Painting a playoff picture without Lakers

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May 21, 2002
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I usually don't post cut'n'paste jobs from hacks (it came out yesterday morning) but, this article seemed a lil more weighty after last night's loss to the T-Wolves.


Kobe Bryant, left, and the Lakers hope to shrug off a slow start that has creeped into December.

By Frank Hughes
Special to ESPN.com

Imagine hearing this next season: "Now starting for the Los Angeles Lakers, at center, Shaquille O'Neal, at guard, Kobe Bryant, and at the other guard, LeBron James."

Could happen.

If the Lakers miss the playoffs.

"What?" you say.

Blasphemous.

Stupid.

Downright moronic.

Well, guess what? The season is starting to creep by, the Lakers are sliding deeper into mediocrity and, at some point, it's going to be too late for people to continue saying, "The Lakers will come back."

It is, for most people, a foregone conclusion, but there are a lot of factors that could go into the Lakers becoming only the third team in the history of the league to win an NBA title and miss the playoffs the next season.

And the other two teams had some serious extenuating circumstances.

The first team was the 1968-69 Boston Celtics, the last of the great 11-championships run led by Bill Russell. In the 1969-70 season, Russell, the greatest defensive player of all time, retired, and the Celtics went on to win only 34 games, finishing sixth in the Eastern Division.

The other team was the 1997-98 Chicago Bulls, and Jerry Krause will go down in history as the man who dismantled one of the greatest teams ever for the pure satisfaction of his own ego-massaging. The following season, the Jordan-less, Pippen-less, Rodman-less, Jackson-less Bulls won just 13 games, finishing last in the Central Division -- but, hey, they had a plan, and they still do.

So in a sense, the Lakers missing the playoffs the year after they win a title, in fact three straight titles, with virtually the same team intact and certainly the same two superstars, would be unprecedented. I know, I know, it's difficult to fathom, and you may already have dismissed the notion. But do the math, and you'll see it's not so far-fetched.

Last season, the eighth team in the Western Conference, the Utah Jazz, finished with 44 wins. So let's go by the assumption that you need 44 wins to make the playoffs.

With that in mind, the 10-15 Lakers need to finish the season on a 34-23 tear -- just to get the final spot of the postseason, where, if that happens, we possibly could see a rematch of the Western Conference finals between the Lakers and Sacramento Kings.

34-23. No problem for the three-time world champions, right? Especially now that Shaq is back.

Think again. You know what the Lakers' record is since O'Neal returned to the lineup? 8-8. And it's not like they lost the first eight while they were trying to work in O'Neal. They have not won more than two in a row since Shaq returned. They're not knocking teams over with their dominance.

You know what their road record is? 2-10. And tonight, they begin a tough four-game trip, against Minnesota (13-11), New Jersey (16-8), Philadelphia (15-9) and Toronto (7-16).

Take a pessimistic view and imagine if the Lakers somehow drop three of four on this trip. (NOTE: I wasn't even thinking of posting this until I saw that loss at Minn.) They'd have to finish out the season winning 63 percent of their games to avoid the embarrassment of the lottery and the LeBron Ping-Pong ball derby. They'd have more riots in L.A., but not of the celebratory kind.

As it is, they have to win 59 percent of their games, and they have not been at all successful against teams with winning records. In fact, only three of their 10 victories have come against teams with winning records, including that 30-point comeback against the Dallas Mavericks. Combined, the record of the teams that the Lakers have beaten this season is a paltry 103-133. Take away that win against Dallas, and it is 83-130. World beaters? I don't think so.

What makes this even more scary is that the end of the Lakers' season is going to be against the stronger teams in the Western Conference, where there are 11 legitimate teams that could make the playoffs. The emergence of Yao Ming has made the Houston Rockets a third Texas playoff team; Amare Stoudemire makes the Suns a possibility; Utah rebounded from a poor start to at least give the Jazz the hope of making the postseason for the 20th consecutive season; Portland certainly has the talent, if it can ever stop its boneheaded, off-court antics; and the Los Angeles Clippers have been besieged by injuries, but if they don't fall too far behind, getting back Lamar Odom could make them dangerous.

Could you imagine if the Clippers made the playoffs and the Lakers did not?

Given their recent history, it's certainly hard to discount the Lakers' ability to turn it on when it counts. (NOTE: I'm of this opinion) But the assumption that they can easily rebound from their poor start is also based on the assumption that they will incur no more injuries. Lest we forget, Shaq missed time in each of the past two seasons. And while Bryant played 80 of 82 games last season, he played 68 two years ago and 66 the year before that, so he is not injury-proof.

If one of those two goes down, who is going to step in for them? Samaki Walker? Slava Medvedenko? Horace Grant? Devean George? And it's not like things are exactly rosy there anyway, with Shaq and Kobe sniping at their teammates, their teammates starting to snipe back and Phil Jackson trying to pull teeth out of each player's back.

I am not yet willing to go all the way out on the limb and say there is no way the Lakers are going to make the playoffs. Their championships should at least provide that much respect. All I'm saying is that three guys named Shaq, Kobe and LeBron would be a very interesting team, indeed.
 
