Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack

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That's some shit. I remember when she came back over there, I was in London watching the BBC about it. They played that shit ALL day and night. Live coverage of that chick for like 20 straight hours, and then suicide bombers came in and tried to blow up her bus.

There was a lot of controversy over her though in that country from what I saw on the BBC about her being corrupt. But a lot of people seemed to love her and wanted her back as PM.
 
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That's some shit. I remember when she came back over there, I was in London watching the BBC about it. They played that shit ALL day and night. Live coverage of that chick for like 20 straight hours, and then suicide bombers came in and tried to blow up her bus.

There was a lot of controversy over her though in that country from what I saw on the BBC about her being corrupt. But a lot of people seemed to love her and wanted her back as PM.
Is it me or was her family involved in some shit, or was it a smear campaign by the media.
 

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Is it me or was her family involved in some shit, or was it a smear campaign by the media.
I'm not sure but I do remember hearing that her father was the main reason that she was elected or something along those lines. I'm not too sure about what the controversy was really about, the BBC just said there were rumors of corruption in the gov't and that she put herself in self exile.

By the way, it was a combined attack of bombings and shootings--at least according to Wikipedia--they already have the story of her death on her page...(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto)
Wikipedia said:
She was sworn in for the first time in 1988 but removed from office 20 months later under orders of then-president Ghulam Ishaq Khan on grounds of alleged corruption. In 1993 Bhutto was re-elected but was again removed in 1996 on similar charges, this time by President Farooq Leghari.

Bhutto went into self-imposed exile in Dubai in 1998, where she remained until she returned to Pakistan on October 18, 2007, after reaching an understanding with General Musharraf by which she was granted amnesty and all corruption charges were withdrawn.[1]
 

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I'm not sure but I do remember hearing that her father was the main reason that she was elected or something along those lines. I'm not too sure about what the controversy was really about, the BBC just said there were rumors of corruption in the gov't and that she put herself in self exile.

By the way, it was a combined attack of bombings and shootings--at least according to Wikipedia--they already have the story of her death on her page...(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto)
She sounds a lot like an American in this part:

The Taliban took power in Kabul in September 1996. It was during Bhutto's rule that the Taliban gained prominence in Afghanistan. She viewed the Taliban as a group that could stabilize Afghanistan and enable trade access to the Central Asian republics, according to author Stephen Coll.[13] He claims that her government provided military and financial support for the Taliban, even sending a small unit of the Pakistani army into Afghanistan.

More recently, she took an anti-Taliban stance, and condemned terrorist acts committed by the Taliban and their supporters.
 

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Here's the deal on the corruption from what I can find right now.

French, Polish, Spanish and Swiss documents have fueled the charges of corruption against Bhutto and her husband. Bhutto and her husband faced a number of legal proceedings, including a charge of laundering money through Swiss banks. Her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, spent eight years in prison on similar corruption charges. Zardari, released from jail in 2004, has suggested that his time in prison involved torture; human rights groups have supported his claim that his rights were violated.[14]

A 1998 New York Times investigative report[15] indicates that Pakistani investigators have documents that uncover a network of bank accounts, all linked to the family's lawyer in Switzerland, with Asif Zardari as the principal shareholder. According to the article, documents released by the French authorities indicated that Zardari offered exclusive rights to Dassault, a French aircraft manufacturer, to replace the air force's fighter jets in exchange for a 5% commission to be paid to a Swiss corporation controlled by Zardari. The article also said a Dubai company received an exclusive license to import gold into Pakistan for which Asif Zardari received payments of more than $10M into his Dubai-based Citibank accounts. The owner of the company denied that he had made payments to Zardari and claims the documents were forged.

Bhutto maintained that the charges leveled against her and her husband were purely political.[16][17] "Most of those documents are fabricated," she said, "and the stories that have been spun around them are absolutely wrong." An Auditor General of Pakistan (AGP) report supports Bhutto's claim. It presents information suggesting that Benazir Bhutto was ousted from power in 1990 as a result of a witch hunt approved by then-president Ghulam Ishaq Khan. The AGP report says Khan illegally paid legal advisers 28 million Rupees to file 19 corruption cases against Bhutto and her husband in 1990-92.[18]

The assets held by Bhutto and her husband have been scrutinized. The prosecutors have alleged that their Swiss bank accounts contain £740 million.[19] Zardari also bought a neo-Tudor mansion and estate worth over £4 million in Surrey, England, UK.[20][21] The Pakistani investigations have tied other overseas properties to Zardari's family. These include a $2.5 million manor in Normandy owned by Zardari's parents, who had modest assets at the time of his marriage.[15] Bhutto denied holding substantive overseas assets.

