NW RAPPERS EXCHANGE BULLETS

[Bullet]

MAN YALL BE LOVING DRAMA...SINCE I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD MY MUSIC, I AM GIVING YOU THE INVITATION....I DID A SONG ABOUT ABORTION.....SOMETHING NO RAPPER HAS DONE...I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THE BEAT, THE HOOK, THE RAPPING, THE SUBJECT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE...I WANT FEEDBACK, GOOD AND BAD....I CAN HANDLE BEING CRITIQUED, I JUST DON'T LIKE IT WHEN I THINK ITS COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO REALLY AINT GAVE THE MUSIC A CHANCE...

THE SONG IS TITLED .....SORRY

TO HEAR IT...WWW.MP3.COM/EASTSIDE_RECORDS

AS LONG AS YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE SONG, I WANT TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK, EVEN IF IT IS BULLET ITS GARBAGE...JUST EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK THAT, LIKE IT IS FEEDBACK AND NOT A FUCK BULLET SESSION...

 

[Purebred Hogg]

Sorry Bullet...Tech N9ne already beat ya to it...he did a song about abortion on his album "anjHELLic" about 2 years ago....

 

[Night Shield]

The song is real solid. I'm feeling it, Arjay laces the end of the track too. Subject matter, flow, beat everything was on point. The album should be real tight from what I've heard of it so far.

 

[EvilWayz]

...Tech N9ne already beat ya to it...he did a song about abortion on his album "anjHELLic" about 2 years ago....

ya beat me too it.........i wuz gonna point that out :devious:

 

[45Yr Old Virgin]

didn't common sense do a song abotu abortion like in 98?

 

[Bullet]

I WILL HAVE TO CHECK THE TECH 9 SONG OUT....I WASN'T AWARE OF IT...

SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK MY SONG ....SORRY

 

[Mr. Samos]

The song is nice Bullet, beat is fluent, ya presence is smooth on it and the singer is real nice, good stuff mang, good content here

pz

 

[Sonny Bonoho]

Bullet. This song was good. Laidback. Was your message going towards positive. Eventhough somebody already wrote or have a song about abortion. Who cares, you have a freedom to talk about your experience. And if the song is true, the baby is heaven waiting to see you!

 

[Sonny Bonoho]

I like it!

Bullet. This song was good. Laidback. Was your message going towards positive. Eventhough somebody already wrote or have a song about abortion. Who cares, you have a freedom to talk about your experience. And if the song is true, the baby is in heaven waiting to see you!
Last ?: ummmm, are you against abortion? cuz, it be dope that you are against abortion & this song can be a good encouragement for a women not to do it.

 

[Bullet]

Re: I like it!

Bullet. This song was good. Laidback. Was your message going towards positive. Eventhough somebody already wrote or have a song about abortion. Who cares, you have a freedom to talk about your experience. And if the song is true, the baby is in heaven waiting to see you!
Last ?: ummmm, are you against abortion? cuz, it be dope that you are against abortion & this song can be a good encouragement for a women not to do it.

good question folks....you know i never believed in god, for the first 25 years of my life...after i barried my grandma the person closest to me, that view slowly changed...

i am against abortion, and don't believe as people we were given the right to take any form of life...but as people we aren't perfect, and neither is life...i can't tell people what is right for them or what to believe...seeing that i didn't always believe what i believe now...

i do hope women take the chance to listen to the song...and try to see a mans point of view on the subject...

the real story behind the song is actually a real story...i stood behind a women, as a man, and was supportive emotionally and financially....she wanted to have thee abortion...i didn't....but regardless, i stood behind her...after it was over we parted ways...not to bad, not to good....then she decides to run my name into the dirt with all of her people...blatent lies....she did in hopes her friends and people wouldn't be cool with me therefor they wouldn't speak to me....she always feared that people may find out that she had thee abortion....to be a man and be responsible i took part in a lot shit i wasn't cool with...just so i could leave the relationship knowing i did what i could...the fact she lied and slung insults about my charactor and morals...is why the song was made.....that is also the reason everything i'm saying isn't so nice in the song....

thanks for all the feedback, if anyone has opinions on the song i'd like to hear them...

@ Sonny bonoho....hit me up in the eastside records forum @ raptalk.net

one,

bullet

 

[THA_206]

That shit was fuckin real... I liked it a lot.. I fealt your pain..

 

[Sick Wid It]

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THE BEAT, THE HOOK, THE RAPPING, THE SUBJECT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE...I WANT FEEDBACK, GOOD AND BAD....

The Beat:
Didn't move me. The only thing that stood out about it was that it sounds like a zillion other beats I've heard. If people are going to use played out sounds, they should atleast try to be creative with them.

