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WHY RAW HAS BECOME SO REPETITIVE AT THE TOP OF THE CARD
by Dave Scherer @ 2009-07-29 10:04:53


Tom Robson sent the following.

I did a bit of digging around this morning and came up with this terrifying piece of information. In the last five years (starting with the first PPV after SummerSlam 2004, when Orton won the belt for the first time), some combination of Randy Orton, John Cena, and Triple H have wrestled against each other TWENTY-FOUR TIMES. That includes singles, tag, and multi-man matches, but not Royal Rumbles.

That means Cena-Orton at SummerSlam will be the 25th match in the last five years featuring some combo of these three against each other.

Well, what can I say to that other than it explains why it feels like we keep getting the same thing over and over on Raw. It's because we ARE getting the same thing over and over on Raw.
 
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by:Dave Scherer

In response to an article we had yesterday about how Triple H, John Cena and Randy Orton have dominated the top of the cards since 2004, Shaun Corbett sent this, which is even more telling about the redundancy they have at the top of Raw.

Even worse than the numbers Tom Robson sent in is that during that time, the three of them have missed almost a combined three years of ring time (I count at least 13 months for Orton, 14 for Triple H, and 7 months for Cena), and only two of the three have been on the same brand for 3 of those 5 years, given the alternating brand PPVs . So that means these numbers are even worse than he reported because presumably if they had all been available more, we would have seen more matches between them.

Showing that I have way too much time on my hands, I went back and looked. In the time frame referenced, there were 51 events with at least two of them on the PPV, and some combination of the three wrestled 28 times on those 51 PPV’s. Even worse, and the main reason we are all so tired of combination is that since SummerSlam 2007, there have been 26 eligible PPVs, with 17 matches involving this threesome.

By the way, these numbers get really nasty if you add Shawn Michaels and Batista to the mix. Just using those same 51 PPVs, some mixture of Cena, Orton, Triple H, Shawn Michaels or Batista have wrestled and main- evented on 44 of those 51 shows (actually a lot more since I did not count multiple matches on the same PPV).

And WWE wonders why buy rates are down.
 
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i used to always order wrestlemania no matter what...but after this past years wrestlemania ppv, im gonna be alot more hesitant to order it....if it wasnt for undertake/hbk that shit wouldve flopped bad...
 
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SC_408 said:
i used to always order wrestlemania no matter what...but after this past years wrestlemania ppv, im gonna be alot more hesitant to order it....if it wasnt for undertake/hbk that shit wouldve flopped bad...
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for real i fell asleep during the triple h and orton match, the only thing besides hbk and taker was the steamboat and jericho match, only at the end though
 
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YEA IM FUCKIN SICK OF ORTON CENA AND TRIPLE H, SAME BULLSHIT EVERY WEEK ORTON COMES OUT AND SAYS HES THE BEST THEN LEGASCY DOES HIS DIRTY WORK AS CENA AND TRIPLE H BEAT THERE ASS, THERE IS NO STORY LINE AND NOBODY ELSE GETTING A PUSH, TNA LATELY HAS BEEN WAY BETTER THOUGH, LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO DO A NWO TYPE THING WITH THE MEM, ONLY IF TNA HAD BETTER PRESENTATION THEY COULD BE KILLIN IT
 
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TNA's theme music for all the wrestlers sound cheap as fuck too...lol sounds like it was made in the snes days or some shit idk
 
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If you can't keep me interested when you have guys like Nash, Angle, Foley, Tazz etc, you have a problem. Last time I watched that show I saw one guy who was trying to be Stone Cold, another who was supposed to be Macho Man, Abyss (who is a mankind rip-off) and god knows what else. Oh yeah Kevin Nash was giving advice to other wrestlers from a fucking bathroom stall that was supposed to be his office... What the fucking fuck?

I know that was a while ago... I tried again when Foley went to TNA. Dude is my fav wrestler, and I turned the show off 6 mins into it, it was so horrible.
 
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Yeah... And the NWO turned into 30 mins of annoying music and camera filters and bullshit e very episode.

"Hey the NWO is here, I have 35 minutes to smoke a blunt, jack off, and wash the dishes while they dismantle the set and let a little kid click the sound board options at random while their music plays."

No thank you.
 
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Thats why in the old days of wrestling you wouldn't see the world champ headlining every single episode. When i was a kid you would probably see hogan on TV like once or twice a month and he only wrestled on Pay per views. Nowadays every raw and smackdown has matches they would put on a PPV and it kills the urge to watch. Cena and Orton has been a main event in like 5 PPVs in the last few years same with Orton and HHH or HHH and Cena and Batista.

They need to unify all of the titles and have the champs do cameos on all of the shows to build them up and whoop up high caliber PPV matches. they need to not have a pay per view EVERY month to maybe like 6 tops a year and replace the filler PPVs with SNMEs on network TV, put higher caliber matches on that show main eventer tag matches and stuff like that. They would probably make more money on ad time than they would on PPV sales and would build up excitment for PPV main events.



Back in the old days the tv broadcasts focused more on the mid carders and maybe thats why the IC and tag team belts seemed more important than they are now. Plus there were only 4 ppvs a year which gave the creative more time to build up the excitement for big matches.
 
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Thats why in the old days of wrestling you wouldn't see the world champ headlining every single episode. When i was a kid you would probably see hogan on TV like once or twice a month and he only wrestled on Pay per views. Nowadays every raw and smackdown has matches they would put on a PPV and it kills the urge to watch.
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Would you tune in to watch mid-carders wrestle no-name jobbers?

I doubt it.

They would probably make more money on ad time than they would on PPV sales
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Hell no. Trust me, if it would make more money for the company, they would be doing it.
 
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I agree with GHP. They have way too many PPVs as well. And way too many wrestling shows. They should just have raw, scratch ecw and smackdown. And have superstars and another show to recap for the week.
Do we wanna see them wrestle jobbers every week? No. Do we want to see a variety of matches, feuds, and storylines? Yes! I think by cutting the ppvs and brands that would happen. Only ppvs they should have are royal rumble, wrestlemania, king of the ring, summerslam, survivor series, and armageddon. That's it. Imo.
 
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i agree with most of that ^^^ but i think IMO ecw could have alotta potential if they just make it entirely diff from smackdown and raw...they could make every match a special stipulation type of thing, make it live up to its name or somethin or since smackdown/raw are more pg they could make it more of an attitude era type feel too it...
 
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