MISCOMMUNICATIONS & CORRECTIONS

[TAY CAPONE1]

LET'S KEEP THIS CONVO LEGITIMATE & KNOWLEDGEFUL.....I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH IT BUT I DID WATCH AWAX'S PROOF HUSALAH IS A SNITCH VIDEO & I JUST WANTED 2 SAY...I DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY'S BACCGROUND BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS LIFESTYLE 4 AWHILE & ACTUALLY KNEW A LOT OF REAL BALLERS...IN THIS CASE HUS WAS MAKING WHAT WE WOULD CALL A "RUN"...WHICH MEANS THE DRUGS BEING TRANSPORTED WEREN'T HIS...I'VE BEEN IN A SIMILAR SITUATION BEFORE & WAS ARRESTED WITH x AMOUNT OF DRUGS(NOT NO LIL SHIT)...I WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON IN THE CAR & I KNOW THE LAW SO THERE WAS NO WAY I WOULD ADMIT....I TOOK THE FIFTH AMENDMENT...IF I WOULD HAVE TALKED WE ALL WOULD HAVE WENT DOWN...I TOLD THE OFFICER I KNEW THE PEOPLE BUT DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE CAR...WHICH WAS THE TRUTH...ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED STUCC TOGETHER & TOOK IT 2 TRIAL EXCEPT 4 1 PERSON...HE DIDN'T SNITCH ON ANYBODY ELSE BUT HE TOOK A DEAL....HE WAS SENTENCED 2 LESS TIME THAN HUS RECIEVED BUT I DIDN'T RUN AROUND CALLING HIM A SNITCH...HE JUST TOOK A DEAL..THE OTHER 2 IN THE CAR FOUGHT THE CASE & TOOK IT 2 TRIAL & WERE NOT CONVICTED OF ANYTHING...THIS WAS A LONG PROCESS(LIKE A YEAR)BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE DO GET LENIENCY IN SENTENCING 4 TELLING THE TRUTH...I FEEL HUS MAY HAVE TAKEN A DEAL BUT IF HE REALLY SNITCHED OR RATTED ON SOMEONE WITH THAT MUCH WORK...HE WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN GOT 4 YEARS...SNITCHING IS A TERRIBLE THING IN THE STREETS & EVERY MAN WHO DOES IT HAS THE POSSIBILITY OF KARMA COMING BACC 2 MAKE THINGS EVEN....I DON'T CONDONE IT 1 BIT & NEVER WILL...I HAVE LOST ACTUAL FRIENDSHIPS OVER MY BELIEFS ON THE MATTER...I DON'T WANT 2 DWELL ON THIS SHIT BUT I JUST WANTED 2 MAKE MY UNDERSTANDING KNOWN...SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A SNITCH REALLY IS...NOW,LET ME ASK THIS:
IF A PERSON GETS SHOT BUT DOESN'T DIE & THEN CO-OPERATES WITH THE POLICE IN HAVING THE SHOOTER PROSECUTED...DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???
IF YOU AND YOUR HOMIE GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS & THE POLICE PUT IT ON HIM BECUZ HE HAS THE WORSE JAIL RECORD & THEN THEY OFFER YOU IMMUNITY & YOU TAKE THE STAND & DON'T TELL ON YOUR PARTNER BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION..DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???

I KNOW SOME REAL GANGSTAS THAT HAVE ROLLED OVER 4 THE SAKE OF THEMSELVES OR BEING WITH THEIR KIDS...I CAN'T SAY SNITCHING IS NEVER JUSTIFIABLE BUT I FEEL IF YOU ARE GOING 2 PLAY THE GAME YOU NEED 2 BE MAN ENOUGH 2 ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES...YOU KNOW-"DO THE CRIME,DO THE TIME"...I SEE PEOPLE GO 2 JAIL 4 ILL SHIT & GET OUT IN 2 MONTHS...I SUSPECT THEY TOLD BUT I DON'T SLANDER THEM UNLESS I'VE SEEN PAPERWORK...THE RULES 2 THE GAME SHOULD BE RE-ENFORCED...THEN ALL THIS SHIT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE...I'D LIKE 2 THANK EVERYBODY 4 THEIR TIME & KNOWLEDGE CUZ IT ACTUALLY HELPS SOME OF US...I NOTICED YESTERDAY SOMEONE SAID HUS WAS UP UNDER ME...THAT WAS NOT A FACTUAL STATEMENT...FACTS CANNOT BE DEFEATED...HEARSAY IS THE CAUSE OF ALOT OF SENSELESS MURDERS & CONSTANT INTERNET ARGUMENTS WHEN IN REALITY ALL THAT HAS 2 BE DONE IS SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH...I LOVE THE TRUTH..LET'S MAKE 09 A GOOD PRODUCTIVE YEAR...THE PAST CAN'T BE CHANGED...WE ALL NEED 2 GET BETTER...I'M BEING A REAL MAN & ADMITTING MY WRONGS OR LACC OF KNOWLEDGE OF SITUATIONS....PEOPLE NEED 2 BE REAL WITH THEMSELVES..THEN IT'S PRETTY EASY 2 BE REAL WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!!!100 & GOD BLESS!!

