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CZAR

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Yo did yall hear about the trade that almost went down?? It was on espn during the Cavs game!! Here is what each team wouldve recieved......

Chicago Bulls - Kobe Bryant

Sacramento Kings - Ben Gordon & P.J. Brown

L.A. Lakers - Ron Artest & Ben Wallace

But it fell through and Im still not sure why. Stephen A. Smith said it was because of Kobe's contract, but I dont know!! But man it looks like its close to gettin done, just a few minor tweaks!! Got Em!!
 
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Chicago Bulls forward Luol Deng was a conflicted man on Wednesday night. He had turned down a reported $50 million earlier in the day, and now he sat inside the dank visiting locker room at the Meadowlands, preparing for a game and wanting some answers.

Bulls forward Tyrus Thomas was looking for answers, too, leaning in to listen to the latest on the Kobe Bryant-centered universe.

Chicago center Ben Wallace was all ears as well, likewise seeking an accurate reading on the Bryant talks.

All three had been mentioned as potential trade bait for Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant. So on the opening night of the season, a steady ship they were not.

"No one is telling me much of anything. I don't know what is going on exactly," Deng said regarding the Bryant trade talks.

And the state of those talks is this:

Deng is very much in play in the conversations between Chicago and Los Angeles, ESPN.com has learned.

And it's mainly because of Bryant's wishes that Deng is still wearing a Chicago uniform.

A source with knowledge of the trade talks said Deng has been included in proposals swapped between the teams, but Bryant has continually threatened to veto almost any deal in which Deng would be included. Bryant wants to be sure that the team he joins has enough talent remaining to compete for the NBA title.

The source said talks between the teams had stagnated, though by no means were they dead. And while the difficulties involved in the deal -- making the salaries match, and trying to trade players onto 15-man rosters now that the preseason roster flexibility has elapsed -- continued to be formidable, the Bulls remained determined to pursue every avenue toward acquiring Bryant from the Lakers.

As ESPN.com reported on Saturday, the Lakers have asked for Deng, Thomas, guard Ben Gordon and rookie Joakim Noah as the core parts of any trade for Bryant.

Contrary to most reports, the Bulls remain ready and willing to deal Deng, the source said. But if they're going to include Deng in a deal, they will not part with more than one of the other three, said the source.

Even then, it is not clear that any trade involving Deng would be acceptable to Bryant, who is wielding the power of the NBA's only no-trade clause by threatening to veto certain deals.

"It's not just the Bulls and Lakers who have to be happy with this deal. Kobe does, too, and that's a major factor," the source said.

The Bulls, according to ESPN.com's source, are willing to offer an alternative package of Gordon, Noah and Thomas.


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Deng's value is measured not in production, but in potential.

On Wednesday, Deng was wearing a forlorn look on his 22-year-old face as he pondered his situation. The midnight deadline was approaching for a contract extension and the financial security that goes with it. Deng was reportedly offered a five-year, $50 million extension by Chicago, but he said he decided not to sign when the Bulls did not increase their offer on Wednesday.

With no deal in the works, Deng faced the prospect of playing out the season and becoming a restricted free agent in a 2008 summer that appeared to offer few good options for him.

He had already lived through years of trade rumors, first linked to a possible Kevin Garnett deal and then to a Pau Gasol trade, the common denominator in both cases being the Bulls' reluctance to give him up. Now, strange as it may seem, the 6-9 small forward was considered the main pawn in the most publicized trade speculation the NBA has seen.

Deng is widely regarded as one of the league's best up-and-coming players, a young man from Sudan by way of England and Duke University. His impeccable character is matched only by the touch on his mid-range jumper, his most effective offensive weapon. Last season, his third in the NBA, he shot 52 percent from the field and averaged 18.8 points. Wednesday night, in the midst of the drama swirling around him, he scored 22 points in the Bulls' 112-103 overtime loss to New Jersey.

