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http://www.portlandmercury.com/2003-12-18/music.html


POH-Hop 8

Thur Dec 18 & Fri Dec 19

Ash Street Saloon

& Berbati's Pan


In 1995, when Terence Scott (better known as Cool Nutz) started staging the Portland Oregon Hip-Hop Festival (better known as POH-Hop), hiphop was a lot different. Not just locally, when only a few groups were coming up; but nationally, before the music of hiphop was divided by genre. It was before the invisible lines between hiphop artists--and its fans--were drawn; before there was an established delineation between genres such as "gangsta rap," "backpacker/ underground hiphop," or, more absurdly, "goth-hop," "emo-hop," "pop-hop," et cetera and so forth. It was before those delineations were vague signifiers of where your allegiances lay, before they even helped define the kind of person you were.

Cool Nutz liked it like that.

"It's one of the things that bothered me through the course of Portland hiphop," he says. "When we first started doing POH-hop, there was no segregation between the street gangsta element and the battle rappers and the backpackers and groups of that nature. There was never a separation. But hiphop has evolved, and now people choose their allegiances. [While hiphop] is really diverse, normally a show [consists of] a certain kind of artist; three groups all doing the same thing. I think the separation diluted the scene. Now you have people arguing whether 'this is real hiphop; people will say, 'oh, he said that he's from Compton or something, so I don't like it.'"

At first, POH-Hops were established to galvanize the Portland scene, to bring groups together and establish the idea that Portland, while not as nationally renowned as places like Oakland or LA, has a viable and vibrant hiphop scene. The first few POH-Hops were held at the now-defunct venue La Luna, and drew as many as 800 people, according to Cool Nutz. When La Luna tanked, however, the festivals became more difficult to stage. For POH-Hops Four through Seven, Cool Nutz says, "We included acts like Spearhead and Michael Franti, Luniz, Mac Dre, and Ras Kass and featured them as headlining--but we had to move the nights to Berbati's and the Roseland. And with the POH-hop being a locally featured event, it's kinda hard when you have a room the size of the Roseland, and the expenses are so high. That's one of the reasons I had to downsize it this year--so we could keep it local and keep the costs down."

Cool Nutz and his co-presenter, local musician/activist David Parks, opted to skip putting on POH-Hop last year, for reasons he attributes to a certain stagnation in the local scene. Despite the increasing visibility of the Lifesavas, and the overwhelming popularity of out-of-town performers like Aesop Rock and Atmosphere, it concerned Scott that other local acts had the talent, but weren't getting the exposure. With POH-Hop 8, Scott hopes to increase awareness and spark interest in groups that may not even play shows very often, especially on a festival scale. "I feel like in the city, there's not much interest in local hiphop except for a few entities. Portland hiphop is moving forward, but you only have a couple of groups establishing growth in the scene outside of Portland. So to be the catalyst for growth, we have to step up to bat and be responsible for that."

On Thurs Dec 18, the Ash Street hosts POH-Hop's Women in Hiphop Showcase, featuring Siren's Echo, Piece, Turiya, Kay Kay, J-Kron, Sonnie, DJ Deena B, Beyonda, DJ Niz; On Fri Dec 19 at Berbati's, catch Sleep, Maniac Lok, Brotha Luv, TD 32, Potluck, Young Fame, Bullet & Todd G, Cleveland Steamers, Mr. Meezalini, XTAC, Quivah, Dee Arthur & the Flytrapper, Myg, Sonny Bonoho, Trashheap, Face, and DJ Wicked. See Sidebar and Up and Coming, pg 21, for more details.
 
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Right on..

Did anyone go to this show last night? The first of the two part show..

The Women In Hip Hop..
 
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No, and I wouldn't want to go to ethier of them. If I wanted to be around some lying thieves and scumbags I could just hang out on the streets with some crack heads. Oh, what am I saying, I can't wait to see lame young fame and kay kay the fat lady.
 
May 9, 2002
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Re: Da Mack

If your post is refered to me, I want nothing to do, see, or hear from jus family if they involved with mackin rob/young fame and kay kay. Those people are low life peices of shit, nobodys, fake, frontin. So if jus family is in kahoots with those type of people, they are probably the same as them. This ain't hatin it's the TRUTH.
 
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^^^tha fucc? well i think da mack was talkin to fedex cuz he always be postin some shit about jus fam...personally i see jus fam as being exactly the opposite of fake frontin people...so as far as that goes i wouldnt worry about that shit with jus fam...

and to answer the main post, i didn't go to the thing because i'm underage............
 
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No, and I wouldn't want to go to ethier of them. If I wanted to be around some lying thieves and scumbags I could just hang out on the streets with some crack heads. Oh, what am I saying, I can't wait to see lame young fame and kay kay the fat lady.
some one needs a hug:confused:
 
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^^ He was indeed talking to Mr FedEx, from what i can ascertain.

And there is nothing in this thread giving the impression that people need to live more and learn anything they don't already know. So i don't know where you pulled that from, and i'm probably better off not knowing (/joke).
 
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That was good reading......as a longtime listener of the local scene I can't say enough about Nutz. It would be so easy for them to stray on the original premises of Poh-Hop and bring in more names that bring name recognition/sales. But for him to keep that same determination & focus for 9 years is beyond words. Thank you Nutz.....you deserve everything coming your way.
 
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@ Bullet, kay kays mom was staying out my house, she wanted to see her grandkids, I let them come over and kay kays son stole around $600.00 worth of Ps2 games and dvds. When kay kay was confronted about it she lied and said he had no games or dvds. mackin rob/ young fame burglarized my house of over $25,000.00 worth of electronics wich included my home studio and computer that had my past 3 years of work on it.
 
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^^he doesnt need a hug, he needs a gat, and common sense, if your house has that much shit in it you need to keep it on lock and if peepz break into the homestead and you KNOW how they are...wow id re-cop the shit they stole at gunpoint or somethin...
 
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@ Blaze

Think about what you are saying? How many times have I asked you "Are you retarded", when you told me your sad stories of being taken advantage of? What can I do for someone that keeps putting themselves in the position to be the victim. You never even used simple common sense to protect yourself.

We here at Jus Family kept treating you with respect, and have never taken advantage of you on any occassion. I can't do more for you, then you are willing to do for yourself.

Your personal situations have nothing to do with my business, or the business of POH-HOP. I'm sorry that you feel that we have something to do with all of your terrible misfortunes, but this isn't the case.

You called me numerous times after you had been mistreated by these people, and how many times did I try to give you good advice, to only have you call me a week later with the same type of sorrowful story. You have a problem, and you need to get help. I refuse to be held accountable for your lack of common sense.

You know the truth. If you have an issue with me, you need to take it up with me, and stop being a pussy and posting this bullshit on the internet. My number hasn't changed.

Smarten up and stop trusting people so much. You had Jus Family in your corner, but now that shit is over with. I thought that you were in jail or something, after your cell-phone got cut off. If you have an issue, holler at me.

@ Kalyn

POH-HOP was good. It was a good turnout for both nights, and a good time was had by all. Maybe one day you can come down to Portland and enjoy yourself.
 
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@ Kalyn

POH-HOP was good. It was a good turnout for both nights, and a good time was had by all. Maybe one day you can come down to Portland and enjoy yourself.

I'm glad to hear POH-HOP had yet another successful year.. very soon I hope to make it one of your events.. :)