 

[Young Lou]

It's a thin line between snitching and telling the truth. It's in the eyes of the beholder nowadays cause everyone is saying stop snitching stop lying. CAMRON thinks if you tell on a child molester it's snitching and I beg to differ.

I agree if you in the game you better be prepared for the consequences. Focusing on the positive things in life always helps. Stay away from drugs!!!

 

[BIGCHILL]

IF A PERSON GETS SHOT BUT DOESN'T DIE & THEN CO-OPERATES WITH THE POLICE IN HAVING THE SHOOTER PROSECUTED...DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???

YES,IF YOUR IN THE HOOD AND CALL YOURSELF A GANGSTA OR WHATEVER,YOU DONT TELL THE LAW OR GIVE THEM INFO TO GET THEM INVOLVED,YOU HOLD COURT IN THE STREETS.


IF YOU AND YOUR HOMIE GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS & THE POLICE PUT IT ON HIM BECUZ HE HAS THE WORSE JAIL RECORD & THEN THEY OFFER YOU IMMUNITY & YOU TAKE THE STAND & DON'T TELL ON YOUR PARTNER BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION..DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???

SOMEBODY GOTTA GO DOWN FOR THE DOPE,IF ITS BOTH OF YALLS I THINK THE PERSON WITH THE LESS RECORD SHOULD TAKE THE CHARGE.IF THE NEXT PERSON TAKES THE STAND BUT PLEADS THE 5TH HES NOT A SNITCH.BUT IF HE GIVES INFO THAT CAN HARM THE NEXT MANS CASE FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT,HE CRACKED UNDER PRESSURE AND IS NOW A SNITCH.

 

[pharoah]

people don't realize if the case don't hit kingpin status which usually start at 20 sentencing can run all over the place. there are just too many deviations in the feds and what district you in to really say if somebody is telling. you really gotta see the transcripts or someone has to say 'that man testified in open court against xyz' said you can suspect and assume all you want but you better have real ammunition when you pull out that gun

 

[fringey]

even if your not in the hood you do not snitch its a code of every day living. my causin was locked up around 9 years ago for transporting around 6 kilos of heroine . The fucked up thing was he was on a motorway when his mutherfuhking car broke down . the highway police came by he tried to do a runner but they caught up to him and locked him up for 7 years . The police tried to make a deal with him by telling him who he was transporting the shit to but he didnt snitch and served his time .

 

[pharoah]

how about this?

a homie is giving me a ride we get pulled over, i put my strap under the seat and he don't know it. they pull us out the car and find the gun and charge him because it's his car. he honestly say he ain't never seen that gun before. since i'm standing there not claiming it and he says you didn't get that shit from under my seat is that snitching?

 

[fringey]

a homie is giving me a ride we get pulled over, i put my strap under the seat and he don't know it. they pull us out the car and find the gun and charge him because it's his car. he honestly say he ain't never seen that gun before. since i'm standing there not claiming it and he says you didn't get that shit from under my seat is that snitching?

if he gets locked up for a gun being found in his car then you should be man enough and own up to that shit .

