People will never be free, and you are powerless...

[HERESY]

Listen, nothing is going to change the fact that 80% of the wealthy stay wealthy and nothing is going to change the fact that only 20% of the poor change their economic status. You can talk about politicians this, politicians that, but be truthful with yourselves for once. The majority of these people do NOT care about YOU. You are a FOOL to them, you are a useless eater, your only purpose in life is to be used--you are expendable. How many times have these rich people reached out to you or considered anything you have said to be important or remotely intelligent? How many times have these rich people invited you to their homes or social gatherings? How many times have these rich people shook your hands and not wiped it on their sports coat when you turned your back? I see threads here concerning politicians and who could be in power, but how is that going to change YOUR situation and improve your social mobility? Are these people going to say "come on you're now one of us?" HELL NO! You, just like the majority of us, are OUT OF THE LOOP, so why are you swinging from their nutsack? I'll tell you why, because most of you are CURS, and your heart pumps SUGAR WATER. You want to be accepted by these people so bad, you'll do anything short of slicing your mothers dick off, and thats not saying much (and NO, I don't mean father, because your mother most likely wears the pants in your family)

What do you do? You conform and have some far-fetched belief that things are going to change. For you atheist on this board who talk about change, who are always talking about faith, questioning God, and ridiculing religion you are just as guilty of following faith and man made ideaologies than any christian, muslim, hindu etc. What have you done to change anything? NOTHING! You know, just like I know, that people are NOT going to change.

There will NEVER be an uprising of the poor that will result in global change, and their will NEVER be an uprising in america that changes the system. You talk about Marx, you talk about socialism, you talk about Weber, you talk about conflict theorists, you talk about capitalism, you talk about communism, you TALK TALK TALK! You talk about Left VS Right, you talk about Republican VS Democrat, you talk about Liberalism VS Conservatism...again, all you do is TALK TALK TALK!

Whats even worse is when someone DOES decide to do something, the frail of mind, and mentally impotent members of this board will resort to laughter, and funny guy antics instead of addressing the issue, and I don't need to say any names, if the shoe fits wear it bitch.

Then we have the religious guys, niggas think God is gone reach out and fix shit. *BING* the finger of God has thouched man and now things are changed. WRONG! Why SHOULD God have to step in when YOU can step in? I'll tell you why, because most of you are too scared to actually go out with a bang or make a statement. Most of you are too scary to get in the trenches and deal with the real problem. The problem is you are CONTENT with not doing what needs to be done.

Then we have the people saying soldiers are dying and fighting for our rights? First off, what rights do we have, and are the people the soldiers fighting a threat to our rights? Hell no! You have LIMITED rights, those are being washed away daily, and ain't no nigga thousands of miles away with a busted AK-47 and bomb (that might not even explode on detonation) a threat to your life, and you want to know who believes a lot of this shit? WHITE AMERICANS. You eat this shit up like it is golden fuckin syrup! Like this shit is golden fuckin apples, but let a black person tell you something TRUE and VALID, and that shit will go in ONE EAR and SMOOTH OUT THE OTHER.

But it doesn't stop here, pay attention to a lot of the tactics of the white members on the board when it comes to religion. "Religion is a tool used to do this", and "religion is a tool to do that"? But have you failed to realize that ANYTHING, especially a vice, can be used to control people? Not only that, but I RARELY see you mention the fact that religious zealots used the bible to justify greed and slavery. I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, saw you mention how the slaves, abolishionists, and civil rights advocates used the bible and religion as a form of PEACE and as a tool of FORGIVENESS when they could have possibly rose up and NOT gone the passive route. You muthafuckas need to be the FIRST ones advocating religion and the good shit that comes from it.

Are minorities exempt? Hell no! Take EDJ for example, this man provided info about mexicans and afrikans, but look how he was ridiculed for it. You have black men, in their 30's and 40's, behaving as children and leading the kids down a wrong path. And guess what is usually used to justify this ignorance? Money. "Oh he is getting his money", "he is on his paper route", yet what are the downfalls of the paper chase? Yeah, they don't teach you that shit on these faggoty rap cd's do they? Gold teeth in the mouth, grinning like a sambo, forty in hand, pants saggin, reminding white america that you will always be a brute--good job. "Oh Heresy fuck what they think", Naw nigga, fuck what YOU think.

