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Dec 25, 2003
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I got that & the savages comp he dropped??? Hes got great tastes in features & production as far as a latino who networks & collabs with lots of ppl from all over the west......
 

WXS STOMP3R

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I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED WITH HIM...IS HE DROPPED THOSE CD'S AND DIDNT GET NO LOVE UP NORTH...
SINCE HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM SOUTHERN CALI...AND HE DIDNT REALLY PUSH IT DOWN SOUTH NEITHER.

NOW AND DAYS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT BUT BACK THEN...HIS MARKETING WAS OFF...AND HIS FAN BASE WASNT WHAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
 
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He was still good at unifying the west as far as networkin goes... Dudes most defintely a true fan & supporter of the west coast underground all thruout the fans /critics will always be biased no matter what u introduce to the market...... He seems neutral bringin ppl from Mr. Doc to Young Droop to Taydatay to Mr. Lil One & now, other latins are tryin their hardest to reunify the west all around by hooking up wit varieties of ppl no matter where theyre from... Fuck the regional bias oppressive dumbshit!!
 

WXS STOMP3R

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He was still good at unifying the west as far as networkin goes... Dudes most defintely a true fan & supporter of the west coast underground all thruout the fans /critics will always be biased no matter what u introduce to the market...... He seems neutral bringin ppl from Mr. Doc to Young Droop to Taydatay to Mr. Lil One & now, other latins are tryin their hardest to reunify the west all around by hooking up wit varieties of ppl no matter where theyre from... Fuck the regional bias oppressive dumbshit!!
ONE THING THOUGH...UNLIKE BLOODS AND CRIPS...SUR AND NORTE WON'T EVER DO BUSINESS...OR MAKE ANY EXCEPTIONS

THE THING IS NOW AT THIS POINT...THERE IS A GOOD NUMBER OF UPSTATE SURENOS...WHERE CATS LIKE PHANTOM COULD HAVE BUILT UP A BIGGER FAN BASE...BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A RECENT TREND...WHEN HE RELEASED HIS PROJECTS...UPSTATE SURENOS WEREN'T REALLY UP TO PAR OR ACCEPTED BY THE DOWN SOUTH SURENO'S...SO SURENOS DOWN SOUTH DIDNT REALLY THINK MUCH OF IT,NORTENOS MOST LIKELY DIDNT FUCK WITH IT,AND OTHER RACES ASSUMED HE WAS A WACK CHOLO RAPPER...HE DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO USE THAT AS A WAY TO MARKET HIS PROJECTS (OBVIOUSLY) EITHER...IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SMART ANYWAYS...BUT I THINK HE HAD A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT HIS NICHE...

HE'S A COOL CAT THOUGH...I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HEARD SOME NEW SHIT FROM HIM...

I THINK IF HE COULD HAVE DROPPED A SOLID NEW PROJECT EVERY FEW YEARS...HE COULD HAVE DONE SOME BIG THINGS...NOT TO SAY HE HASN'T... BUT AS FAR A RECORDING ARTIST HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER BY STAYING RELEVANT...
 

dalycity650

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Feb 8, 2006
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i discovered phantoms music back when my sis boyfriend used to bring his cd collection to my house, he had almost every sac or bay cd you could name! shiiiit this was back in 02! But imo tho he had the hardest track on the Asassin "City Of Dope" comp.
 
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I was hoping a second solo would come out called ''Get your hands dirty'' never did,its a shame he had a great voice and a great flow,one of my favourite tracks is ''In my defense'',Maybe G-Idez could shed some light on the topic i know he used to post on here years ago.
 

BO$$

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HE SEEMED MORE LIKE A BUSINESS MAN TO ME N I WASN'T QUICK TO JUDGE, BUT HE SEEMED SUSPECT TO ME. THAT CAN BE ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE NOT TO LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC. A LOT OF HEADS FROM NORTHERN CALI LIKE THE MUSIC HE HELPED PUT OUT, BUT SOME OF HIS MOVES DID HURT FOR THERE TO BE A BIGGER FAN BASE ALL OVER THE STATE. EITHER WAY, IT'S HARD FOR IT NOT TO BE LIKE THAT UNLESS YOU'RE SOMEONE LIKE SNOOP. I DON'T KNOW WHY "UPSTATE SURENOS" WERE BROUGHT UP, WHEN HIS PROJECTS SEEMED TO ONLY FEATURE MAYBE 1 SOUTHERNER N AN ACTUAL 1 FROM THE SOUTH AT THAT. PLUS I FEEL LIKE THIS "RECENT TREND" MUST BE ADDRESSED, SO I'M GOING TO LET IT BE KNOWN WHAT REAL UPSTATE CALI IS:
 

WXS STOMP3R

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HE SEEMED MORE LIKE A BUSINESS MAN TO ME N I WASN'T QUICK TO JUDGE, BUT HE SEEMED SUSPECT TO ME. THAT CAN BE ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE NOT TO LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC. A LOT OF HEADS FROM NORTHERN CALI LIKE THE MUSIC HE HELPED PUT OUT, BUT SOME OF HIS MOVES DID HURT FOR THERE TO BE A BIGGER FAN BASE ALL OVER THE STATE. EITHER WAY, IT'S HARD FOR IT NOT TO BE LIKE THAT UNLESS YOU'RE SOMEONE LIKE SNOOP. I DON'T KNOW WHY "UPSTATE SURENOS" WERE BROUGHT UP, WHEN HIS PROJECTS SEEMED TO ONLY FEATURE MAYBE 1 SOUTHERNER N AN ACTUAL 1 FROM THE SOUTH AT THAT. PLUS I FEEL LIKE THIS "RECENT TREND" MUST BE ADDRESSED, SO I'M GOING TO LET IT BE KNOWN WHAT REAL UPSTATE CALI IS:
THE ONLY REASON UPSTATE SURENOS WERE BROUGHT UP...WAS CAUSE NO NORTENOS WERE GONNA BUY HIS MUSIC...

AND IF THEY DID...

IT WASNT WILLINGLY KNOWING HE'S A SO CAL CAT... THAT GOT HIS HOOKS INTO THE GAME UP NORTH...

NOW THERE'S A FAN BASE OF SURENOS FROM UP NORTH WHICH DIDNT EXIST OR WASNT AT THAT LEVEL BEFORE OR DURING

PHANTOMS TIME...

HOPE THAT MAKES MORE SENSE?


BTW DID I EVER MENTION I TAXED THE SHIT OUT OF SOME FINE LIL BITCH IN FRISCO???