OK!!! WHAT YALL GOTTA SAY NOW???
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everything you just said is subjective opinion posed as fact. it's a very objective assessment to characterize lil b as both post-modern and abstract. creative genius is something that is in the eye of the beholder, but it's not a very far stretch for those that are equipped to admit that lil b has flashes of brilliance on both a micro and macro level in both his creative output and persona.
everything i said made complete sense. the common model of rap music (especially in the bay area, but) regardless of its origin is largely based on literalism and adhesion to convention. lil b's music is not. it's not a difficult path to follow and all the breadcrumbs are there for you to follow.
and i'll act like lil b is the first artist to abstract from what's considered normal if i want to. but i didn't, so stop putting words in my mouth.
and i'll act like lil b is the first artist to abstract from what's considered normal if i want to. but i didn't, so stop putting words in my mouth.
post-modernism encompasses abstract works and qualities. You're right, creative genius and brilliance are subjective, and I have to disagree with your stance about his brilliance, the reasons being: They're hackneyed, artists and hipsters have done ironic "shitty", ultra-swag rap for a while, his style is bitten from what hipsters, skaters have worn for the past 7-10 years, even the pen and pixel album covers have been traded and collected by hipsters for the past 5-6 years, along with alot of other things he is doing. We have to determine brilliance, and to me, in order for something to be brilliant it has to have a good amount of originality, or a big flip on original material to where it still works but is almost something different.
For those who aren't familiar with other sub-groups and music they might feel intimidated, angry i.e. Siccness cats, or be like "wOw! OMG thiS GaiZ a gEnius!!!!!!" or you can be someone who's well aware of alot of things and nod your head to some of the aspects he's been able to touch on bring to the forefront but know he's a mockery of a mockery, and that's when shit is just sloppy.
For those who aren't familiar with other sub-groups and music they might feel intimidated, angry i.e. Siccness cats, or be like "wOw! OMG thiS GaiZ a gEnius!!!!!!" or you can be someone who's well aware of alot of things and nod your head to some of the aspects he's been able to touch on bring to the forefront but know he's a mockery of a mockery, and that's when shit is just sloppy.
Also, if you want to compare painters/painting and such, we like picasso because we know he also had the technical skill to paint photorealisitc classic shit, but the culture and insight to look at african sculpture and render it on a canvas. Warhol, started off with nudes and other classic photo-realistic art, but he had the brain and cultural acumen to tak pop-culture and make brilliant pop-art pieces. Basquiat took from so many pop references, and made this grand pieces unlike any other artist of the time. But all tis people were skilled, didn't rely on gimmicks, and made old material into something new and fresh ON THEIR OWN .
lil b could get popped tomorrow and it'd be all game whether you did it or someone else did it. to take it a step further... mac dre too, i didn't know that man but logic prevails in saying that if you out here doing shit that gets your car flipped someone might have had a reason to do it that meant a lot to them and they took the initiative.
lots of people viewed warhol's and basquiat's work as shallow (i don't), especially while they were alive and in the era in which they were producing it. that's why this argument is predicated on a rationale that is incapable of accurately ascertaining the larger relevance of lil b. people are probably having the exact same conversation about lady gaga, and the dialog would be handicapped by the same variables.