And for the people saying, oh its a class war they are trying to divide us, let me ask you a question. When was the LAST TIME you walked through a neighborhood riddled with poverty? You can arm chair quarterback it all you want, but save that shit for the birds. You and I both know you have better chances because of your ascribed status. Save that shit for one of these tooth fairy pink pop corn munchin niggas.

I gotta bone out now....

:H:

 

[2-0-NINE]

I tip my cap off to you man, for saying that, but how do we know that you don't adhere to what you say? I'm not question you, well I am. I agree with most of what you said, my mom does wear the pants cause I never had a father. When you spoke on Religious guys, there are probably a couple, me, Jon21, MEXCOM, and I guess you exclude yourself, so hmmm... But Ok, nice post.

 

[HERESY]

And I'm trying to get your ass to think. We are divided over religion, education, social class, economic class, material items, political affiliation etc. As long as no one is thinking or questioning will change happen? NO!

I don't like typing stuff like this, but it came to that point. I think this board needs a lot more of the hard :H: stuff.

 

[HERESY]

I tip my cap off to you man, for saying that, but how do we know that you don't adhere to what you say? I'm not question you, well I am. I agree with most of what you said, my mom does wear the pants cause I never had a father. When you spoke on Religious guys, there are probably a couple, me, Jon21, MEXCOM, and I guess you exclude yourself, so hmmm... But Ok, nice post.

Cause I get down with people OFFLINE. I am NOT a hard person to find. And no, don't start applying everything to yourself and your life as if it is applicable. READ what I am saying, try to understand it , and if you can apply it to your life or someone elses life thats all gravity. You, MEXCOM and Jon are NOT the only religious people here. I'm talking about the religious people who need ear candy (like the christians who want the pre trib rapture theory.)

If you are getting in the trenches and doing what needs to be done the religious stuff is not applicable to you.

 

[HERESY]

Look at this:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=217516
http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=217519

People think these things will change by selecting a guy (or woman) to put in office. People believe these things will magically change. I can see these idiots skipping off, and dancing like that faggoty leprechaun with his magically delicious cereal.

 

[I. Cold]

People don't wanna hear that shit though. How can you explain something to someone when they don't/won't hear it?
I feel the same as you do to a certain extent. And I've written pieces somewhat similar to what you have just written.. Whether it be for class or on other message board (I rarely preach on the siccness). The general response I get? Banned! I've gotten banned from so many message boards for that. I know it seems stupid and pedy that I'm being "silenced" on message boards because they aren't "real life". But they represent real life to a degree. I'd be silenced if I was preaching this in a town hall just the same as a message board.

People are too stuck in their ways. All middle class people are thinking 'I'm gonna be in the upperclass one day so I shouldn't take action to limit their power and influence'. They will NOT though. They won't make that transition to wealthy.. But their optimism keeps them in that state of mind. People have too much hope. Don't wanna face the music. Everyone's got a dream (wealth).. a dream they actually think they'll achieve.

Call it what you want.. hope, faith, loyalty, determination. It's preventing people to realize that they aren't in the loop as you put it.

 

[HERESY]

People don't wanna hear that shit though. How can you explain something to someone when they don't/won't hear it?
I feel the same as you do to a certain extent. And I've written pieces somewhat similar to what you have just written.. Whether it be for class or on other message board (I rarely preach on the siccness). The general response I get? Banned! I've gotten banned from so many message boards for that. I know it seems stupid and pedy that I'm being "silenced" on message boards because they aren't "real life". But they represent real life to a degree. I'd be silenced if I was preaching this in a town hall just the same as a message board.

People are too stuck in their ways. All middle class people are thinking 'I'm gonna be in the upperclass one day so I shouldn't take action to limit their power and influence'. They will NOT though. They won't make that transition to wealthy.. But their optimism keeps them in that state of mind. People have too much hope. Don't wanna face the music. Everyone's got a dream (wealth).. a dream they actually think they'll achieve.

Call it what you want.. hope, faith, loyalty, determination. It's preventing people to realize that they aren't in the loop as you put it.

This man understands the moral of the story. This man understands the importance of the loop and how you will NEVER become a part of it. Black, white, asian, blue, red, PLATINUM! No matter what color/race/creed/culture this is your fate...