The Hook:
The singing is very stale. She needs to sharpen up on her tones and come up with a better melody. Honestly, she needs a lot of work before I would even consider using her on a hook. If you need a singer, don't use people who can't sing.

The Rapping:
It doesn't seem like you really feel what you're saying. It sounds more like you are reading the lyrics from a book rather than sounding real heart-felt. If you are going to rap about emotional stuff then you should convince your listeners that you mean what you say. I don't hear the pain or anger in your voice that your words are expressing.

The Subject:
I have no real opinion on the subject matter. Abortion was never really a hot topic for me but I don't knock the people who feel differently or are sensative about it. If you really need/want to speak on something then thats what you should do. You will always find somebody who really feels where you're coming from so unless you're rappin' about something completely stupid, I guess you can't go wrong.

Everything Else:
I would like to think that this isn't your best material by far but if it is, that's okay. Would I buy this? No. Would it get play-time in my cd player? No. It's by far not the worse I've ever heard just as it's by far not the best either. If you're a beginner then it's acceptable. If you just wanted to make the song for you then that's fine too. I don't see the cut making Billboard's Top 200 list though.

Now let's try something different for a change Bullet. What you you think of the song? How, if at all, do you think the song could be 'better'?

 

[Mr. D-Sane]

Now that right there^^^^is "constructive criticism" folks. Do you like Torrey Wards stuff Sick Wid It? Just curious.

@Bullet - I'm not really feelin' this track either....sorry bro. I think it could have been presented better. Like if you didn't tell me that it was about abortion.....I would have never figured it out. The hook doesn't do it for me at all either.

Also.....does Torrey not like to do any editing? I've noticed in several tracks that he's done that he leaves shit the way it is. Like on the hype tracks.....you happen to be a little late with your timing.....I would go in there and edit it to put in time....thus creating much smoother vocals. But he just leaves them the way it is.....why is that?

 

[Sick Wid It]

Now that right there^^^^is "constructive criticism" folks. Do you like Torrey Wards stuff Sick Wid It? Just curious.

He didn't make the beat to this song did he? If so, I hope he was pissy drunk or something when he did cuz I would expect way better from him.

Anyways.. Some of his stuff I've heard was decent, some I wasn't really diggin'. Is he capable of doing a tight beat? I think so. Is he consistent at it? I don't know, I would have to hear more of his stuff.

Also.....does Torrey not like to do any editing? I've noticed in several tracks that he's done that he leaves shit the way it is. Like on the hype tracks.....you happen to be a little late with your timing.....I would go in there and edit it to put in time....thus creating much smoother vocals. But he just leaves them the way it is.....why is that?

I don't work with Torry Ward so I can't speak on his work but people who are lazy and sloppy get no props from me.... Whether it's just some quick money for you or whatever, your work represents you. Producer, musician, engineer, singer, rapper, whatever the fuck you do, your work is your worth. People do half-ass shit, cut corners and be lazy....and then claim the whole world is sleeping on them when the truth is they haven't done anything to earn any real recognition in the first place.

 

[Mr. D-Sane]

He didn't make the beat to this song did he? If so, I hope he was pissy drunk or something when he did cuz I would expect way better from him.

Yup....that's T. Ward on the credits bro.

 

[The Miracle]

@ D-Sane
Do you have some sort of issue with Torry? Because it seems as though you are trying to take some jabs at him or something. For your information, Torry didn't do anything except produce the music on that track. Bullet took that song and mixed it somewhere else, and recorded the vocals with someone else as well. The other version of the song that featured Frost and Jay Tee was better then the abortion song. You aren't the all knowing producer, and all of your work isn't some perfect godly creation. If you have some sort of issue with Bosko or Torry, you need to put it on the table, because you have been constantly attempting to take jabs at them. Why are you trying to get people to root against Torry, or create some campaighn against him? There is alot of shit that I could get on here and say about the production that I have heard from you, but that isn't my job. Respect our work, and we will respect yours. Before you get on here attempting to try to make somebody look like they are doing bad work, you need to check who did all of the work. Bullet had someone else engineer and mix that. Torry is one of the hottest producers out here, and deserves that respect. You don't know what you are talking about on this one bro. I know that you talk to Bullet, and I'm sure that he has told you about his issues with Torry, but there is no place on here for you to attempt to make my nigga look bad. Respect the game, and quit coming with these low key tactics to discredit other artists and producers out here. We have been doing this shit for many moons, and are skilled at this shit, but I think that shit up above is out of place. Are you trying to compare yourself to Torry, are you trying insinuate that his work is of less-quality then yours? You spoke on some shit that you weren't fully informed about.

@ Bullet
You need to set the record straight on this one, regardless of your personal feelings about Torry. He has given you some BLAZING shit, and I'm sure that is something that we won't have to argue about.

