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My computer is a piece of shit, It's about time I purchased a new one. I want to do it custom, catered to music and only music. Im planning on researching it this week, and getting price quotes and what not. A budget isn't really an issue right now, I got money to put into the studio and Im serious about this. If you guys could suggest anything, or any good research websites, and help at all would be appreciated. I plan on running Pro Tools and Cubase and all that good stuff. All I really know right now though is that my computer is slow, and the capacity is really low. I want atleast 60 gigs, and thats all I have planned as of yet is my space, lots of space. Any other suggestions? If you run your studio on a computer and have done it custom, post your setup! And any tips you can give me would be appreciated!

Thanks
 
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Get all of the parts off pricewatch.com and build it yourself. You can build a top-notch one for under $400 (including shipping) + cost of monitor & soundcard.

-=bumpus=-
 
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Off the top of my head, I'd get the following (although others will doubtless disagree with me).

120gb Maxtor or WD hard disc
AMD Athlon XP 2600 333 cpu
neForce 2 mobo
GeForce 2 MX400 video card (cheap but not that important)
LiteOn CD-RW
2x512mb Brand name PC2700 ddr ram
Cheap case w/450 watt ps.

That's not the top of the line for everything, but it is a good mix of price vs performance. If you go above those models (faster cpu, bigger hard disc), you get a big increase in the price/performace ratio.

-=bumpus=-
 

HERESY

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^^^^ I DONT REMEMBER THE GUY TELLING THE BOARD ABOUT HIS *CURRENT* HARD DRIVE OR IF HE HAD PRO TOOLS INSTALLED.

I HAVE PRO TOOLS 6.1, CUBASE SX, ACID 4, SOUND FORGE 6 AND A GRIP OF PLUG INS ON A 80 GIG 8 MB CACHE 7200 DRIVE. NONE OF THE APPS TAKE UP MASSIVE SPACE. WHAT *WILL* TAKE UP SPACE IS THE TYPE OF BIT AND SAMPLE RATE USED.


@SAMOS IF YOU ARE GONNA RUN PRO TOOLS HIT THE DIGI DESIGN WEB SITE OR THE DIGI DUC (DO A GOOGLE SEARCH AND TYPE DIGI DUC) AND SEARCH FOR THE "ALLENSTEIN" MACHINE. DO NOT CUT CORNERS WHEN DEALING WITH MOTHERBOARDS. IF THE DIGI DESIGN SITE SAYS TO USE A CERTAIN MOBO USE IT.


:HGK:




www.newegg.com
 
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HERESY said:
DO NOT CUT CORNERS WHEN DEALING WITH MOTHERBOARDS. IF THE DIGI DESIGN SITE SAYS TO USE A CERTAIN MOBO USE It.
I remember the 1st comp I built for my 001 set up, the mother board I ordered was one letter off from the one I was told to use. I thought no big deal, yeah right, I could never get DAE to launch so it was useless for pro tools, I had to go back and get the right board. Never again will I make that same mistake.
 

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What is a reccomended sound card? I want a good sound card that I can plug my mixer into. I had an M-Audio external mic-preamp for awhile but I didn't like it...I liked using my mixer to handle the mic better. Is there a good sound card that can handle vocals coming into the computer through the mixer? Thanks
 
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bumpus said:
Off the top of my head, I'd get the following (although others will doubtless disagree with me).

120gb Maxtor or WD hard disc
AMD Athlon XP 2600 333 cpu
neForce 2 mobo
GeForce 2 MX400 video card (cheap but not that important)
LiteOn CD-RW
2x512mb Brand name PC2700 ddr ram
Cheap case w/450 watt ps.

That's not the top of the line for everything, but it is a good mix of price vs performance. If you go above those models (faster cpu, bigger hard disc), you get a big increase in the price/performace ratio.

-=bumpus=-
i agree with:
Hard Drive selection
CPU 2600 333fsb AMD
pc2700 ram 2 512's

as for everything else

get a gigabyte motherboard, they have 2 BIOS's in them, so if you flash the first one to an updated edition and it fucks up, all you have to do is pull the 3v battery out of the mobo for 15 mins and backup bios takes over ... I'd get the GIGABYTE KT600 Chipset Model "GA-7VT600 1394 ($77) ... it has Serial ATA (SATA) so you might want to think about getting a drive with that interface instead of the old ATA (parallel ATA)

i would agree with the lite-on cd-RW, but now i would have to say buy a DVD-ROM/CD-RW combo drive from lite-on ($50) , its only $20 more expensive, but couple this with a NEC 8x DVD-R/-RW +R/+RW 8x drive for $118, and you can burn DVD's on the fly (read from the combo while writing to dvd burner, instead of copy to hard drive then burn from there)... plus you'll want DVD to back-up your data incase of a crash or its time to re-install windows (I reinstall yearly)

"cheap case w/450w power supply"
you can do this, but the case is gonna be $30 and a quality 450w will be $70.
do yourself a favor and buy a raidmax scorpio868, it has an acrylic window, LEDs on the front and a 420w raidmax power supply, for $65 ($99 retail w/o power supply @ some web sites tho!)

as for the video card, i would get an ATI chipset instead of Nvidia. buy an ATI made buy ATI or an Asus w/ ATI chipset.

also bumpus left out the most important part of an audio production system (mayo brought it up tho)....the audio card

get a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum, you will thank yourself later

if you want good 5.1 THX sound, go with Logitech Z-5300 ($150)


almost forgot, i would not buy from any of the retailers on pricewatch.com (other than newegg)

buy everything from newegg.com (thats where i quoted the prices from), make sure the RAM you buy (model #'s match & everything) is compatible with the motherboard.