And hell no, you should NOT be banned for speaking your mind, and what is the truth.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I'll drop my thoughts later...no time for an in-depth reply right now

 

[Gringo Starr]

This man understands the moral of the story. This man understands the importance of the loop and how you will NEVER become a part of it. Black, white, asian, blue, red, PLATINUM! No matter what color/race/creed/culture this is your fate...

And hell no, you should NOT be banned for speaking your mind, and what is the truth.

What if one of us gets filthy rich through the same greed these corporate monsters did?Or, for all ANYONE knows; you, me, STOCKTON, etc. maybe related to the Bush family or another wealthy family. The fact is, we dont know shit about eachother other than what we type on this board. And for all we know, we are all lying and are not whom we appear to be. Maybe im George Bush. Myabe im the real Heresy and you are an alien.

TO say "you will never become part of the loop" is sayin that you believe everyone you come into contact with here. I take everyone on here witha grain of salt. Hell, maybe some of this people are automated BOTS here just to fill up space.

I do understand what youre saying and I DO agree. Do I care? Not so much. It is what it is.

 

[HERESY]

What if one of us gets filthy rich through the same greed these corporate monsters did?

There is an 80% chance that this won't happen. How many millionaires do you associate with on a daily basis? See what I mean?

Or, for all ANYONE knows; you, me, STOCKTON, etc. maybe related to the Bush family or another wealthy family.

Being related to someone does not mean you will eat from the same table as they do, nor does it mean you will get down with the person.

The fact is, we dont know shit about eachother other than what we type on this board.

For some people this is true. For some people (such as myself) this is a different story.

And for all we know, we are all lying and are not whom we appear to be. Maybe im George Bush. Myabe im the real Heresy and you are an alien.

LMAO! Thats an interesting comment, and I'm gonna get back to that later on in another post.

TO say "you will never become part of the loop" is sayin that you believe everyone you come into contact with here. I take everyone on here witha grain of salt. Hell, maybe some of this people are automated BOTS here just to fill up space.

You won't become a part of the loop. That is how things work. If a person does become part of the loop it is because that person was ascribed the position from birth, or that person is willing to pay the price (whatever that may be.)

I do understand what youre saying and I DO agree. Do I care? Not so much. It is what it is.

ok.

 

[|GOD|||ZILLA|]

"free your mind, and the rest will follow"

:dead:

 

[ilikeballs]

“Man, I see in around me the strongest and smartest men
who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering.
God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables;
slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and
clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.
We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place.
We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a
spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been
raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be
millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And
we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.” Fight Club

"Men, more than ever, have lost their way. They’ve fallen prey to a popular media
that tells women they can have it all, be liberated, and they think that this is now their
birthright and entitlement. Women are acting more like men, and it’s only because most
men don’t act like men, so someone has to." Unknown

 

[Rob S4]

Listen, nothing is going to change the fact that 80% of the wealthy stay wealthy and nothing is going to change the fact that only 20% of the poor change their economic status. You can talk about politicians this, politicians that, but be truthful with yourselves for once. The majority of these people do NOT care about YOU. You are a FOOL to them, you are a useless eater, your only purpose in life is to be used--you are expendable. How many times have these rich people reached out to you or considered anything you have said to be important or remotely intelligent? How many times have these rich people invited you to their homes or social gatherings? How many times have these rich people shook your hands and not wiped it on their sports coat when you turned your back? I see threads here concerning politicians and who could be in power, but how is that going to change YOUR situation and improve your social mobility? Are these people going to say "come on you're now one of us?" HELL NO! You, just like the majority of us, are OUT OF THE LOOP, so why are you swinging from their nutsack? I'll tell you why, because most of you are CURS, and your heart pumps SUGAR WATER. You want to be accepted by these people so bad, you'll do anything short of slicing your mothers dick off, and thats not saying much (and NO, I don't mean father, because your mother most likely wears the pants in your family)

What do you do? You conform and have some far-fetched belief that things are going to change. For you atheist on this board who talk about change, who are always talking about faith, questioning God, and ridiculing religion you are just as guilty of following faith and man made ideaologies than any christian, muslim, hindu etc. What have you done to change anything? NOTHING! You know, just like I know, that people are NOT going to change.

There will NEVER be an uprising of the poor that will result in global change, and their will NEVER be an uprising in america that changes the system. You talk about Marx, you talk about socialism, you talk about Weber, you talk about conflict theorists, you talk about capitalism, you talk about communism, you TALK TALK TALK! You talk about Left VS Right, you talk about Republican VS Democrat, you talk about Liberalism VS Conservatism...again, all you do is TALK TALK TALK!

