NE Patriots spied on the St louis Rams in the 2002 Super Bowl

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...l-patriots-tapingallegation&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHOENIX (AP) -- A new spying charge has nicked the New England Patriots.

A member of the Patriots' video staff taped the St. Louis Rams' last walkthrough before they played in the 2002 Super Bowl, an unidentified source told the Boston Herald for a story Saturday.

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New England beat the heavily favored Rams the next day 20-17 for their first NFL title. The unbeaten Patriots will try to win their fourth Super Bowl in seven seasons Sunday when they play the New York Giants.

Early this season, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell fined New England coach Bill Belichick $500,000 and docked the team $250,000 and a first-round draft pick after the Spygate scandal. The Patriots were accused of videotaping New York Jets defensive coaches as they signaled to players.

The Herald cited a source close to the Patriots in the 2001 season as saying the team held a walkthrough at the Superdome in New Orleans before the game on Feb. 3, 2002. After the Patriots took a team picture, a member of their video department stayed inside the stadium and taped the Rams' session.

It was not known whether the cameraman was told by the Patriots to film the practice or what he did with the tape, the Herald said. The Rams were two-touchdown favorites, but lost on Adam Vinatieri's last-second field goal.

Told of the newest allegation, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said: "We have no knowledge of it."

Rams spokesman Rick Smith, reading a statement from team president John Shaw, said, "At this point, we have no comment."

An e-mail and telephone message sent by The Associated Press to Patriots spokesman Stacey James was not immediately returned. However, the Herald quoted him as saying: "The coaches have no knowledge of it."

New England did not have a walkthrough Saturday. The Giants held one at the Arizona Cardinals' practice facility.

A walkthrough is done without pads or helmets, giving teams a chance to practice their formations.

Goodell spent much of his state of the game address Friday talking about that episode. He said he did not think the Patriots used such tapes to win previous titles.

"There was no indication that it benefited them in any of the Super Bowl victories," he said.

Asked specifically whether the NFL's investigation of Spygate looked into any allegations involving the 2002 Super Bowl, he said: "I'm not aware of that."

Goodell also defended his decision to destroy notes and videotapes linked to the Spygate, saying "there was no purpose for them."

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., who sent Goodell a letter asking for explanation, said Goodell's response "didn't make any sense at all."
 
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MAN WHO CARES IF THEY SPIED FOOTBALL IS TOO HARD OF A GAME TO CHEAT TO BE REALLY HONEST I CAN SEE IF THEY SAID THEY PAYED OFF THE REFS NOW THATS CHEATIN OR IF THEY HAD SOMEONE FROM THE OTHER TEAMS TO THROW THE GAME THATS CHEATIN. U CAN KNOW WHAT SOMEBODYS PLAY AND STILL NOT STOP EM SO THATS HOW I SEE IT. VINITARI STILL HAD TO MAKE THE KICK FOR EM TO WIN IF HE MISSED IT WOULD THERE BE ANY ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS OR IF THE PATS LOST 5 GAMES THIS YEAR??
 
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this shit isnt official so i'll beleieve when the commisioner apporves it or the person that "filmed it" shows himself.

we filmed 6 games and most of em were jets and they were doing it right back to us, thats why they called the last game spygate or whatever the fuck. there can only be 15 min of filming in those practices anyway then all cameras gotta go so this is bullshit
 
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Mother fuckers are hella blowing this shit out of proportion. They fuckin filmed the Lambs walkthrough. How much information can you really get from that? Honestly, it wouldn't be enough imo.


EDIT: Nvm. It's cheating. Little help or not, its still fuckin cheating. The Pat's should be stripped of that championship.
 
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^^^no cameras are aloud in a walk through so this is bullshit and the globe here just posts bullshit all the time like this just because.
 
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well just lookin up on this shit since i really wanna back my case and turned out i was wrong about when the films were taped. they taped 5 of em in pre-season meetings and 1 in the regular season aginst the jets.

and the senator is a long time eagles fan so now i know why he's being a lil bitch about it lol this guy's a fucking joke
 

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krazee, youre sounding too much like a fan right now. Nothing wrong with it, we all do it. But do you really think they only taped those games? Come on now, if someone is getting away with something theyre gonna run with it. Im sure we havent heard half the story and more shit will start coming out after the season
 
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^^^no i agree with that 100% but theres no proof and it is dumb for a govt type dude to stick his nose in the nfl's buisness when theres more fucked up things going on in this country he can fix. u know that guy is dumb for it
 
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i am glad specter is crackin down on sports. now after the NFl, i wanna see dude go to the NBA and see whats good with the crooked refs.
no its dumb IMO. i mean this is the fucking senator or whatever the fuck he is. he shouldnt be worried about sports and the nfl should handle there shit and same with NBA cause i agree with that crooked ref shit. but this should be a sport matter and nothing more.
 

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its bigger than what you think it is folks. its not just an organization cheating to win some games, and fill some seats. when i watch a game, i want that shit to be competetive. I don't wanna worry about bullshit calls, or pre-determined games. I don;t give a fuck if it was the chargers cheatin. and it gets bigger than sports when the commissioner of the league allegedly destroys evidence. its gets bigger than sports when hundreds of players take steroids. its gets bigger than sports when half the refs cheats, and some even have ties to the mob. so you tell me again why you think congress should not get involved?
 
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^^^because its a game and there arent actual laws being broken just nfl rules which is why nfl should take care of it. he destroyed tapes but still fined them and took a draft pick and that was never done before and it was the highest fine u can give. it isnt like he destroyed it and did nothing to the team.

the only thing i agree with is the steroids thing cause thats an actual law being broken and they can and should start makin arrest just so ppl stop.
 

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well...
here is another theory. which i thought as well. the patriots are the "team" of the nfl, and a subliminal propaganda tool. so why would congress turn on them like this? well here is why! from wikipedia:

NFL Destruction of Spygate Tapes
During the 2007-2008 NFL Season, Senator Specter wrote to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell concerning the destruction of New England Patriots Spygate tapes. Questions have been raised about Senator Specter's relationship with Comcast and their ongoing battle with the NFL over fees related to the NFL Network. Arlen Specter has taken $153,600 in campaign contributions from Comcast or those affiliated with Comcast as employees or through its PAC. The only firm which has given more money to Specter is the law firm Blank Rome, LLP, which represents Comcast and which has given Specter $358,453 although the organization itself did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. [10]. On February 1, 2008, the commissioner stated that the Tapes were destroyed because "they confirmed what I already knew about the issue." Bill Belichick, the team's coach, refused to respond from Glendale, Arizona, the site of Super Bowl XLII, stating "It is a league issue. I know nothing about it."


patriots are fucked! lol
 
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^^^^yeah we prolly are lol. but i dont think we been cheatin until this year and it stopped in 1 game in the 1st quater so... i dunno and really dont care theres nothing me or u can do about it.