 

[Mr. D-Sane]

@ D-Sane
Do you have some sort of issue with Torry? Because it seems as though you are trying to take some jabs at him or something. For your information, Torry didn't do anything except produce the music on that track. Bullet took that song and mixed it somewhere else, and recorded the vocals with someone else as well. The other version of the song that featured Frost and Jay Tee was better then the abortion song. You aren't the all knowing producer, and all of your work isn't some perfect godly creation. If you have some sort of issue with Bosko or Torry, you need to put it on the table, because you have been constantly attempting to take jabs at them. Why are you trying to get people to root against Torry, or create some campaighn against him? There is alot of shit that I could get on here and say about the production that I have heard from you, but that isn't my job. Respect our work, and we will respect yours. Before you get on here attempting to try to make somebody look like they are doing bad work, you need to check who did all of the work. Bullet had someone else engineer and mix that. Torry is one of the hottest producers out here, and deserves that respect. You don't know what you are talking about on this one bro. I know that you talk to Bullet, and I'm sure that he has told you about his issues with Torry, but there is no place on here for you to attempt to make my nigga look bad. Respect the game, and quit coming with these low key tactics to discredit other artists and producers out here. We have been doing this shit for many moons, and are skilled at this shit, but I think that shit up above is out of place. Are you trying to compare yourself to Torry, are you trying insinuate that his work is of less-quality then yours? You spoke on some shit that you weren't fully informed about.

Nutz.....why do you keep coming at me like this? It's almost like you're trying to start something with me with these silly accusations of me trying to take "jabs" at your people. I respect EVERYBODY.....until they disrespect me. Then it's whatever. You're trying to read into something that's not there. So leave it alone. If I had something bad to say about Bosko or Torry.....I would just come right on out and say it. No need for me to bite my tongue......I'm known for talkin' shit, right? Isn't that the popular thing that everyone likes to say about me? That I have a "smart mouth"? For the last time.....I don't have a problem with Bosko or his work.....I don't have a problem with Torry or his work.....and if I did.....I would say it. Ain't no hatin' from me.....and on a sidenote.....I'm lovin' the beat Torry gave Dividenz for their album! I shook the mans hand and showed him the respect he deserves when I met him.....ain't nothing changed. Same with Bosko. We may disagree on some things.....but you accusing me of trying to belittle them is crazy.

Now....thank you for clearing that up about Bullet recording that somewhere else (I don't know why he didn't?). I just automatically assumed that Torry recorded it.....and I'm not really knowing if Bullet has issues with Torry. I think I may know what you're referring to......but that's definitely NOT my business and we haven't discussed it behind the scenes. The reason I asked about Torry was.....the track that Dividenz came down there and did with you....*I think* could have had some editing done to it to clean up some of the hype tracks. That's my *opinon*....people do things differently......I understand that. So to answer your question......do I think I'm above him? Nope. Do I think I'm below him? Nope. We're all out here doing our thing bro......he does what he does....I do what I do.....you do what you do. I would have just done it *differently*.

So are we going to let the bullshit die.....or are you trying to turn this into an issue? I'm tired of arguing with you (which is why I never called you back) and explaining myself when I shouldn't have to. Nobody else thinks I'm takin' jabs at these cats.....so why do you?

So are you gonna trip on Sick Wid It for saying that he hopes Torrey was pissy drunk when he made that beat? I thought the beat was cool. Obviously he didn't.

 

[Bullet]

@ Bullet
You need to set the record straight on this one, regardless of your personal feelings about Torry. He has given you some BLAZING shit, and I'm sure that is something that we won't have to argue about.

HOW THE FUCK AM I BEING BROUGHT IN THIS..I ASKED FOR FEEDBACK ON THE SONG, NOT ABOUT T.WARD...

NOW SOMEBODY ASKED ME WHAT I THOUGHT OF MY OWN SONG...

HONESTLY THE NEW MIX WE PUT ON THE BEAT REALLY GAVE ME A NEW EXCITEMENT ON THE BEAT...AND FELT LIKE IT BROUGHT OUT THE TRUE HEAT THAT TORY DID MAKE...

I THINK THE SUBJECT & CONCEPT IS CLASSIC FOR A RAP SONG...D-SANE MENTIONED HE HAD A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT IT WAS ABOUT ABORTION...IF YOU LISTEN AGAIN I DID THIS ON PURPOSE..THE FIRST VERSE NEVER MENTIONS IT, BUT IT DOES PERTAIN WITH MY PERSONAL SITUATION...THAT DID OCCUR...THE SONG IS A SONG MEANT TO INSULT THE WOMEN...THEREFOR IF YOU DON'T KNOW HER NOT EVERY PART MAKES SINCE...IF I COULD CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SONG THAT WOULD BE IT... I THINK FOR LYRICALLY I SAID WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, AND DON'T THINK THE RAPPING IS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BAD...THE HOOK, ARJAY BLEW THE GIRL OUT THE WATER, AND SANG HIS PART WITH INTENSITY...I DON'T FEEL THE GIRL IS A BAD SINGER, BUT I DON'T THINK SHE IS THE GREATEST EITHER...I WORK WITH 2 GUY SINGERS, NOT FEMALE SINGERS..THE WORDS AND MELODY TO THE HOOK, I THINK ARE FIRE... THINK ABOUT IT...THE TOPIC IS ABORTION...

