NO GAY MARRIAGE IN CALIFORNIA

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California's top court voids San Francisco gay weddings


Associated Press
10:28 a.m. August 12, 2004

SAN FRANCISCO – The California Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that San Francisco's mayor overstepped his authority by issuing same-sex marriage licenses this spring. The court also voided all the marriages of gay and lesbian couples sanctioned by the city.

The court said the city violated the law when it issued the certificates and performed the marriage ceremonies in a monthlong wedding march that began Feb. 12, since both legislation and a voter-approved measure defined marriage as a union between a man and woman.

The court, however, did not resolve whether the California Constitution would permit a same-sex marriage, ruling instead on the narrow issue of whether local officials could bypass California's judicial and legislative branches.

Chief Justice Ronald George noted that Thursday's ruling doesn't address "the substantive legal rights of same sex couples. In actuality, the legal issue before us implicates the interest of all individuals in ensuring that public officials execute their official duties in a manner that respects the limits of the authorities granted to them as officeholders."

The justices also decided with a 5-2 vote to nullify the nearly 4,000 marriages peformed before the court halted the weddings on March 11. Their legality, Justice Joyce Kennard wrote, must wait until "the constitutionality of California laws restricting marriages to opposite-sex couples has been authoritatively resolved through judicial proceedings now pending in the courts of California."

The same-sex marriages had virtually no legal value, but powerful symbolic value. Their nullification by the high court dismayed Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon, the first same-sex couple to receive a marriage license in San Francisco.

"Del is 83-years-old and I am 79," Lyon said. "After being together for more than 50 years, it is a terrible blow to have the rights and protections of marriage taken away from us. At our age, we do not have the luxury of time."

The justices agreed to resolve the legality of the weddings sanctioned by Mayor Gavin Newsom after emergency petitions were filed by a conservative group and the state's top law enforcement official, Attorney General Bill Lockyer.

San Francisco's gay weddings, which followed a landmark ruling by Massachusetts' top court allowing gay marriage _ prompted President Bush to push for changing the federal constitution to ban same-sex marriage, an effort that has become campaign fodder this election year.

The California court sided with Lockyer's arguments, ruling that Newsom's actions would foment legal anarchy and sanction local officials to legislate state law from city halls or county government centers.

When the justices agreed in March to hear the case, they said they would decide only whether Newsom overstepped his mayoral powers for now, but would entertain a constitutional challenge_ that gays should be treated the same as heterosexual couples under the California Constitution _ if such a lawsuit worked its way to the justices through the lower courts.

Gay and lesbian couples immediately acted on that invitation, suing in San Francisco County Superior Court alleging laws barring them from marrying were discriminatory. Mayor Newsom filed a similar lawsuit.

The now-consolidated cases are unlikely to reach the California Supreme Court for at least a year or more, leaving California's most significant gay rights challenge on the back burner as that litigation percolates in pretrial proceedings. California lawmakers have refused to take a position on the matter, and have left the politically volatile issue to its Supreme Court.

Voters have also sat idle, awaiting a definitive ruling on the merits of whether the state constitution allows gay marriage, and have not used the voter initiative process to force the issue.

Newsom argued to the justices in May that the ability of same-sex couples to marry was a "fundamental right" that compelled him to act. Newsom authorized the marriages by citing the California Constitution's ban against discrimination, and claimed he was duty-bound to follow this higher authority rather than state laws banning gay marriage.

The Arizona-based Christian law firm Alliance Defense Fund, a plaintiff in one of two cases the justices decided Thursday, had told the justices that Newsom's "act of disobedience" could lead other local officials to sanction "polygamists."

Newsom's defiance of state law created huge lines at City Hall by gays and lesbians waiting to be married, and ignited a firestorm engulfing statehouses and ballot boxes nationwide.

Missouri voters this month endorsed a state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage _ a move designed to prevent that state's judiciary from agreeing with the arguments Newsom is making in California.

A state constitutional challenge by gays in Massachusetts prompted that state's highest court to endorse the gay marriages that began there in May. A judge in Washington state this month also ruled in favor of gay marriage, pending a resolution from that state's top court.

Louisiana residents are to vote on the same issue Sept. 18. Then Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah are to vote Nov. 2. Initiatives are pending in Michigan, North Dakota and Ohio.

Four states _ Alaska, Hawaii, Nebraska and Nevada _ already have similar amendments in their constitutions.

The cases decided Thursday are Lockyer v. San Francisco, S122923; Lewis v. Alfaro, S122865.

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Jun 18, 2004
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WT SAVAGE said:
good, i aint tryin to have my kids growin up to thinkin gay is natural......
YEAH! Fucking fags! They don't deserve equal rights. If their partner is dying, they shouldn't be allowed next to them in the hospital room. Fucking FAGS!.........I love it when minds gather...it makes me feel better about the future...that one day we can come together to have engaging, and enlightening discussions...about what to do with these fucking fags.
Do me a favor, man. Stay in Windsor, never leave...promise me you'll never leave...have four or five little Joe Dirts, and they can keep the double wide clean, while you throw back a tall boy of Bud...oh and punch your wife/cousin for me while you're at it...yall come back now ya hear?
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
YEAH! Fucking fags! They don't deserve equal rights. If their partner is dying, they shouldn't be allowed next to them in the hospital room. Fucking FAGS!.........I love it when minds gather...it makes me feel better about the future...that one day we can come together to have engaging, and enlightening discussions...about what to do with these fucking fags.
Do me a favor, man. Stay in Windsor, never leave...promise me you'll never leave...have four or five little Joe Dirts, and they can keep the double wide clean, while you throw back a tall boy of Bud...oh and punch your wife/cousin for me while you're at it...yall come back now ya hear?

Fuck man, why dont u round them up and live with them u fuck, since u love them so much, go make an all gay city like that fat whore roise odonnell is making an all faggot comminuty.
 
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Funny to me that, Gay Marraige = Good Thing, and Affirmative Action = Unnecessary. Real hilarious.

Mark my words, Gay Marraige will lead to Bigamy. It's only fair to Mormons and Muslims.
 
Jun 24, 2004
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L Mac-a-docious said:
Why not? If we can make a mockery of marriage on TV, we might as well go all the way...the way I look at it, if it doesn't affect you, why give a shit?

Ever heard of the holocaust? Alot of Germans thought that way, oh hey it doesnt affect me, why should I give a shit?
 
Jun 18, 2004
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DaytonFamily said:
Ever heard of the holocaust? Alot of Germans thought that way, oh hey it doesnt affect me, why should I give a shit?
If you are comparing gays getting the right to marry, and the holocaust.....I don't even know what to say to that...I would call you an inbread piece of shit, but I would be insulting inbread pieces of shit. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
P.S. Not only have you have you offended gays and jews, but that is just a terrible metaphor to begin with. I would tell you to think next time, but I'm guessing that would only make things worse....in sumation, go spray yourself.
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
If you are comparing gays getting the right to marry, and the holocaust.....I don't even know what to say to that...I would call you an inbread piece of shit, but I would be insulting inbread pieces of shit. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
P.S. Not only have you have you offended gays and jews, but that is just a terrible metaphor to begin with. I would tell you to think next time, but I'm guessing that would only make things worse....in sumation, go spray yourself.

Im offended by this statement