NYPD fights the new black panther movement..

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Gas One

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(Your not gonna hear about this on the news, but you know that aint nothing new… what the proverb say…"Until lions have historians, hunters will always be heroes.
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I was marching with the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement (MXGM) prior to The New Black Panther Party's (NBPP) participation this past Sunday at the African Parade in Harlem. Everything was going beautifully; it was well-organized, and alive with festivities rich in Pan African culture.


All the sudden, a brutal attack on several NBPP members was carried out by the NYPD.


Now, let me make this clear about the NYPD's purpose at the parade: Participants in the parade were in the middle of the street and the police are required to stay on the sidelines to keep audience out of the street, not run in the middle of the street and start beating people who are part of the parade.


Apparently, they had a different agenda as we were nearing the end of our march. An NYPD officer was literally stomping on a NBPP member's head while other members were trying to save him but ended up catching the similar fate while the NYPD simultaneously began knocking cameras down, forming a circular blockade around the beatings, doubling the latter block up again to prevent clear composed shots of the incident for witnesses to this atrocity.


Juxtaposed to this scene, a group of kids started dancing, shouting "Black Power", obviously not fully understanding that these human beings are unjustifiably receiving capital punishment for representing the continuing effort for Black empowerment at this parade. It dawned on me at that moment, that this brutal treatment is not abnormal for them (and I'm sure for many others) rather a joke to be danced around. It wasn't fully their fault; I can go on all day about the factors that lead to this mentality and I'm sure you can too but watching them carry on made me feel helpless, angry and determined to keep pushing at the same time...we are in a lot of trouble and incidents like this definitely calls for a mass movement to uproot. There were 20,000 people at the parade, marching peacefully, not effectively prepared to protect ourselves legally and physically from the NYPD's lashing out. With their guns ready, Billy clubs and combat boots, the NYPD threw some of the NBPP members in the police van.
20,000! I cannot stress enough the need to organize as a continuing process!

After the police took off with the publically victimized NBPP members, the remaining NBPP members along with the MXGM headed straight for the nearest precinct to see about the members' welfare (and in case you're wondering, the parade continued, while the police were all over the place looking for more "work" and yes, they brought out the dogs too; it was chaotic but apparently not "abnormal" for others, as more chaos ensued).


The NBPP lined in front of the precinct as we waited on the side. Yes, 20,000 people were there but only a handful of us and the remaining NBPP were concerned about this issue enough to walk away from the festivities and silently post in front of the 32nd precinct.


Alarmingly, we encountered two passersby who wanted to put their two cents(less) in saying," Ya'll wilding out yo, what? This ain't no Malcolm X movie, ya'll lining up like this is the movie or somethin', ain't no cameras out here son, ya'll wilding out.
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So if you are in NY this Sunday and can free yourself briefly from your morning responsibilities, please come and "wild out" in concern for these young political prisoners at 100 Centre st, Part F, Manhatten/ 9 a.m. These are hard times not just for us as a people but for this country as a whole. This country is reaping what it has sown; we must persistently build, edify, (re)define and strengthen our support for one another en route for liberation on all fronts.


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New Black Panther Party is a front for the NOI.

Fuck them. They tarnish the name of the real BPP.

Now, let me make this clear about the NYPD's purpose at the parade: Participants in the parade were in the middle of the street and the police are required to stay on the sidelines to keep audience out of the street, not run in the middle of the street and start beating people who are part of the parade.
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What are they doing in a parade anyway? They are so fucking lame.
 

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the NYPD? being general nuisances.... as they are paid to be en masses...seems like anything associated with activism gets the whole force in riot gear..

why do you call it a front for the NOI? I'm obviously not a mind reader but i would think that theres a good percentage of people who might be legitimate, obviously surrounded by bandwagoners..
 
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the NYPD? being general nuisances.... as they are paid to be en masses...seems like anything associated with activism gets the whole force in riot gear..
No the NBPP. They are supposed to provide security for the people not prance around looking chic pumping fists. And if they are going to march it should be disciplined & they should still have security detail.


why do you call it a front for the NOI? I'm obviously not a mind reader but i would think that theres a good percentage of people who might be legitimate, obviously surrounded by bandwagoners..
  • It is quite a give away given its foundation

  • The NOI has moderated significantly in the past decade or so (this is obviously part of a concerted effort to broaden it’s base and gain wider acceptance and legitimacy)

  • History tells us so. Small revolutionary/underground movement coupled with a broader above ground movement. Cuba, Ireland, Colombia, U.S.A., Vietnam, etc, etc.
 

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btw i think thats true. but i would suport the panthers although i would not support islam. so if i was to go to harlem and be part of this movement i doubt id be a sore thumb.

however

i suppose i support islam in the ideal that any sort of knowledge or intellectual thought can have some sort of value.

cuz i believe some shit from islam but i wouldnt consider myself islamic, or muslim, at any point..even though ive read the quaran and all

i mean, i guess. but theres some people that grow up pro-black and look at the panthers as a new fountain of black advancement

of course i dont wanna get into no argument and thats prolly why it took so long to reply because honestly, i agree with everything you say so there shouldnt be.

but we shouldnt take away from the young black folks that dont understand the whole connection and are kinda focused on the homefront.

i guess if the roots are from a certain thing youre going to get bombarded with it. i see where youre coming from. but a front..i dunno...maybe...like saying g unit records is a front for interscrope...haha..bad comparison but you know.

has there been any talk about the 'new black panthers' in this forum? i dont check it too often.
 
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It is important to remember than the surviving original leaders of the Black Panther Party For Self Defense do not support the NBPP. In fact they've sued the NBPP for using their name.


There is a major difference between:



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true that
not sure if i can blame times for changing though

atleast out of fear if anything

although im not particularly cued into the whole politics of what might have happened after the black panther parties demise and who considered it the great idea to bring it back
 
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is it revisionist for me to think of the BPP as more than a black movement but as more of a movement for THE PEOPLE? when i think of the panthers i think of when huey said they relate to all opressed peoples of the world