He is one of the NBA's most nondescript young stars, a do-it-all type appreciated in Chicago but not very well known beyond the borders of the Bulls' universe. And though his accomplishments are far short of Bryant's, he is the primary obstacle in the way of a deal between the Lakers and the Bulls.

This is the case even though the Bulls reportedly offered him less than, for instance, the Sacramento Kings committed to Kevin Martin, another young star at a similar stage in his career.

"I'm definitely surprised we didn't come to terms. I thought we would come to terms, I really did. The last couple weeks we started talking more seriously," Deng said.

He was asked what the situation said about the Bulls' commitment to him.

"I understand the question, I just don't really know how to answer it," he said.

And with that, Deng started pressing to have some information passed his way.

And after being told of Bryant's veto power and how he was wielding it, Deng was asked if he knows Bryant personally?

"Yes."

And was Deng friendly enough with Kobe to give him a casual call or send him a text message?

"Yes," Deng said. "I guess it's time for me to pull out his phone number."

It probably is, because to a large degree, Bryant is driving the bus here, exercising his power behind the scenes in the hopes that the Lakers will cave in and accept a substandard offer -- one that would allow Deng to remain in Chicago. Thus far, Los Angeles hasn't been willing to do so. And chances are, the Lakers are going to remain steadfast in their stance for as long as possible.

The Bulls can afford to sit back and wait for the Lakers to cave, knowing that when a team trades a superstar, it rarely gets equal value in return. (See the Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson and Vince Carter trades, for example.)

Of course, the Bulls would like to see Bryant win the test of wills, because it would end with him in Chicago playing right alongside Deng. For now, though, Deng remains a dealbreaker. Not for the Bulls, but for Kobe.

And until his stance changes -- or the Lakers blink -- Bryant is likely to remain an unhappy Laker.
 

CZAR

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^^^Yo thats what I thought about P.J. Brown, but they showed this deal sevral times on espn and sportscenter and his name was there everytime so I dont know lollolol!! Got Em!!!
 
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THIS TRADE FELL THROUGH LAST NIGHT. PJ BROWN CAN BE IN THE DEAL. HE IS NOT ON THE ROSTER BUT WE CAN DO A SIGN AND TRADE. THANK GOD THIS DEAL DIDNT GO DOWN. WE WOULD BE DOWNGRADING. FUCK WAS PAXSON THINKIN TRYNA THROW IN BEN WALLACE WHEN WE CAN EASILY REPLACE HIM WITH TYRUS OR NOAH AND A PICK. WE NEED HIM AS CENTER. IF WE CAN GET KOBE FOR GORDON, THOMAS OR NOAH, OR BOTH, AND A FILLER OR A PICK, TAKE THAT SHIT! IF THAT WENT DOWN, THE BULLS WILL BE CHAMPIONS AND THE LAKERS WILL BE DECENT AGAIN

KIRK HINRICH
KOBE BRYANT
LUOL DENG
JOE SMITH/THOMAS OR NOAH IF NOT IN THE TRADE
BEN WALLACE
 
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THIS TRADE FELL THROUGH LAST NIGHT. PJ BROWN CAN BE IN THE DEAL. HE IS NOT ON THE ROSTER BUT WE CAN DO A SIGN AND TRADE. THANK GOD THIS DEAL DIDNT GO DOWN. WE WOULD BE DOWNGRADING. FUCK WAS PAXSON THINKIN TRYNA THROW IN BEN WALLACE WHEN WE CAN EASILY REPLACE HIM WITH TYRUS OR NOAH AND A PICK. WE NEED HIM AS CENTER. IF WE CAN GET KOBE FOR GORDON, THOMAS OR NOAH, OR BOTH, AND A FILLER OR A PICK, TAKE THAT SHIT! IF THAT WENT DOWN, THE BULLS WILL BE CHAMPIONS AND THE LAKERS WILL BE DECENT AGAIN

KIRK HINRICH
KOBE BRYANT
LUOL DENG
JOE SMITH/THOMAS OR NOAH IF NOT IN THE TRADE
BEN WALLACE

Man, you are lucking out like crazy if you only have to give up Ben Wallace and Ben Gordon. Ben Wallace is done. He's not close to being the player he was. Joakim Noah will be able to do very similar things very soon. Kobe will win you games automatically. Ben Gordon sucks balls.

