Moss’ growth minimal: First camp looks like slow-motion

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Moss’ growth minimal: First camp looks like slow-motion replay
By Michael Felger/ Patriots Insider
Boston Herald Patriots Beat Columnist
Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - Updated: 06:29 AM EST

FOXBORO - If you want to get excited about Randy Moss and what he’ll bring to the Patriots [team stats] in 2007, here’s a bit of advice:
Don’t watch him practice.
That was the impression made during the four days of non-contact workouts the media was allowed to watch last week at Gillette Stadium.
Perhaps Moss will ramp it up when training camp opens July 27, but if minicamp was any indication, fans probably shouldn’t expect any fireworks.
Nearly every regional and national media outlet was there to record Moss’ Patriots introduction, and most reports focused on the promise he brings to Tom Brady [stats] and the offense. Many dispatches also made sure to point out the three or four nice catches he made during those four days. In addition, Moss spoke to the media for about nine minutes Wednesday, which might have distracted the fourth estate from reporting what Moss actually did on the practice field.
Which, in short, wasn’t much.
While newcomers Wes Welker, Donte’ Stallworth and Kyle Brady hustled through their first days on the job, and veterans such as Tom Brady, Rodney Harrison [stats] and Tedy Bruschi [stats] continued to exemplify the Patriots Way, Moss moved at his own pace. He rarely dug in. More often than not, he glided. On balance, the most talented receiver of this generation was just another guy.
You’d have thought Moss would have taken the opportunity to make an early statement, maybe run from drill to drill across the field, lead the sprints at the end of practice, blow by the slower and smaller players trying to cover him, whatever. Show a little hustle. Little things.
But it pretty much was the opposite. Moss was content to remain in the pack. He never was first in line. He certainly didn’t make defensive backs look foolish. Aside from climbing the ladder once or twice on high throws, he didn’t give any hints of his prodigious physical gifts. It’s true the entire proceedings were run at about three-quarters speed, but that didn’t stop Brady, Welker and Harrison from giving full effort. Moss’speedometer seemed stuck at around 60 percent.
On Day 1, Moss stretched by himself while the rest of the team was in formation. On Day 4, coach Bill Belichick put his veterans through an extended session of field-length sprints (gassers). Moss was the last player in his position group to cross the end line on just about every one.
Based on his performance, it was as if Moss was saying, “I don’t care how I’m viewed. I don’t care about my reputation. I’m going about business the same way.”
In fact, that pretty much is what he said.
“To be honest with you,” Moss said, “I don’t plan on changing.”
In one regard, the statement showed some pride. Moss is no robot, and he clearly felt no need to put on a dog-and-pony show just because people expected him to. Perhaps he feels giving in like that diminishes what he’s done to this point of his Hall of Fame career. Fine.
But isn’t the comment a little scary coming from someone whose career just might be defined by this season?
Moss’ talent is beyond question. His numbers are cemented in the record books. But can he be a professional and an adult on a team defined by its work ethic? Can he be a trustworthy teammate and do all the little things it takes to be a champion? The Patriots have given Moss the opportunity to salvage a damaged reputation, just as they did with Corey Dillon [stats] in 2004. But does Moss understand the chance he’s been given?
On one level, the Patriots had better hope Moss was dogging it at minicamp, because if the performance was an actual indication of what Moss has left in the tank, the entire character discussion will become moot.
Moss’ former coaches in Oakland believe he lost his legs at some point the past few years. Art Shell laughed at reports of Moss running a sub-4.30 in the 40-yard dash two months ago. In a glowing report yesterday, Sports Illustrated’s Peter King quoted Harrison as saying there “ain’t no way (Moss has) lost his legs,” which might be true. It’s just that those legs weren’t on display while the cameras were rolling.
So maybe Moss simply didn’t want to bust out in his first week of practice. No problem. It’s only minicamp. Moss also didn’t want to give in to the character questions, which is fine, too. It’s June.
Talk to you again in September.
Nothing new here
Here’s another bit of advice if you’re looking to get excited about Moss:
Don’t listen to his teammates discuss his arrival, at least on the record.
It was obvious from the minicamp that Belichick put the kibosh on any over-the-top commentary on the Pats’ new, big-name acquisitions - whether it be Moss, Adalius Thomas or Stallworth. If you asked any Patriots player if there was any more buzz around Foxboro this summer because of the personnel spree, you got a team-first response.
Fullback Heath Evans [stats] gave a typical quote.
“You can add guys, but it’s still about this team,” Evans said. “I know at home (in Florida), at church and everything, everyone is excited. But expectations mean nothing. It’s still about the team. However Bill and Scott (Pioli) have been able to create that here is amazing. Is there excitement? Sure. But it’s for the team.”
Added cornerback Ellis Hobbs [stats]: “No one is on a pedestal here.”
Cool your Jets
Let’s just get one thing straight.
Hell will freeze over before the Patriots allow holdout, franchised corner Asante Samuel [stats] to bolt to the Jets - unless New York is willing to part with two first-round draft choices. Of course, it will also take hell freezing over before Eric Mangini gives Belichick and Pioli two first-rounders.
So there is no practical way for Samuel to end up with the Jets, just as there was no prayer of Deion Branch going to New York last year. So any conversations the Jets have with Samuel are done with only the intention of poisoning the waters in New England.
CAREER PATH
Randy Moss’ per-season averages over each third of his nine-year career.
1998-2000 (Minnesota)
Catches: 75.3
Touchdowns: 14.3
Yards: 1,387.6
2001-2003 (Minnesota)
Catches: 99.6
Touchdowns: 11.3
Yards: 1,404
2004-2006 (Minnesota/Oakland)
Catches: 50.3
Touchdowns: 8
Yards: 775
Text by Michael Felger


Michael Felger can be reached at [email protected] and heard weekdays, 3-6 p.m., on AM-890, ESPN Radio.
 