Bhutto and her husband until recently continued to face wide-ranging charges of official corruption in connection with hundreds of millions of dollars of "commissions" on government contracts and tenders. But because of a power-sharing deal brokered in October 2007 between Bhutto and Musharraf, she and her husband had been granted amnesty.[19] If it stands, this development could trigger a number of Swiss banks to 'unlock' accounts that were frozen in the late 1990s.[15][19] The executive order could in principle be challenged by the judiciary, although the judiciary's future was uncertain due to the same recent developments.

Switzerland

On 23 July 1998, the Swiss Government handed over documents to the government of Pakistan which relate to corruption allegations against Benazir Bhutto and her husband.[22] The documents included a formal charge of money laundering by Swiss authorities against Zardari. The Pakistani government had been conducting a wide-ranging inquiry to account for more than $13.7 million frozen by Swiss authorities in 1997 that was allegedly stashed in banks by Bhutto and her husband. The Pakistani government recently filed criminal charges against Bhutto in an effort to track down an estimated $1.5 billion she and her husband are alleged to have received in a variety of criminal enterprises.[23] The documents suggest that the money Zardari was alleged to have laundered was accessible to Benazir Bhutto and had been used to buy a diamond necklace for over $175,000.[24]

The PPP has responded by flatly denying the charges, suggesting that Swiss authorities have been misled by false evidence provided by Islamabad.

On 6 August 2003, Swiss magistrates found Bhutto and her husband guilty of money laundering.[25] They were given six-month suspended jail terms, fined $50,000 each and were ordered to pay $11 million to the Pakistani government. The six-year trial concluded that Bhutto and Zardari deposited in Swiss accounts $10 million given to them by a Swiss company in exchange for a contract in Pakistan. The couple said they would appeal. The Pakistani investigators say Zardari opened a Citibank account in Geneva in 1995 through which they say he passed some $40 million of the $100 million he received in payoffs from foreign companies doing business in Pakistan.[26]

In October 2007, Daniel Zappelli, chief prosecutor of the canton of Geneva, said he received the conclusions of a money laundering investigation against former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto on Monday, but it was unclear whether there would be any further legal action against her in Switzerland. [27]

Poland

The Polish Government has given Pakistan 500 pages of documentation relating to corruption allegations against Benazir Bhutto and her husband. These charges are in regard to the purchase of 8,000 tractors in a 1997 deal.[28][29] According to Pakistani officials, the Polish papers contain details of illegal commissions paid by the tractor company in return for agreeing to their contract.[30] It was alleged that the arrangement "skimmed" Rs 103 mn rupees ($2 million) in kickbacks.[31] "The documentary evidence received from Poland confirms the scheme of kickbacks laid out by Asif Zardari and Benazir Bhutto in the name of (the) launching of Awami tractor scheme," APP said. Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari allegedly received a 7.15 percent commission on the purchase through their front men, Jens Schlegelmilch and Didier Plantin of Dargal S.A., who received about $1.969 million for supplying 5,900 Ursus Tractors.[32]

France

Potentially the most lucrative deal alleged in the documents involved the effort by Dassault Aviation, a French military contractor. French authorities indicated in 1998 that Bhutto's husband, Zardari, offered exclusive rights to Dassault to replace the air force’s fighter jets in exchange for a five percent commission to be paid to a corporation in Switzerland controlled by Zardari.[33]

At the time, French corruption laws forbade bribery of French officials but permitted payoffs to foreign officials, and even made the payoffs tax-deductible in France. However, France changed this law in 2000. [34]

Western Asia

In the largest single payment investigators have discovered, a gold bullion dealer in the Western Asia was alleged to have deposited at least $10 million into one of Zardari's accounts after the Bhutto government gave him a monopoly on gold imports that sustained Pakistan's jewellery industry. The money was allegedly deposited into Zardari's Citibank account in Dubai.

Pakistan's Arabian Sea coast, stretching from Karachi to the border with Iran, has long been a gold smugglers' haven. Until the beginning of Bhutto's second term, the trade, running into hundreds of millions of dollars a year, was unregulated, with slivers of gold called biscuits, and larger weights in bullion, carried on planes and boats that travel between the Persian Gulf and the largely unguarded Pakistani coast.

