Osama Bin Laden - Transcript

[JLMACN]

This is worth reading and pay attention to. Osama is speaking some very strong truths here.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/transcript2.p
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Lets discuss.......

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[ThizzIzWatItWaz]

Osama seems to be a million times smarter than Bush lol. Most of what he says is on point though...

 

[TROLL]

Please Note:

You've requested an ABCNews.com page that does not exist.

 

[Speedy]

Link does not work

 

[Y-S]

it's a .pdf file

 

[the.know.how]

yeah osama made some points, but that fucker is just straight up annoying talking about allah all the time

he seems like an intelligent guy, it's just sad that his intelligence is wasted on believing in a theocratic nation

 

[MzCiN]

so wut was the link i wanna c this shit

 

[the.know.how]

so wut was the link i wanna c this shit

click on the link, but just add "df" to the end of it to make it ".pdf"

 

[TROLL]

yeah osama made some points, but that fucker is just straight up annoying talking about allah all the time

he seems like an intelligent guy, it's just sad that his intelligence is wasted on believing in a theocratic nation

u believe in the conspiracy theory that he was behind 9/11 dont you?

 

[DFresh77]

have you guys seen the video? all his facial hair is black and he looks light skinned...

 

[TOKZTLI]

Because he's in a cave fucking sheep & annoying everyone with the stupidest idea ever of converting the U.S. to Islam.

 

[surcaliman]

have you guys seen the video? all his facial hair is black and he looks light skinned...

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[the.know.how]

u believe in the conspiracy theory that he was behind 9/11 dont you?

lol i dont believe anything unless i find out for myself

you have people saying it was islamo-fascists and you have some saying it was an inside job...both sides have valid points, but all i can say is that it was quite convenient for it to happen so that this government could do what it has done

but then again i dont believe anything unless i find out for myself

 

[TROLL]

so troll, why did the bush regime make him say the things in the transcript?

a better question is..
why are they releasing such old footage and passing it off as new?

as in the case of the july tape?

Senior Admin Official: 'New' Osama Tape First Aired Five Years Ago::
http://newsbusters.org/node/14108

A terrorist website releases a tape of Osama Bin Laden, claiming it's new. And how do the MSM react? By rushing to air it, or in the case of wire services like AP, trumpet it in print. As of 6:30 A.M. EDT this morning, the AP story Bin Laden Appears in New al-Qaida Video was featured on Drudge.

There's only one problem. A senior Bush administration official informs this NewsBuster that:

"intelligence agencies have determined the video was previously aired as a portion of a longer show first on MBC TV (Middle East broadcast station) on April 17, 2002."

"New" Osama Vid? Not!::
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/07/new-osama-vid-n.html

As-Sahab [Al-Qaeda's media wing] produced videos always contain tons of old footage mixed together in documentary style. In fact just a few weeks ago one was released that showed an old video clip of Osama bin Laden. Much like the case for that one this upcoming release reportedly has a 50-second clip of OBL. We do not have final confirmation yet but we believe this clip to be OLD, which means that it was either previously released and is just being reaired or it was recorded awhile ago but never shown till now. Either way in the language of as-Sahab videos a 50-second clip on a 40-minute produced video does not make a "new" Osama bin Laden "video". These videos always have old clips of OBL.

or in september?..

Bin Laden video is compilation of repeats, says expert::
http://www.prisonplanet.com/120903binladentape.htm

But a French terrorism expert cautioned yesterday against taking the video at face value. Roland Jacquard, head of the International Observatory on Terrorism based in Paris, told French radio that it was mostly a collection of old footage and soundtracks which have been aired.

"Given that Osama bin Laden has not appeared on a video cassette for many months, it is pretty incomprehensible that in the only video cassette where he appears beside Ayman al-Zawahiri he doesn't speak, he just allows the latter to speak," Mr Jacquard said.

and if you think its something new, let me remind you what the washington post stated bout al-zarqawi..
Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi::
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890_pf.html

The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist.

how about we take a look at al-qaidas media 'middle men' (intelcenter)

Intel center is run by Ben Venzke, who is an interesting character. A google search results in the revelation that he used to be the director of intelligence at a company called IDEFENSE, which is a verisign company. IDEFENSE is a web security company that monitors intelligence from the middle east conflicts and focuses on cyber threats among other things.

It is also heavily populated with long serving ex military intelligence officials.