newegg is reliable, they ship fast (fedex) and most of the shipping is free or cheap (some items have free shipping & others dont, so pay attention) ex: a $7 floppy drive has $4 shipping charge, and a better $10 drive has free shipping, which one you gonna buy?

newegg has free or cheap shipping and you can RMA (return) it and get a replacement if anything is messed up (and it wasnt your fault)

if your putting this together yourself, read the damn instruction manuals to a T and take your time, IE dont put your heat sink on backwards and crush your processor cuz you couldnt look @ the picture of how to align it correctly for 3 seconds. make sure you wear a static wrist strap, that it is grounded (to the case) and you are in a low static area. never handle computer components outside of their static bag without a static wrist strap on thats grounded! if you heard it, its fried... if you felt it, its really fried. you can fuck shit up even if you didnt hear it or feel it @ all.
 
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i spent $1000 on mine and already had the flat screen CRT and 80 GB hard drive



to avoid confusion: a flat SCREEN is a CRT (cathode-ray tube) monitor (big bulky 60 lbs) that has a flat screen (cheaper CRT's have 'rounded' screens)

a flat PANEL is an LCD (liquid crystal display) or Plasma display (they have a flat screen as well, but their panel is thin, therefore called a flat PANEL)

IMO LCD's are crappy (long screen-latency times)

if your going flatpanel do it right and get a plasma for 3 or 4 G's

otherwise stick with the flat screen CRT, it has a good refresh rate and there are more pixels than on a flat panel LCD

also... LCD's are notorious for having dead pixels, and some retailers/manufactures wont replace the monitor unless there are 8 or more dead pixels! .... this is another reason LCD's are shitty
 
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I was thinking about just the tower alone, no monitor, speakers, or any addons. Just the tower, that's all I am looking for right now.

Can someone please explain the advantages of having a better monitor? IE: Crt, LCD, etc. Because I was planning on just using my regular monitor. I don't see how that makes a big difference when dealing with sound?
 

HERESY

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Enermax CS-319L-B3A (Black), Aluminum Case 350W PSU

Zalman CNPS6000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler for AMD Socket 462

A7V8X-X Motherboard

AMD XP1700+ FSB333 (version overclocked to 2.3Ghz)

kingston 512 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM

ATI Radeon 9000 64Mb DDR 4x Dual Video Card

MITSUMI FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH

Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW

lite on 16 x dvd

WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 80GB 7200RPM 8MB CACHE

mouse

keyboard



TOTAL: $569 WITH A COUPLE OF BUCKS FOR SHIPPING (NOT INCLUDED). I BUILT THIS COMPUTER SO I COULD RUN THE DIGI 002R AND CUBASE SX. I'M ABLE TO RUN ALL 32 TRACKS (WITH A GRIP OF PLUG INS) WHEN I USE PRO TOOLS. ON CUBASE I RECORDED 48 TRACKS, DID EQ CHANGES ON EACH TRACK, USED INSERTS, SENDS AND APPLIED FX TO THE MASTER BUSS. NO SYSTEM LAGS OR CRASHES. IN FACT THE PERFORMANCE SCREEN DIDNT EVEN MOVE HALF WAY. IT WAS NOWHERE *NEAR* THE HALF WAY MARK. THE PROCESSOR I USED PROVIDES THE SAME AMOUNT OF POWER AS THE XP 2500 OR 2600 WHEN OVERCLOCKED BUT FOR LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE. NOT ALL XP-1700'S ARE OVERCLOCKABLE AND I DONT OVERCLOCK MINE. I HAVE NO NEED TO DO SO BECAUSE IM FINE WITH THE SYSTEMS PERFORMENCE.IF I DID OVERCLOCK IT THATS WHERE THE ZALMAN FAN COMES IN. IT HAS AN ADJUSTABLE FAN SPEED AND I'D JUST TURN THAT UP TO KEEP THE SYSTEM COOL.

I DIDN'T LIST THE MONITOR BECAUSE I ALREADY HAD ONE. IF YOU HAD A GRAND YOU CAN GET THAT AND HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON A FLAT PANEL. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A MONITOR YOU CAN PURCHASE MORE RAM, ANOTHER HARD DRIVE AND SNATCH A DVD BURNER. I HAVE AN 8X DVD BURNER (R+,- AND RW+,-) AND PAID $149 WITH A 20 REBATE. ITS A TDK MODEL.


*IF* YOU PLAN ON RUNNING PRO TOOLS HARDWARE THAT REQUIRES FIRE WIRE YOU WILL NEED A 1394 A 1EEE FIREWIRE CARD. I PAID $30 BUCKS FOR MINE (LOCAL) SO THAT PUTS MY SYSTEM TOTAL AT $600. DO **NOT** SUBSTITUTE OR USE DIFFERENT PARTS IF YOU PLAN ON RUNNING PRO TOOLS. USE THE PARTS THAT ARE DIGI DESIGN APPROVED AND YOU'LL HAVE NO TROUBLE. IF NOT YOU'LL HAVE DAE ERRORS AND PRO TOOLS WILL WONT START. IF IT DOES START IT WILL WIG OUT IN SOME WEIRD AND UNUSUAL WAY.




:HGK:


PS ALL PARTS LISTED ARE DIGI DESIGN APPROVED AND CAN BE FOUND ON THE DIGI DUC.