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2-0-Sixx

Sicc OG
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Discuss his legacy:

Your thoughts, comments, observations regarding MLK, speak on the contraversy surrounding his death, etc., in honor of MLK.

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Martin Luther King Jr. in his later days did start to explore socialism; his views evolved and he understood that the main problem was not simply racism, it was capitalism.

"There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism." – MLK 1966

“I am now convinced that the simplest approach will prove the most effective — the solution to poverty is to abolish it directly by a now widely discussed measure: the guaranteed income.”- MLK

“The dispossessed of this country — the poor, the white and Negro — live in a cruelly unjust society. They must organize a revolution against that injustice, not against the lives of the persons who are their fellow citizens, but against the structures through which society is refusing to take means which have been called for, and which are at hand, to lift the load of poverty.”-MLK
 
Gizmo

Gizmo

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sad thing is he would have never made Pres either way. I seen heela "Blacks" walking around talking about him today but truth be told he never stood up strictly for them. He stood for equality for all. He is now getting slapped in the face by the ones he originally wanted to help. The youth dont care about him or his causes, That is plain to see on a day to day basis in the hood. They speak good on him but will never follow his ways or be able to do more than take a day off or attend a rally with a MLK Tee on. Most anyway.

Dont take this as down talk, just truth. Prove me wrong cause the same kids who marched today will be in a hood near you doing EVERYTHING he was agaist tomorrow. Instead of taking the torch and running with it they smother it in 40's only to re-light it every year with Hennessy. Who is taking his Legacy foward? Better yet who is taking his Causes foward?
 
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Some Random Asshole
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I think it's sad how schools have a day off, on a day that should be devoted to educating people about what he was trying to do, but one day isn't good enough.

I also think it's sad how people use his message for their own personal gain, he spoke about equality for everyone, so for one group to say he only stood for them is ridiculous.

But, what do you expect from a generation that doesn't even know what the fucking FIRST AMENDMENT says?
 
MEXCOM

MEXCOM

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I personally believe that MLK was the lesser of two evils. Black complacency. I guess I'm more of an extremist and readily believe more in NOI Malcolm.
 
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My Dead Grandmother Was A Whore
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"peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality." - MLK - March 25, 1968, less than two weeks before his tragic death

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism." - MLK
 
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Some Random Asshole
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mob shit said:
"peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality." - MLK - March 25, 1968, less than two weeks before his tragic death

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism." - MLK
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Sounds like he needed to read a little bit more and not be so Pro-America.

If you can't criticize people, nothing will change. Society has changed...in this day in age, I think other people's ideas would work much better...
 
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Some Random Asshole
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I'm not saying that peace is not a good way to get your message across, well, I sort of am.

Personally, I think that peace is the best solution. But most of America doesn't understand the concept, even though they apparently "Love Jesus" or whatever the fuck they claim.

If people try to make our country better because Jesus told them to, this country DOES need to be slapped off the face of the Earth.

Back to the point, peace and sit ins don't work anymore. You have to protest, make a big ass deal out of shit, and FORCE yourself into the spotlight so people can at least hear your point of view....back then, it seems like everyone was doing sit ins and protests, now everyone gets online and bitches about shit, but when it comes down to it, they don't even care about the subject once they're not online, or in front of like minded people.

No matter where I go or who I am with, I talk about shit like this, things to help change the country, things that are going wrong, the more people that hear it, the better.
 
Gizmo

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Thats the thing though. The Sit ins and Protests got them the spotlight. But when you have 1000 people nowadays marching for a cause like Immigration or War and half the people there do not understand what they are marching for just that thier uncle or mom marches then it becomes a lost cause. It is the cool thing to do now a days. March, Protest, Make noise.... Hey why dont those same people spend 3 hours by them self in a lobby waiting to see there representatives? No Glory there thats why. Wanting change is one thing. Drawing up a plan to make that change is something totally different.
 
nhojsmith

nhojsmith

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mlk opened a lot of doors for minorities, by minorities i simply mean non-white colonial aggressor, so i owe him thanks.

however, of course i will stir it up, i dont think the federal government should have stepped in and used financial incentives to encourage states accepting the holiday and to punish others that didnt pass it when it was brought to a vote, ie arizona. this has nothing to do with MLK, but states rights. i for one am a proponent of the United STATES, not the united state.
 
MEXCOM

MEXCOM

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Feb 9, 2003
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Malcolm X

You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong no matter who does it or says it.

Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it.

Speaking like this doesn't mean we are anti-white, but it does mean we're anti-exploitation, we're anti-degradation, we're anti-oppression.

The political philosophy of black nationalism means that the black man should control the politics and the politicians in his own community; no more.

and my favorite:

"I want Dr. King to know that I didn't come to Selma to make his job difficult. I really did come thinking I could make it easier. If the white people realize what the alternative is, perhaps they will be more willing to hear Dr. King."
 
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Would any one object to the Idea/Opinion that maybe Muhammad Ali had more of an impact then MLK or Malcolm? There are some that argue he did, because the way he spoke.
 
ParkBoyz

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WHITE DEVIL said:
Well you know you have MLK, Malcolm X, and Barry Bonds, and many argue that Barry's homerun record makes him a much larger force in American history.
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How is that when Barry doesn't have his own National Holiday? We're being forced to remember MLK at least once a year. Cut the sarcasm.
 
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