MPC 500 what do yall think of it??
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Yeah, it's the same reason why people get Pro-Tools.
If you have either an MPC or Pro-Tools, your automatically a "Producer" and respected.
Seriously though Cante-up, if your just getting into the beatmaking game. I would first suggest FL Studio or Reason. You can't really go wrong with either one, their both really str8 forward. Just get some good samples, plugins and your pretty much set.
If you have either an MPC or Pro-Tools, your automatically a "Producer" and respected.
Seriously though Cante-up, if your just getting into the beatmaking game. I would first suggest FL Studio or Reason. You can't really go wrong with either one, their both really str8 forward. Just get some good samples, plugins and your pretty much set.
^ But with Pro Tools you can easily take your files to other places seamlessly. It's like Macs, I think the only thing they're good at is that they're all the same, and all hardware easily and painlessly links up and works with it. And you need that kinda thing in the music industry when there's more important things to worry about.
I can't remember the last time I took anything anywhere. Some of the things you guys worry about are next to pointless these days.
City Situation, if you really believe what you wrote, you've been spending too time much mingling with people who don't know what they're talking about and not enough time in real studios and around people who do.
Now back to Cante-up... What exactly do you want the MPC for? I ask because it's very possible there's much better ways to spend the money and get more bang for your buck.
City Situation, if you really believe what you wrote, you've been spending too time much mingling with people who don't know what they're talking about and not enough time in real studios and around people who do.
Now back to Cante-up... What exactly do you want the MPC for? I ask because it's very possible there's much better ways to spend the money and get more bang for your buck.
Why's that? I mean if you have your audio files in .wav format, they'll open up in .wav format in whatever the hell program you use. That's a pretty d@mn universal audio format that should open up in any audio program.
People call Pro-Tools the industry standard, which I have no clue why because it seems like Cubase, Logic, and others can do the same ish. But to think of it, I'm sure most studios now have adapted to anything, not just Pro-Tools. That's like supporting and giving into a monopoly, fuck that.
People call Pro-Tools the industry standard, which I have no clue why because it seems like Cubase, Logic, and others can do the same ish. But to think of it, I'm sure most studios now have adapted to anything, not just Pro-Tools. That's like supporting and giving into a monopoly, fuck that.
Well i can not speak from hands on experience per-se but I believe something like a broadcast wav file is something more universal, just a wave is cool but then getting everything synced up or aligned right can be a chore, the benefit of broadcast wave files or just working between 1 platform is that the waves are timestamped...Im speaking out my ass right now, but i could be right....also from what I have heard not all systems produce the same sound, It is way out of my league to explain, simply each platform may have a way it processes audio different from the other and shit.....Ive heard for example grammy award winning engineers say they can notice the difference between pro-tools and logic.....teddy riley uses logic...so im sure that says you do not need an exact platform to achieve sucess in making great music.
Too much emphasis is being placed on what platform..pick what you like and whats intuitive to you...shit former pro-tools users are happy with reaper, and i have heard great things about this cheap program( price cheap)... I guarantee this....If you have a great signal chain using a $30 Magix music maker you get at best buy, you can achieve top notch quality.....even realer is majority of us will never bring out the full potential of the gear we have, we barely scratch the surface, and then move on to the next miracle cure.
True story my homie raw would run all his outs of his keyboards and his mpc into a mackie 1604 mixer then from there into a masterlink to C.D. and engineers at studios compliment him on the quality of the sound....learn your equipment...he has used it all..tape, adat, hard disk recorders, pro-tools...shit warren G made his first album with a mackie 24-8 and I believe to ADATs..We are super spoiled right now complaining on prices of equipment which has never been cheaper...not enough tracks...damn they used to use 4 tracks and 8 tracks...and was making hits.....not just rap music
Too much emphasis is being placed on what platform..pick what you like and whats intuitive to you...shit former pro-tools users are happy with reaper, and i have heard great things about this cheap program( price cheap)... I guarantee this....If you have a great signal chain using a $30 Magix music maker you get at best buy, you can achieve top notch quality.....even realer is majority of us will never bring out the full potential of the gear we have, we barely scratch the surface, and then move on to the next miracle cure.
True story my homie raw would run all his outs of his keyboards and his mpc into a mackie 1604 mixer then from there into a masterlink to C.D. and engineers at studios compliment him on the quality of the sound....learn your equipment...he has used it all..tape, adat, hard disk recorders, pro-tools...shit warren G made his first album with a mackie 24-8 and I believe to ADATs..We are super spoiled right now complaining on prices of equipment which has never been cheaper...not enough tracks...damn they used to use 4 tracks and 8 tracks...and was making hits.....not just rap music
i dont think it matters what program ur using. Its all about the sounds man. Its pretty hard to make some tight shit with some casio sounds. Now if u got an ear for tight sounds then u should be good for makin good music. Not saying u'd get rich off of it but they should end up sounding pretty good. Thats why people sample IMO.
Yeah, that's true for the most part. I personally can't stand weak drum sounds, gotta find good ones that slap. Funny thing is, it seems like producers now days are actually using Casio sounds, stupid little noises like blips, zaps and other FX noises that sound corny, I don't get it. :ermm: Some of that shit out there doesn't make me want to dance, makes me shake my head in dissapointment.
