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i got a card like that.. nothin' to do with nwo.. some fucken pussy bitch didn't want to get germs on his hands from the cashier touchin' there card.. ha.. naw.. i dunno.. but it does seem like it would make usin' someone else's credit card that much easier.. if you ever lose one of them bitches.. you better disconnect that shit right away.. i'm not acceptin' a new license tho.. whenever that shit is supposed to take place.. my shits good till the 2012.
 
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This is just the next step towards introducing a cashless society. This card contains a radio frequency identification chip. Next thing: why carry a card anymore??
 
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i think that's been around for a year or so now. visa has something like that too. and i think it's only good for transactions under $30, so you wouldn't get wiped out too quick. but i still wouldn't wanna lose it. i think the reasoning behind it is both convenience and security. if the cashier never physically handles your card, they can't get your account number. i've heard of cashiers writing down card numbers or taking a quick picture with a cell phone and then using the number to buy shit online. people are sneaky.
 
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^^^ would you be willing to get a chip implanted that contained your id, medical history, and your checking and savings account info on it? All cash could exist in the digital realm. That would be convenient, wouldn't it?
 
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taetae said:
^^^ would you be willing to get a chip implanted that contained your id, medical history, and your checking and savings account info on it? All cash could exist in the digital realm. That would be convenient, wouldn't it?
oh ok, now youre equating the petco paypass system with a chip implanted in my body.

most of the money i spend is not paper as it is. would a chip be convenient? of course it would be. you fear the government or the NWO or whatever you call it, and this fear leads you into a different line of thinking whereby you feel these mechanisms will let them control you. but the premise of most NWO supportes is that the NWO already controls the world. nobody needs a radio chip to track you, they already have your bank records, your cool cell phone, your internet records, patriot act wire taps, most major cities have the majority of public space under video surveilance.
 

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taetae said:
^^^ would you be willing to get a chip implanted that contained your id, medical history, and your checking and savings account info on it? All cash could exist in the digital realm. That would be convenient, wouldn't it?
no it wouldnt, shut the fuck up.
 

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nhojsmith said:
oh ok, now youre equating the petco paypass system with a chip implanted in my body.

most of the money i spend is not paper as it is. would a chip be convenient? of course it would be. you fear the government or the NWO or whatever you call it, and this fear leads you into a different line of thinking whereby you feel these mechanisms will let them control you. but the premise of most NWO supportes is that the NWO already controls the world. nobody needs a radio chip to track you, they already have your bank records, your cool cell phone, your internet records, patriot act wire taps, most major cities have the majority of public space under video surveilance.
And he still didn't answer the question.

Read his original question S-L-O-W-LY and answer it. BTW, the only connection he was making was the convience factor.
 
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taetae said:
^^^ would you be willing to get a chip implanted that contained your id, medical history, and your checking and savings account info on it? All cash could exist in the digital realm. That would be convenient, wouldn't it?
even though my answer to your question is very clear if you read my post above, the joke has brought to my attention that certian cross sections of soceity cant form a conclusion based off an entire paragraph. the answer is yes, i would be willing.
 
Sep 25, 2005
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ok, now youre equating the petco paypass system with a chip implanted in my body.
No, I'm not equating this situation with the future cashless society; I'm merely pointing out that this is one step towards it. This is a real phenomenon that is actually happening. The idea is to introduce it subtly so it doesn't cause alarm or concern. It is a graduated process. Credit and debit cards are the beginning; then we have database companies that have instituted "club card" savings systems in most major supermarkets, tracking everything YOU are buying, in order to track their demographics. This is a marketing system that is growing beyond it's original conception. The next step is a cashless society that includes microchip bank cards and records etc. It's a matter of control.

You mentioned
the premise of most NWO supportes is that the NWO already controls the world. nobody needs a radio chip to track you, they already have your bank records, your cool cell phone, your internet records, patriot act wire taps, most major cities have the majority of public space under video surveilance.
I suppose you are referring to people who are in support of NWO conspiracy, rather than "NWO supporters" which you reference in the above statement.

Even if we believe that the government has control and surveilance of most of our daily operations, does that mean we should just give up and passively accept any other update in interference from our government that appears to us?
 
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taetae said:
No, I'm not equating this situation with the future cashless society; I'm merely pointing out that this is one step towards it. This is a real phenomenon that is actually happening. The idea is to introduce it subtly so it doesn't cause alarm or concern. It is a graduated process. Credit and debit cards are the beginning; then we have database companies that have instituted "club card" savings systems in most major supermarkets, tracking everything YOU are buying, in order to track their demographics. This is a marketing system that is growing beyond it's original conception. The next step is a cashless society that includes microchip bank cards and records etc. It's a matter of control.

You mentioned
I suppose you are referring to people who are in support of NWO conspiracy, rather than "NWO supporters" which you reference in the above statement.

Even if we believe that the government has control and surveilance of most of our daily operations, does that mean we should just give up and passively accept any other update in interference from our government that appears to us?

now its clearer for me.

you already know what the NWO plan is..."The idea is to introduce it subtly so it doesn't cause alarm or concern. ....It's a matter of control."

so you are just one of the smart ones. the powerful NWO has fooled many people, but not you. if you feel this strongly about it, then no, you shouldnt passively accept it. but i suspect you have already accepted the use of a debit and creidt card, and a club card at your grocery store, im pretty sure you have insurance, and vehicle registration, and a drivers license, probably even a social security number. so what would you like to call it? active acceptance?? im curious as to your solution if this is indeed the case...
 
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taetae said:
^^^ Trudat. I'm curious as to my solution as well.. :(
you can always move to another country so it wont affect you in this lifetime. but youll have to tradeoff some of your luxuries. most of these "controls" are a byproduct of materialism. if you think you could make the jump to being a humble farmer or rancher, then there are numerous places you can go to and live out your days in anonymity. but this wont stop the progress of the NWO, and eventually your great great farmer grandchildren will be faced with assimilation or elimination.
 
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dependency on food and goods is a serious weakness in our society. Once buying and selling of commodities are controlled, society is controlled. The scary thing is that if cold hard cash disappears, we lose all tangible value of money; it becomes so much easier to control the flow of commodities.

It would be ideal to be self sustainable, living off the grid, growing your own food, but unfortunately that's a lot of dedication and hard work.

Local or Community Currency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_currencies

is a great idea that has been implemented in many places. See list of cities/towns in USA using local currency:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_community_currencies_in_the_United_States