MOSS ON THE BUBBLE?

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MOSS ON THE BUBBLE?

There's talk among some league insiders that the New England Patriots are considering whether to release receiver Randy Moss.

Seriously.

We scoffed when we heard it, but then a source explained that the question the Pats are believed to be pondering is whether Moss will become a problem if he is not a focal point of the offense -- or if he isn't in the opening-day starting lineup.

And we agree that this sounds crazy. Exactly as crazy as, say, any rumors that would have been making the rounds on Friday morning that the Jaguars were planning to part ways with Byron Leftwich.

Moss currently is listed as one of the starters at receiver, along with Donte' Stallworth. But Moss suffered a pulled hamstring several weeks ago and has seen only limited duty since then, opening the door for other wideouts to show what they can do.

If this rumor is true, the only logical explanation is that the Pats are wrestling with whether Moss is a luxury that they don't need in order to be successful -- and whether his presence could actually keep them from their goals if he is unhappy with his role.

As we see it, however, it would be easy enough to dump him if he turns out to be a problem. The only financial risk would be his $2.5 million base salary, which becomes guaranteed if he's on the roster when the regular season begins (if he is released and chooses to take the rest of the money as his one-time termination pay).

Then again, maybe coach Bill Belichick doesn't want to divert his attention from getting the team ready to play by monitoring whether a grown man is behaving like one.

The situation bears watching as Saturday unfolds. Even if Moss stays, there's sure to be plenty of upheaval at the receiver position as final cuts are made, given that ten receivers are still on the roster, including Moss, Stallworth, Wes Welker, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Kelley Washington, Bam Childress, Kelvin Kight, Chris Dunlap, and C.J. Jones. (Chad Jackson and Troy Brown are still on the PUP list.)
 

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where did this come from? if its from profootballtalk.com allow me a moment to print this out. i have to take a shit and im out of toilet paper.
 
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POSTED 8:54 p.m. EDT, September 1, 2007

MOSS MAKES IT (FOR NOW) WITH PATS, BUT SEYMOUR GETS PUP'ED

The New England Patriots have made their mandatory reduction to 53 players. Receiver Randy Moss has made the cut, for now. Earlier on Saturday, we reported on rumors in league circles that the Pats were wrestling with whether to let Moss go, due to concerns that he might not react well if he isn't the focal point of the offense.

The biggest news for the Patriots is that defensive end Richard Seymour, who's on track for immortalization in Canton, was placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list, which means that he will miss at least the first six weeks of the regular season.

Released were the following: CB Larry Anam, LB Chad Brown, WR Bam Childress, WR Chris Dunlap, G/C Mike Elgin (a seventh-round pick in 2007), T Corey Hilliard (a sixth-round pick in 2007), TE Brian Jones, WR C.J. Jones, WR Kelvin Kight, LB Corey Mays, TE Garrett Mills (a fourth-round pick in 2006), DL Rashad Moore, G/C Gene Mruczkowski, T Clint Oldenburg (a fifth-round pick in 2007), TE Marcellus Rivers, LB Justin Rogers (a sixth-round pick in 2007), RB Quinton Smith, QB Vinny Testaverde, DE Santonio Thomas, CB Dante Wesley, and DL Zach West.

Bottom line? Four second-day 2007 draft picks were cut in one day by the Patriots.

The Pats have six receivers on the roster -- Moss, Donte' Stallworth, Jabar Gaffney, Reche Caldwell, Wes Welker, and Kelley Washington. Troy Brown and Chad Jackson are on the PUP list, and could return after Week Six. Thus, there's a chance that another receiver could be dumped, or possibly traded, before the start of the regular season.
 

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Superfly Snuka said:
Bottom line? Four second-day 2007 draft picks were cut in one day by the Patriots.
so the patriots cut some 2007 draft picks and they're genius for it, but the raiders cut 2007 draft picks and its we don't know how to run a franchise :rolleyes:
 

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vinny testaverde? NO!



edit: ok wow, i was looking at testaverdes career stats...his second year in the league (1988!) he played 15 games, threw for 3240 yards, but had 35 interceptions. he was 222 for 466 passing (47.6 percent) and had a rating of 48. wow, 35 ints.
 

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Defy said:
so the patriots cut some 2007 draft picks and they're genius for it, but the raiders cut 2007 draft picks and its we don't know how to run a franchise :rolleyes:

Maybe because New England has proven they can win with what other teams call scrubs. Or they can get to the AFC Championship with alot of scrubs on offense. Or maybe its because they actually have had winning records the past few years.

The Raiders on the other hand are run horribly. A team who had the 1st pick in the draft and haven't signed him yet or failed to really upgrade an offense to go with their good defense.


Anyway I doubt the validity of this rumor. Maybe he's fodder because he has been injured, but he hasn't even caused a fuss yet. I doubt the patriots would have traded for him without assurances that he would behave. And even if they didn't, Corey Dillon was just fine there
 
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POSTED 10:15 a.m. EDT, September 2, 2007

MOSS RUMORS DON'T DIE

We are hearing more -- not less -- of those rumors that the Patriots might pull the plug prematurely on the Randy Moss experiment.

The talk is intensifying in the media, and among league insiders. One league source tells us that Moss is "bitching quietly" about his perceived role in the offense. A media source says that "where there's smoke there's fire" on this story.

Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald mentions the rumors, and reports that Tim DiPiero, who represents Moss, had not heard of any potential issues with the former Pro Bowler whose arrival in New England has helped to push expectations higher than ever.

Though Moss was not released on Saturday, the team could still dump him prior to next weekend and avoid responsibility for his $2.5 million salary. As we mentioned on Saturday night, the Pats currently have six receivers on the roster -- Moss, Donte' Stallworth, Wes Welker, Jabar Gaffney, Reche Caldwell, and Kelley Washington. (Troy Brown and Chad Jackson are on the PUP list.)

Notably absent are any youngsters who would try to earn reps with the offense in the future through heavy involvement in special teams. As the roster is currently configured, guys like Gaffney and Caldwell (both starters in 2006) and Washington would be used for punt/kick coverage/return teams.

Could it be that the Pats will try to shop Moss to someone like the Packers or the Vikings before cutting him? Though Minnesota coach and former Eagles offensive coordinator Brad Childress surely has no interest in acquiring another potential T.O., owner Zygi Wilf might conclude that a return by Randy could be the way to sell out all of the seats for 2007.
 
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they both got 3...
I'm talking about in the last 20 years, at least.. Raiders have been irrelevant in football since the Patriots, actually, knocked them out of the playoffs on there way to there first superbowl, I believe.
 
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Glad to see the Patriots, with one of the BEST front offices in the league, kept their two Florida WR's, in Caldwell and Gaffney.

But with Moss...it's a matter of does the rewards outweigh the risks, and for the Patriots, I'd say no.

Cut him.
 

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Robby2Slobby said:
I'm talking about in the last 20 years, at least.. Raiders have been irrelevant in football since the Patriots, actually, knocked them out of the playoffs on there way to there first superbowl, I believe.
right, because we didn't go to the superbowl the year before that.....