by capture. I don't think we have that here.

[ Talking over each other ]

Eric: When you come to this country, you abide by the laws that rule this country. Period. Every immigrant has done it in the past -- do it now. It's as simple as it is. We all assimilated. I'm an immigrant. I assimilated. I adjust to the laws that exist here. That's -- if you don't, stay home.

Bill: Right.

Eric: That's as simple as it is.

Bill: I gotta take a break. We'll be back.

[ Cheers and applause ]

Bill: Okay. Boots, I wanna talk about your album cover. Now that's the one that's out in the stores. In fact, it's called "Party Music." So there's a picture of a guy holding a champagne glass.

Boots: It's a molotov cocktail.

Bill: A molotov cocktail? It looks -- It looks like a flaming Martini.

Boots: All right, cool.

Bill: Here's the one that you -- I don't know if you can see that. If you can get close enough in there. It's the World Trade Center on the day just as the planes hit. And there are you guys -- You don't look terribly upset about it in the foreground. You look like you're partying and --

Boots: Well, there are no planes being hit right there. But --

Bill: But it's the World Trade Center being hit by planes.

Boots: Uh-huh.

Erin: No, he's -- he's detonating it.

Boots: Yeah.

Erin: With a guitar tuner.

Bill: Oh, you're detonating it?

Boots: See, the --

Bill: Tell me what this means and why you think --

Boots: It means -- the metaphor is suppose to be that our music is destroying capitalism. I have a base guitar tuner which is detonating the bomb.

Eric: Boots, let me ask you, what have you got against capitalism?

Boots: And my deejay has --

Bill: Why do want to destroy capitalism?

Eric: What have you got against capitalism?

Boots: Oh, the same -- the same reason that people should be against the -- Enron controlling the government.

[ Talking over each other ]

Bill: Okay, but that's not capitalism. That is --

Boots: Exactly. I live in capitalism. I have to --

Bill: I know.

Boots: I'm on TV. They probably show the Coke ad right now. I'm on something being done by Disney. So I have to use it to get my work.

Eric: Let me ask you. What paradise do you envision?

Boots: Look, I envision --

Eric: Where would you rather live?

Boots: I envision something so crazy that it should be more Democratic. I think the people should control the profits that they create.

[ Talking over each other ]

Harland: -- Sumo wrestle, man. He wants to sumo wrestle you.

Boots: That's what communism is. That's what socialism is. I'm a Communist. And I think that the people should have control over their own destiny and over the profits --

Bill: Did you read any of the history of the 20th century? They did try communism.

Erin: He's more concerned with material equality than he is with individual rights.

Boots: And if people know the definition of it, they'd all want to.

Bill: But it doesn't work in practicality. Because it doesn't conform with human nature.

Boots: First of all --

Bill: Human nature is greedy.

Boots: No, that's not true.

[ Talking over each other ]

Bill: They tried communism. Did you get the memo?

[ Talking over each other ]

Boots: They did not try communism. That is false. Did you read the history books?

Bill: Yeah, I did.

Boots: The truth is, they never even claimed to get to communism. Soviet Union only said -- claimed that they were fighting for socialism. And they never got there. The point is that you can either -- you can either --

Erin: Anything that redistributes wealth doesn't work.

Bill: Right.

Boots: You can either have a society like this where half a percentage of --

Bill: All right. I gotta take a capitalistic break. Excuse me, I gotta sell something.

[ Applause ]

Bill: Okay, very important. I didn't understand. This truly is a coincidence. This was out in May before the towers were hit. A bad coincidence, but a coincidence.

[ Cheers and applause ]
 
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Boots is the man. Wack he kept getting cut off. Too bad he spent so much time on the 'Veil' issue, his insight on the other political topics were on point, would've been nice if he'd had more of a chance to elaborate and complete a thought w/o getting interuppeted. IMO, he was the only one on there observing the art of conversation, all the other pricks were more interested in just speaking and not listening....
 
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