Yeah, we got a lot of shit now days. NO reason to really complain. The home studio is very affordable. BTW, that Reaper program is pretty cool. I remember it started off as freeware and looking like a Acid clone (nearly identical to Acid), now it's evolved into a beastly program that rivals the waaaay more expensive programs. I would fuck with it, I'm just not used to that Linear way. I'm used to seeing shit in blocks and midi, not waveforms.
I've sent alot of stuff for various people out to get mixed, and they almost always mix in pro tools. Not that you really have to create your shit on Pro tools, but alot of people do use it more than anything I've came across when it comes to mixing stuff down. But that's not really the thread topic I guess. Beware! You've entered the home for hardware/software debate!
Get an MPC___Go listen to the people who are recommending FL and other stuff, and compare it to us MPC guys.. lol
Get an MPC___Go listen to the people who are recommending FL and other stuff, and compare it to us MPC guys.. lol
I do not dis agree with this I was more or less saying along the lines that most people on here need a reality check because they aint making money at this and
probably wont ever see the day they take there songs to another studio to mixdown, and if and when they do i can only imagine what the engineer will be thinking in the back of his head and the work that lies ahead of him when they bring shit recorded poorly etc...Although at this day and age its hard for me to imagine that with a pro tools LE that they cant record some clean tracks, but a few months back my boy was mixing for this group from watts and i couldnt believe how horrible that shit sounded.
probably wont ever see the day they take there songs to another studio to mixdown, and if and when they do i can only imagine what the engineer will be thinking in the back of his head and the work that lies ahead of him when they bring shit recorded poorly etc...Although at this day and age its hard for me to imagine that with a pro tools LE that they cant record some clean tracks, but a few months back my boy was mixing for this group from watts and i couldnt believe how horrible that shit sounded.
I guess it's about time to post this again...
The reason ProTools is an 'industry standard' recording & mixing platform is because when it first came out, there was no competition, literally. The market was wide open and they held 100% of it for a very long time because it took a while for the price & performance of pc's to match and surpass Mac. Now days there are several alternatives which are just as good or better in many areas but aside of the fact that ProTools has serious brand recognition (how many times have you heard someone say they're getting ProTools 'cuz it's ProTools'?), countless studios are heavily invested in ProTools rigs, equipment, and knowledge & experience. There's no good reason to dump it for something else. What I have seen however, is studios investing in other setups (like Cubase for example) so they can accomodate the growing number of people who are using those alternatives.
The truth is in this day & age of technology you can record something in a relatively inexpensive home studio, and some professional know-how, that sounds like it was done in a million dollar recording facility. And I stress the part about professional know-how since people are so easily mislead.
The reason ProTools is an 'industry standard' recording & mixing platform is because when it first came out, there was no competition, literally. The market was wide open and they held 100% of it for a very long time because it took a while for the price & performance of pc's to match and surpass Mac. Now days there are several alternatives which are just as good or better in many areas but aside of the fact that ProTools has serious brand recognition (how many times have you heard someone say they're getting ProTools 'cuz it's ProTools'?), countless studios are heavily invested in ProTools rigs, equipment, and knowledge & experience. There's no good reason to dump it for something else. What I have seen however, is studios investing in other setups (like Cubase for example) so they can accomodate the growing number of people who are using those alternatives.
The truth is in this day & age of technology you can record something in a relatively inexpensive home studio, and some professional know-how, that sounds like it was done in a million dollar recording facility. And I stress the part about professional know-how since people are so easily mislead.
I agree..especially on the professional know how, I am sure the majority of aspiring producers/engineers never utilize the potential of their gear,and always looking for the miracle gear...
My question is when you referred to the relatively inexpensive home set-up sounding comparable to the million dollar facility what would you consider relatively cheap. Also..for entertainments sake (because sound is subjective) lets just say someone created all there beats I.T.B. (in the box). besides the microphone and pre-amp going through the computers A/d converters, to achieve this sound do you think that some form of analog needs to be introduced to the tracks, such as a summing buss or even an eq or compressor? My boy just got the neve 8816 summing buss, but BOB KATZ said that just running your stereo mix through a analog eq or compressor, or pre amp will make the same improvement...I can get more into detail but for now Ill leave it at that. My opinion is something along the lines of Bob katz as well.
My question is when you referred to the relatively inexpensive home set-up sounding comparable to the million dollar facility what would you consider relatively cheap. Also..for entertainments sake (because sound is subjective) lets just say someone created all there beats I.T.B. (in the box). besides the microphone and pre-amp going through the computers A/d converters, to achieve this sound do you think that some form of analog needs to be introduced to the tracks, such as a summing buss or even an eq or compressor? My boy just got the neve 8816 summing buss, but BOB KATZ said that just running your stereo mix through a analog eq or compressor, or pre amp will make the same improvement...I can get more into detail but for now Ill leave it at that. My opinion is something along the lines of Bob katz as well.
@50cal:
I agree with Bob Katz on that as well. I'm sure there's people who would love to argue it though.
About 'relatively inexpensive'.. Depending on the deals you get (assuming used gear of course) and the type of setup you go with, anywhere from a few grand to under 10. There are things you just never want to skimp on and that's where most of the expense comes from.
I agree with Bob Katz on that as well. I'm sure there's people who would love to argue it though.
About 'relatively inexpensive'.. Depending on the deals you get (assuming used gear of course) and the type of setup you go with, anywhere from a few grand to under 10. There are things you just never want to skimp on and that's where most of the expense comes from.