The Director of Threat intelligence, Jim Melnick, served 16 years in the US army and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and worked in psychological operations. From the IDEFENSE website:

Prior to joining iDefense, Mr. Melnick served with distinction for more than 16 years in the U.S. Army and the Defense Intelligence Agency. During this period, Mr. Melnick served in a variety of roles, including psychological operations, international warning issues with emphasis on foreign affairs and information operations and Russian affairs. He also served in active political/military intelligence roles with an emphasis on foreign affairs. Mr. Melnick is currently a U.S. Army Reserve Colonel with Military Intelligence, assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Mr. Melnick has been published in numerous military and foreign affairs journals, and has received numerous military and DIA awards. Mr. Melnick has a Master of Arts in National Security and Strategic Studies from the U.S. Naval War College, a Master of Arts in Russian studies from Harvard University, and a Bachelor of Arts with Honors in Political Science from Westminster College.

So here we have a company that by it's own admission has a senior military psy-op intelligence officer who has worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld. As Intelcenter and Ben Venzke are directly connected to IDEFENSE, this puts Rumsfeld 3 small steps away from the Al Qaeda propaganda videos.

again why did he claim 911?

again.. why didnt he??


Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks::
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

"I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said.

 

[MzCiN]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Skizzy Ske]

good read

 

[TROLL]

@troll

no this is something your position cannot reconcile. answer my question, dont create one that is easy for you to answer.

Your question? "why did the bush regime make him say the things in the transcript"?

ok, since motives spoken from a third party are most often assumptions, I assume the motive is to perpetuate fear..

its your stance that the transcript isnt real, so then i ask, why did they pretend that he says such things?

show me where i said the transcript isnt real... just because he may not have had a hand in 9/11 doesnt mean that he can't still hate the united states.. in case you haven't noticed, we are not the most favorable in the world..

and pick and choose all the little excerpts you want, show me where the latest video is using previous footage. he mentions recent events does he not?

Recent as in how long ago? months? how long has he not been seen? 3 years?
you want me to show proof now now now, yet when i mention anything its on to the next question..

and as far as the past videos, the reason you dont want to admit they were old shit passed off as new is because once you confront the reality that there has been underhanded dealings on the part of the united states in the 'war on terror' your assumption that the U.S is the victim comes crashing down like a house of cards in a wind storm..

and so when he claims responsibility in 2004 you are sure this is fake, but when you see quotes that says he doesnt claim it you feed on them like suckling infant.

you are far more a leech for any little shred of info that points into his direction, in utter obliviousness of the others.. because you have set in your mind already what you believe and claw for anything to help support it..

the difference between us is that you pretend you are so sure because you have already made the decision while i recognize that such a thing is not so easily discernable.

I dont pretend to know everything, on the contrary, im asking questions because i have came to the conclusion that WE DONT know what really happend and am soaking up as much info as i can... while, here you are, trying fruitlessly to belittle my stance.. because its contrary to yours.. and yet, you have the gall to say that i have a conclusion already set in MY mind? I am doing my own research while you graze like a bovine on what is published by our so called 'elected leaders'. the biggest diffrence between us is that i am not scared to confront a reality that doesnt come standard equiped with a saftey blanket..

if not then tell me, why do you believe one thing and not the other, one source over the other, what makes you so certain?

thats an easy one...

proof bin laden was behind 9/11, this big (_____)
proof it was orchestrated from within, this big (_______________)

why arent you asking yourself this same question? why are YOU so set in your ways that you choose to come in here and send a barrage of questions in my direction knowing damn well any answer i give wont even get a second look?

 

[TROLL]

lol i dont believe anything unless i find out for myself

you have people saying it was islamo-fascists and you have some saying it was an inside job...both sides have valid points, but all i can say is that it was quite convenient for it to happen so that this government could do what it has done

but then again i dont believe anything unless i find out for myself

i respect that.

 

[I AM]

so troll, why did the bush regime make him say the things in the transcript? again why did he claim 911?

are you referring to the transcipt from this video or a previous one? if you're talking about one that's from a previous video do you really know he said it? do you really know that the person translating it speaks the language accurately?

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Alot of very valid questions and answers in this thread. I agree with the.know.how on situations, know one REALLY knows what happened, excpet the people INVOLVED. We are all OUTSIDERS trying to look IN on the situation and only have "heresay" to go on.