Whats even worse is when someone DOES decide to do something, the frail of mind, and mentally impotent members of this board will resort to laughter, and funny guy antics instead of addressing the issue, and I don't need to say any names, if the shoe fits wear it bitch.

Then we have the religious guys, niggas think God is gone reach out and fix shit. *BING* the finger of God has thouched man and now things are changed. WRONG! Why SHOULD God have to step in when YOU can step in? I'll tell you why, because most of you are too scared to actually go out with a bang or make a statement. Most of you are too scary to get in the trenches and deal with the real problem. The problem is you are CONTENT with not doing what needs to be done.

Then we have the people saying soldiers are dying and fighting for our rights? First off, what rights do we have, and are the people the soldiers fighting a threat to our rights? Hell no! You have LIMITED rights, those are being washed away daily, and ain't no nigga thousands of miles away with a busted AK-47 and bomb (that might not even explode on detonation) a threat to your life, and you want to know who believes a lot of this shit? WHITE AMERICANS. You eat this shit up like it is golden fuckin syrup! Like this shit is golden fuckin apples, but let a black person tell you something TRUE and VALID, and that shit will go in ONE EAR and SMOOTH OUT THE OTHER.

But it doesn't stop here, pay attention to a lot of the tactics of the white members on the board when it comes to religion. "Religion is a tool used to do this", and "religion is a tool to do that"? But have you failed to realize that ANYTHING, especially a vice, can be used to control people? Not only that, but I RARELY see you mention the fact that religious zealots used the bible to justify greed and slavery. I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, saw you mention how the slaves, abolishionists, and civil rights advocates used the bible and religion as a form of PEACE and as a tool of FORGIVENESS when they could have possibly rose up and NOT gone the passive route. You muthafuckas need to be the FIRST ones advocating religion and the good shit that comes from it.

Are minorities exempt? Hell no! Take EDJ for example, this man provided info about mexicans and afrikans, but look how he was ridiculed for it. You have black men, in their 30's and 40's, behaving as children and leading the kids down a wrong path. And guess what is usually used to justify this ignorance? Money. "Oh he is getting his money", "he is on his paper route", yet what are the downfalls of the paper chase? Yeah, they don't teach you that shit on these faggoty rap cd's do they? Gold teeth in the mouth, grinning like a sambo, forty in hand, pants saggin, reminding white america that you will always be a brute--good job. "Oh Heresy fuck what they think", Naw nigga, fuck what YOU think.

And for the people saying, oh its a class war they are trying to divide us, let me ask you a question. When was the LAST TIME you walked through a neighborhood riddled with poverty? You can arm chair quarterback it all you want, but save that shit for the birds. You and I both know you have better chances because of your ascribed status. Save that shit for one of these tooth fairy pink pop corn munchin niggas.

I gotta bone out now....

:H:

Is that all are you sure you dont want to go into more detail then you should have? Any more thoughts you care to share with the rest of the class?

This cat acts like his small post in the siccness is going to change things haha. People are the way they are regardless. Realize that one for your own good fortune before you point fingers. Dissing people because the way they act. Yeah good one, like you have any right to talk shit. Did anybody ever tell you violence only brings more violence. Get the fuck outta here with that ranting bullshit. Are you not the same cat talking all high and mighty about your friend Lyndon Larouche?

 

[gimpypimp]

There will NEVER be an uprising of the poor that will result in global change, and their will NEVER be an uprising in america that changes the system. You talk about Marx, you talk about socialism, you talk about Weber, you talk about conflict theorists, you talk about capitalism, you talk about communism, you TALK TALK TALK! You talk about Left VS Right, you talk about Republican VS Democrat, you talk about Liberalism VS Conservatism...again, all you do is TALK TALK TALK!

I've been saying this for a while now.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Is that all are you sure you dont want to go into more detail then you should have? Any more thoughts you care to share with the rest of the class?

This cat acts like his small post in the siccness is going to change things haha. People are the way they are regardless. Realize that one for your own good fortune before you point fingers. Dissing people because the way they act. Yeah good one, like you have any right to talk shit. Did anybody ever tell you violence only brings more violence. Get the fuck outta here with that ranting bullshit. Are you not the same cat talking all high and mighty about your friend Lyndon Larouche?