AND Ben Wallace HAS to be in the deal for contracts to match. This trade isn't going down without giving up Ben Wallace.

To me, Hinrich, Bryant, Deng, Thomas, Noah is a very good starting five. Bryant is the oldest in the starting five at like, what? 29 or so?

The thing about this trade that is crazy to me is that Ben and Artest hate each other, and they were going to be on the same team.. .That could be the reason why the trade got canceled. The riot at the Palace started because of these two.
 

Defy

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I'm just hoping that after the trade goes down Noah isn't a bull and kobe isn't a laker.....I'm not a big kobe fan nor am I a bulls fan, and I haven't liked the lakers since they got shaq, I can't stand that bastard, I do like ben wallace & ron artest, but the lakers need someone to score points for them, shit.....
 
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Man, you are lucking out like crazy if you only have to give up Ben Wallace and Ben Gordon. Ben Wallace is done. He's not close to being the player he was. Joakim Noah will be able to do very similar things very soon. Kobe will win you games automatically. Ben Gordon sucks balls.

AND Ben Wallace HAS to be in the deal for contracts to match. This trade isn't going down without giving up Ben Wallace.

To me, Hinrich, Bryant, Deng, Thomas, Noah is a very good starting five. Bryant is the oldest in the starting five at like, what? 29 or so?

The thing about this trade that is crazy to me is that Ben and Artest hate each other, and they were going to be on the same team.. .That could be the reason why the trade got canceled. The riot at the Palace started because of these two.

U HAVE NO CLUE OF WUT U TALKIN BOUT. BEN WALLACE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN THE TRADE. LAKERS WANT GORDON, DENG, THOMAS, AND NOAH AND WERE NOT WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP. WALLACE'S CONTRACT DOESNT NEED TO GET THROWN IN THERE. BEN GORDON SUCKS? U MUST NOT WATCH HIM. CHECK DUDES STATS AND WATCH HIM PLAY, THATS ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT. IT WILL SPEAK FOR ITSELF
 
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Kobe Bryant is not coming to the Bulls.

General manager John Paxson put an end to more than a week of feverish speculation, declaring, "There's not a deal to be done" in the Bryant sweepstakes following Thursday's practice.

"It's time to put it to rest," Paxson said.


Paxson had grown weary of responding to the endless speculation regarding Bryant's future and wanted to ease the minds of his team, which many consider an Eastern Conference favorite.

Paxson acknowledged having several conversations with the Lakers regarding Bryant but refused to divulge specifics. It's known that the Bulls engaged in multiple talks trying to engineer three-team trades, but nothing ever got close, Paxson said.

Paxson refused to say his team was distracted by the daily rumors regarding the incident, saying merely that the Bulls "played poorly" in Wednesday's season-opening loss the Nets.

But Paxson wanted to make sure the situation didn't become a distraction.

"Today sends a message that our guys don't have to worry about anything anymore," he said.


FUCK IT. WERE A CONTENDING TEAM WITHOUT HIM. LAKERS WANT WAY TOO MUCH KNOWING DAMN WELL THEY NEVER GONNA GET EQUAL VALUE FOR THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. IF I WAS GM, I'D WAIT UNTIL DEC. 15TH AND TRADE FOR GASOL. WE HAVE SHOOTERS, ARE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE NO SCORING BIG MEN. PAU GASOL IS THAT DUDE. THEY WANT NOCIONI. I WOULD GIVE THEM NOCIONI, THOMAS, NOAH, AND A PICK. THEY WANT NOCIONI WHICH IS WHY WE WERE OUTBIDDING EACHOTHER IN THE OFFSEASON. GET THE SHIT DONE PAXSON

HINRICH
GORDON
DENG
GASOL
WALLACE

CHAMPIONSHIP!!