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Re: Re: Painting a playoff picture without Lakers

Alkahol_Gone said:
WTF Grant is with Orlando how the fuck could he step in 4 his former team?
Grant was released from Orlando a couple of weeks ago.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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thats actually an old article,done before the mav game..but i guess you can say it has more revelance now....kobe and shaq aint getting no production from thier bench and other players,making it easy for teams to double team and gamble more..thats the only reason thier scoring is bieng held in check...thiers no threat on the outside..even though the lakers have a miserable record right now,they only trail a playoff spot by less than 5 games...and they will make the playoffs,best believe that..there are still 50 + games left,plenty of time..most of thier wins are with teams on thier division like dallas,utah,clippers,portland...teams on the playoff hunt
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Basically you can sum that article to... "The Lakers might not make the playoffs". Deep you have good intensions with posting this article, i can respect the fact that you posess knowledge in sports, something alot of people on here claim to have, but lack severely. A Laker fan can only say so much to numerous threads all saying the Lakers wont make the playoffs, that they suck, or Kobe is over-rated. On the Kobe note, we all know he is not over-rated, and trust me 700 threads from CZAR, BAMMER, MB3 etc isnt going to change anyones mind. Its crystal clear on TV. I think its safe to say the opinions of coaches, players, and sports minds all over the world, who know his skill, are highly more creditable then any Laker Hater on here. As far as the Lakers, again there just a mess right now. It is the same team that won three in a row, and IF they make the playoffs, you know they are still the team to beat. Im just going to sit back and watch how it all plays out, best of luck to the Kings, and every other team. I love this game.
 
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WiCkEd said:
only trail a playoff spot by less than 5 games...and they will make the playoffs,best believe that..there are still 50 + games left,plenty of time..
I feel you on that, but you can't really look at it that way (well atleast i dont). If their percentage remains the same after the all star break, their gonna have a hard time tryin to get back in it. Because thats when players/teams start playin from their hearts.

for example: "where there are 11 legitimate teams that could make the playoffs" Hell yeah I agree with that shit. Those other 3-4 teams are gonna try to smash every team that gets in their way to mark their 8th spot in the playoffs.

the thing that got to me against the T-Wolves game, was why the fuck did everybody give up in the fourth quarter when there was still 6-7 minutes left??? It was only an 16 to 20 point lead. Given up like that and pointen fingers at eachother will get you nowhere but in the loss column.

Where the other LA fans at?
Don't bite your tongue, speak up!

Good lookin out Deep Thought.
 
May 19, 2002
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Damn the more and more I read replys by nitro, I see how more butt hurt he is!! Damn dogg I thought u was a ridah like the rest of us!! But fuck it, if u think u are butt hurt now, then wait until the playoffs start!! OUCH!! GOT EM!!!
 
May 21, 2002
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Props to Nitro and Young Bull. I'm glad you were able to see I wasn't nit-picking at your squad by posting the article. As I noted, the article was only a fleeting notion in my eyes until I saw that loss at Minn. Of course the 'show could go 3-0 the rest of the trip (though not likely) and thus give the commentary a solid body blow. We'll just have to wait and see as Nitro said.

WiCkEd: How can the article have been written prior to the Mav's game when it makes several refrences to it? I didn't see it (the article) online till the 17th. Maybe the article was updated and re-printed, but somehow that doesn't seem like ethically sound journalism on ESPN's part. You also say that there is no outside threat from the Lakers. I thought that was Kobe's job? Their inside-outside game has always been what's got them this far.

The bottom line is something is amiss in LA. They have virtually the same team, but something is clearly broke. Is it a severe case of boredom? Personal issues? Jealousy? Either way, I think it's Phil Jax who's going to have to work his Zen magic afterhours and beyond to pull this team back togther.

Earn your pay Phil, earn your pay.
 
May 19, 2002
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U keep forgetin the difference here! I knew from the top my team wasnt gonna make the playoffs, so I am prepared goin in, but u on the other hand, damn your mighty Fakerz may not make it!! So get the bandages ready for your butt mane!! Cause it will soon feel like u been isolated in a room wit Nasty Nate and his cock-tail-fruit!! GOT EM!!!
 
May 19, 2002
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Naw homie I just speak da real and know what to expect from my team without bein outrageous and expectin to much, then to be let down!! But yall keep sayin what about my Bulls...peep game!!

Chicago 9-16
Fakerz 10-16

Damn what a resemblance, and my team is actually gettin praise for doin coo and bein competitive, while your team is bein constantly critisized for possessin the most selfish player ever!! Haha!! GOT EM!!!
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Just cause the Laker have the most unselfish player in the NBA at SG who has more assists then half the PG's in the NBA you aint gotta cry. What there records are doesnt matter. Its the fact that you aint sayin shit about them. Isnt your whole game to represent your team, as the only time i have seen you give credit is when people do that. Im thinking you dont even like the Bulls, you want off that wagon so bad you bout to change your identity.