You get the fuck outta here with your ignorant posts, first you say Slavery is something the nation could care less of, now you're dissing a man's post? This is the exact same shit Phoenix sun spoke of, a man always get ridiculed even when he does good shit. Like SIXXNESS said you are a fuck up in this society. At least have the decency to admit you are one of these dumbfucks and actually do something. I'm out

 

[HERESY]

Is that all are you sure you dont want to go into more detail then you should have? Any more thoughts you care to share with the rest of the class?

This cat acts like his small post in the siccness is going to change things haha. People are the way they are regardless. Realize that one for your own good fortune before you point fingers. Dissing people because the way they act. Yeah good one, like you have any right to talk shit. Did anybody ever tell you violence only brings more violence. Get the fuck outta here with that ranting bullshit. Are you not the same cat talking all high and mighty about your friend Lyndon Larouche?

"Throw a rock into a pack of wolves. The one that yelps is the one you hit."

 

[HERESY]

heresy i dont think you wrote this, or if you did it was purely emotional, so my response is to whoever wrote this...


if i believed everything you wrote id poison myself, repent, die, and play xbox with jesus all day.

your entire crybaby session is ridiculously pathetic. you use these numbers (80% 20%)like they are static and things will never change, you presuppose your conclusion that things will not change as evidence that they will not change. i mean its definitely good rhetoric, first you pose questions, then you answer them etc.

then you say atheists are like religious people, to which i agree, but say things wont change. but all of these religions have gone through many changes since their inception, and many of them can be looked upon as variations of the others that changed in time.

so you talk about an uprising of the poor as if its a requirement for your idea of utopia. to which i say there has already been an uprising of the poor. there has been an uprising of all people. a middle income family has more amenities available to them than kings and emperors of the past, better health, better hygene, longer life span you name it. the pharoahs didnt have air conditioning.

now if what you are talking about is the availability for poor people to change places with rich people at will, then what are you really advocating, a revolving society or is it just money that you hate.

then you say people arent going to change. but havent they already? 60 years ago blacks were being lynched in this country and not allowed to drink at the same fountain as white people. now they are idolized by the white youth and we are actually discussing obama for president of the united states.

frankly its opinions and little tirades like yours that thwart the change they claim would set us free. you act like things have always been this way, and thats the way they will be. its the nature of man that has brought us to this point, its neither good nor bad, "it is what it is". It seems like you are unhappy with you place in the world, that in fact you are the one who wishes they would be among the so called elite but of course thats just my opinion. it seems like a depressing little pep talk losers recite to themselves each morning to justify there own beleif that they are the shit of the earth. these kind of people can be good though they make great lifelong employees with no aspirations and since they already think they are slaves, they are even easier to exploit.

lets move on to your next contradiction. first you say that the poor rising up will never happen, then you use the hypothetical that civil rights activists could have risen up and "not gone the passive route". You say that no uprising in america will change the system, but then of course you elude to the civil rights movement later.

moving on to neighborhoods riddled with poverty i will ask this question: how many poverty ridden neighborhoods would a rich man from the suburbs get killed in? how man rich gated communities would a poor man be murdered in?

in conclusion, you, the writer, are obsessed with "them" and you want others to share in your misery and world of jealousy. its funny cause you clearly harbor ill feelings, yet "they" dont give a shit about you or give you a moments thought, they have what you want, and you hate them and yourself for it. and if there truley is no possibility for change...well then xbox with jesus seems like your salvation.

"Throw a rock into a pack of wolves. The one that yelps is the one you hit."

And you were one of the people I intended to hit. In fact, I'm even going to devote some time to your essay.

 

[MataSkonkas]

WITH WHAT YOU TYPED, ARE YOU INCLUDING OR EXCLUDING URSELF FROM ALL THE "TALK TALK TALKERS"?

 

[HERESY]

no problem buddy, never take things personal, the fact that we do not know each other precludes such a thing.

''misery loves company'' isn't that why you are throwing rocks at wolves in the first place?

Why? heres why:

http://nobelprize.org/educational_games/medicine/pavlov/

 

[HERESY]

WITH WHAT YOU TYPED, ARE YOU INCLUDING OR EXCLUDING URSELF FROM ALL THE "TALK TALK TALKERS"?

You were included. Thats all you need to know.