IN HIS EYES I WILL NEVER BE sorry sorry...IF YOU THINK OF WHAT SHE IS SINGING THE MEANING IS THERE... ITS LIKE SINGING TO A CAT WHO KILLED YOUR BROTHER...YOU WILL NEVER BE SORRY ON SOME IF U DIE TOMMAROW I WILL CELEBRATE TYPE SHIT.

DIFFERENT ARTISTS LIKE OR DISLIKE SONGS THEY HAVE DONE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS....PERSONALLY I LIKE THIS ONE BECAUSE IT IS MY LIFE, MY SITUATION, ON A SUBJECT YOU DON'T HEAR RAP SONGS ABOUT TO OFTEN... ON A 1 TO 5 NUTZ SCALE...I THINK IT IS A 4, AND NO LESS THAN A 3.75...

NOW I WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW I'M HAPPY YOU GAVE ME YOUR TIME AND FEEDBACK, I THINK ITS REAL LOVE THAT YALL TOOK THE TIME TO HEAR THE SONG AND SHOWED SOME SUPPPORT...I RESPECT YOUR OPINION, LIKE I HOPE YALL RESPECT MINE...I DON'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO LIKE EVERTYHING I DO...

BULLET

 

[Mr. D-Sane]

Uh.....did I miss something? Kinda seems like you're trippin' for no reason.

I assumed that Torry recorded your song because he did the beat and appeared in the credits. There were some hypes that were kinda outta time on this track. Well.....I'm puttin' Dividenz album together so I have the track Torry did for them as well. There were also some out of time hypes on that track. SO......I mistakenly assumed that they were both done by Torry and simply wondered WHY there wasn't some digital editing done to fix those out of time hypes? That's all. It's really not a big deal. I'm just a perfectionist and I always go in and fix shit like that.....and I'm becoming pretty well known for it now too.

Now....about Torry and his beats. I really haven't heard much of his stuff. The most I've heard is what he's done on Nutz Verbal Porn record. I'm really not very familiar with his works other than something here and something there. I'm not gonna campaign for the guy though.....I don't know him well enough to do that. This thread isn't about Torry or his beat anywayz.....so why should I address it? I just had a quick question about something that has snowballed into some bullshit yet again. God forbid I have a question or opinion on somethin'.

I didn't bring you into shit.....so I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you should read everything before you speak on it....you already said that you didn't. I mentioned you 1 time bro.....about Nutz clearing up that Torry didn't record the vocals.

Happy New Year fat bastard......and my studio will be done before you need to head back up this way for your next appointment. We'll connect..........

 

[The Miracle]

@ D-Sane
If I was trying to start something with you, you would already know. It would be alot different conversation. I called you to address the issue like grown men do. You chose not to get at me. All this internet shit is for bitches, that is why I reached out to you, so that we could get to the bottom of it. I'm not gonna get on here and talk all crazy on line, I'd rather talk to the man, and get a real understanding.

I manage Torry, and it was my job to respond to that shit that you posted up there. There is alot of shit that I could talk about on here if I was trying to start some shit with you. I keep shit real. All I ask you to do, is do the same. Respect what we do, and we will respect what you do. It is just that simple. You weren't fully informed about what you were talking about, and you said somethings that were out of place about my nigga. I addressed it just as you would address me saying some out of place shit about you or your artists.

It's not my job to make you look unskilled at what you do. I would rather let your fans keep you in high regard. Give us that same respect. I could pull out all of the SLR releases, and I'm sure that I could find some flaws, but that isn't my job. Let's keep shit real, and not get into that funny shit.

@ Bullet
There are 2 sides to that story. I have chosen to stay out of it, and didn't post any details. Again, I manage Torry, and I don't appreciate people attempting to discredit him. You and D-Sane talk, and I'm sure that you have spoke with him in regards to those mixes. But I don't appreciate cats getting on here attempting to make Torry look bad. I been giving you respect. And it was your job to clarify that Torry didn't have anything to do with that song except the music. That is how your name got brought into it. But I really don't think all of that shit about the Mac Dre song, and the other stuff is really anybodies business. I don't get on here posting me and your business, whether bad or good.


You can take it how you want, but Torry is part of Jus Family, and I will come to his defense when is name is being shitted on.