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hes just toying wit everyone, i watched him play in sota and hes a beast, he still got it. It was the raiders fault not his, the raiders can ruin anybody
 
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coondogg26 said:
hes just toying wit everyone, i watched him play in sota and hes a beast, he still got it. It was the raiders fault not his, the raiders can ruin anybody
disagree, has Sapp slacked off like moss? Giving up on routes, bitching, no caring...thats the Raiders fault?

The Raiders fucked up by signing Collins, passing on drafting a QB last year then signing Brooks over Breese. But in no way does that merit Moss's attitude and work ethic.
 

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disagree, has Sapp slacked off like moss? Giving up on routes, bitching, no caring...thats the Raiders fault?

The Raiders fucked up by signing Collins, passing on drafting a QB last year then signing Brooks over Breese. But in no way does that merit Moss's attitude and work ethic.

nice point made
 
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u would have a bad attitude too if u were the best wide receiver in the game playing on the worst team in the league. ur right the raiders did fuck up big time and Moss had all the right in the world to be upset, after a while ur gonna give up because its a lost cause.
 

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coondogg26 said:
u would have a bad attitude too if u were the best wide receiver in the game playing on the worst team in the league. ur right the raiders did fuck up big time and Moss had all the right in the world to be upset, after a while ur gonna give up because its a lost cause.
U MAD?
 
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coondogg26 said:
Moss had all the right in the world to be upset, after a while ur gonna give up because its a lost cause.
Disagree, when your getting paid millions its not a lost cause. Even if its all to pad your own stats for an even bigger payday down the road. There is no reason to give up. He could have been a leader, a motivater, someone who helped bring the team together, not tear it apart. He fucked off any kinda relationship he had with brooks and prolly didnt work closly with him to improve thier relationship on and off the field
 
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coondogg26 said:
hes just toying wit everyone, i watched him play in sota and hes a beast, he still got it. It was the raiders fault not his, the raiders can ruin anybody
Uhhh....Moss hasnt played in Minny in over 4 years...what the fuck does that hyave to do with him NOW?

Thats like watching Jordan play for the Wizards and saying," nah he is still good...did you watch him when he played for the Bulls....in 93?"
 
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Uhhh....Moss hasnt played in Minny in over 4 years...what the fuck does that hyave to do with him NOW?

Thats like watching Jordan play for the Wizards and saying," nah he is still good...did you watch him when he played for the Bulls....in 93?"
really? 2004 is over 4 years ago? damn i didnt know it is 2009 already. Jordans different he retired and came back 3 years later and was 39 when he played for the wizards, randy was what like 28 when he went to the raiders, big difference
 
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I fucken hate randy moss. I was glad when the raiders picked him up cause I knew they would fuck him up. I didn't want moss threatning any of rice's records. But I know he is going to atleast have like 12 tds this season. Brady will find a way to get the ball to him. Brady imo is still the best qb in the league.
 
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Masked Lemon said:
Moss is going to fuck that team up, and I couldn't be happier.


Fuck the Patriots.
^^^^ this will never happen for the simple fact if he starts slackin off and being a whinny little bitch the pats will cut him very quick like, ecspecially considering the pats signed what 4 other wr's this off season... pats are going to be good again this year and the next 5 years so people should just face reality quit hatin and start wondering why your teams cant do the shit
 

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^^^^ this will never happen for the simple fact if he starts slackin off and being a whinny little bitch the pats will cut him very quick like, ecspecially considering the pats signed what 4 other wr's this off season... pats are going to be good again this year and the next 5 years so people should just face reality quit hatin and start wondering why your teams cant do the shit
they said the the same about when Deion sanders with cowboys, they only one SB
 
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coondogg26 said:
really? 2004 is over 4 years ago? damn i didnt know it is 2009 already. Jordans different he retired and came back 3 years later and was 39 when he played for the wizards, randy was what like 28 when he went to the raiders, big difference
Minny was 3 years ago and he is what, over 30 now? Cmon bro, use your fuckin head....please. To think Moss is gonna be the same reciever he was at 24 when he is 30 after playing sub-par for thew worst team in the league...is just plain IGNORANT.
 
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Brady imo is still the best qb in the league.
Man i dont know bout that one. I am goin with Peyton i mean who else reads a defense as good as he does at the line and makes the right call nearly everytime. Yea bradys got more rings but as far as wins they are neck and neck. Now who has the better Qb rating tho?. it is a tie for first as far as who is the best overall i'd want either one on my team