Shortly after Bhutto returned as prime minister in 1993, a Pakistani bullion trader in Dubai, Abdul Razzak Yaqub, proposed a deal: in return for the exclusive right to import gold, Razzak would help the government regularize the trade. In November 1994, Pakistan's Commerce Ministry wrote to Razzak informing him that he had been granted a license that made him, for at least the next two years, Pakistan's sole authorized gold importer. In an interview in his office in Dubai, Razzak acknowledged that he had used the license to import more than $500 million in gold into Pakistan, and that he had travelled to Islamabad several times to meet with Bhutto and Zardari. But he denied that there had been any corruption or secret deals. "I have not paid a single cent to Zardari," he said.

Razzak claims that someone in Pakistan who wished to destroy his reputation had contrived to have his company wrongly identified as the depositor. "Somebody in the bank has cooperated with my enemies to make false documents," he said.
 
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I'd like more info on her politics. It seems that Musharref is popular with the US and hated in Pakistan. Does anyone know if Musharref was elected democratically or if he had US backing or US-ties business wise?
 
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I'd like more info on her politics. It seems that Musharref is popular with the US and hated in Pakistan. Does anyone know if Musharref was elected democratically or if he had US backing or US-ties business wise?
He rose onto power by staging a military coup in 1999, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Pakistani_coup_d'état

The u.s started oficialy backin him and his regime when they needed an extra chess piece on the board post 9/11 yadadadig? Its a dirty game....
24 hours prior to this assasination $300 mil was signed onto musharrefs administration by g.w.bush.
 
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I'd like more info on her politics. It seems that Musharref is popular with the US and hated in Pakistan. Does anyone know if Musharref was elected democratically or if he had US backing or US-ties business wise?
The U.S. liked Bhutto too. She was far from a gem.

Musharref is a dictator and gained power through a coup. He has backing from the U.S. and China mostly. Pakistan has traditionally been the counter balance in South Asia to India. India used to be allied with the Soviet Union. Pakistan with U.S. & China.
 
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I knew she was a dead woman walking the moment she came back to Pakistan in October. And sure enough, they tried to kill her then too.

I read an Al-Qaeda spokesman in Afghanistan claimed responsibility of her killing, saying she was an American agent. She was definitely a supporter of the US 'War on Terror' so I wouldn't doubt it, but she had plenty of enemies within the state apparatus as well.
 
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Pakistan is a fucking shit hole. At least with Bhutto in office it might have alleviated some of the tension with India. Especially considering that Pakistan has traditionally been first to attack and now are also vying the possibility of a "first use" nuclear tactic.
 
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I read an Al-Qaeda spokesman in Afghanistan claimed responsibility of her killing, saying she was an American agent. She was definitely a supporter of the US 'War on Terror' so I wouldn't doubt it, but she had plenty of enemies within the state apparatus as well.
check it out..
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22985260-12377,00.html


Al-Qaeda denies Bhutto killing


AL-QAEDA linked Pakistani militant Baitullah Mehsud was not involved in the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, his spokesman said.


"He had no involvement in this attack," Mehsud's spokesman Maulvi Omar said by telephone from an undisclosed location.

"This is a conspiracy of the Government, army and intelligence agencies," he said.

"I strongly deny it. Tribal people have their own customs. We don't strike women."

The Pakistan Government has claimed that Mehsud was responsible for Benazir Bhutto's killing as she left an election rally in Rawalpindi on Thursday.

Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema said the Government yesterday recorded an "intelligence intercept" in which Mehsud "congratulated his people for carrying out this cowardly act".

Mr Cheema described Mehsud as an "al-Qaeda leader" and said he was also behind the October 18 bombing against Ms Bhutto's homecoming parade through Karachi that killed more than 140 people.

Mehsud is a commander of pro-Taliban forces in the lawless Pakistani tribal region South Waziristan, where al-Qaeda fighters are also active. His forces often attack Pakistani security forces.

He was recently quoted in a Pakistani newspaper as saying he would welcome Ms Bhutto's return from exile with suicide bombers. Mehsud later denied that in statements to local television and newspaper reporters.

Mr Cheema said Mehsud was "behind most of the recent terrorist attacks that have taken place in Pakistan".

Maulvi Omar said the transcript released by the Government, allegedly of a phone call between Mehsud and a militant discussing Bhutto's death after the fact, was a "drama".

He said it would have been "impossible" for militants to get through the security cordon around the campaign rally where she was killed.

"Benazir was not only a leader of Pakistan but also a leader of international fame. We express our deep grief and shock over her death," Maulvi Omar said.
 
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that broad had so many enemies...
this is the same chick that wholly supported the Taliban during the war..
the same chick who bounced out with millions of govt funds and diverted it to multiple offshore accts..