 

[Gas One]

NOW,LET ME ASK THIS:
IF A PERSON GETS SHOT BUT DOESN'T DIE & THEN CO-OPERATES WITH THE POLICE IN HAVING THE SHOOTER PROSECUTED...DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???
IF YOU AND YOUR HOMIE GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS & THE POLICE PUT IT ON HIM BECUZ HE HAS THE WORSE JAIL RECORD & THEN THEY OFFER YOU IMMUNITY & YOU TAKE THE STAND & DON'T TELL ON YOUR PARTNER BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION..DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???

first question....it depends on the character of both the shooter and the person who was shot and the circumstances involving what led to the shooting..since its a hypothetical question and billions of peopel with different characters and personalities exist..who knows? that shooting could be anything from johnny with the trenchcoat shooting up the school or two seasoned drug dealers having a shootout over a drug deal...your question is way too broad.

second question...i would never be around another person with drugs...if its in his hand its his if its in mine, its mine.. thats why niggas dont like to drive cross town to deliver pounds, you pick your shit up and find your way back..theres too much possibility for funny shit and someone smelling a rat between that time...i dont go halfsies on packs...nor would i take the stand on my homie....for anything...if we had it worked out that one of us would take the fall thats how it works..what information are you speaking of...really no information should go past what you were being stopped for, what was found, whos was it if anyones and the story behind that...you can tell the cops anything you want....but obviously the story has to be straight or youre going to look like theres somethin up..


the way i look at it is you look at those things from a third persons view and apply the law to yourself and the person youre with (once again ...i wouldnt do that) and have a script to stick to..

i wouldnt call a person who didnt stick to the script a snitch

id call them a fuck up

i know someone whos in jail right now for not giving any info and they had alot riding...kids and all...so...it is what it is...i say decide how you want to be respected bny your peers..if you dont live that type of life then whos there to call you a snitch? but dont change your personality when the laws enter the system...its when friends become two faced that people wanna murder them over it...


thats just my opinion im sure you know better

if i wasnt clear, i would never say some 'that is his' or 'he did it' type shit...never a finger pointed at a person..i only take accountability for myself and no offbrand ass shit...if i had to id take extra time for not pointing at the homie.

 

[pharoah]

if he gets locked up for a gun being found in his car then you should be man enough and own up to that shit .

i'm coming from the point of view if the person don't step up and you give the statement it ain't mine and wasn't under my seat. that person could then be accused of snitching. the point is you can't accept hearsay on who's snitching a janky person or a person with a axe to grind can twist a situation and make damn near anyone look like they telling.

 

[TAY CAPONE1]

SEE,THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT....SOME KNOWLEDGEFUL INFO...I INTENDED 4 THE QUESTION 2 BE BROAD CUZ 1)SNITCHIN IS A BROAD SUBJECT AND THERE ARE MANY FORMS OF IT...2)THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE ON THESE BOARDS(PROBABLY INCLUDING POPO)FROM DIFFERENT PLACES,COUNTRIES & RACIAL BACCGROUNDS..THE VERY SAME PEOPLE THAT POST ON THE SITE TALK DOWN ON IT BUT 2 ME IT'S KNOWLEDGEFUL,HELPFUL & IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BECOME PART OF MY PROGRAM...IT COULD BE A LEARNING INSTITUTE 4 SOME & A BATTLEFIELD 4 OTHERS...I JUST FEEL THE REAL NEED 2 SPEAK UP & MOTIVATE SOME OF THESE HATERS INSTEAD OF ALL THE CROSSTALK.THIS IS WEST COAST BASED SO IT'S AN INSTRUMENT IN MY CAREER METHODS & A GOOD OUTLET...C-BO USED 2 POST HERE BUT THE FUN OF IT WAS LOST WHEN ALL THESE OPINIONATED PEOPLE COULDN'T HOLD AN ADULT CONVERSATION ONLINE....PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE SO JUDGEMENTAL..IF IT'S REAL,IT'S GOOD WITH ME...THE BITCHASSEDNESS GOTTA GO...I'M EVEN LEARNING HOW 2 DEAL WITH SOME PEOPLE BUT A NIGGA SHOULDN'T HAVE 2 ARGUE EVERYDAY...3 TIMES OUT THE WEEK IS GOOD ENOUGH 4 ME..LOL...STOP SNITCHIN..IT'S A MOVEMENT..LICC THE RAPPER....IT'S A MOVEMENT...GORILLA GANG.....IS DEFINITELY A MOVEMENT...100

 

[aMarE78]

tay when u drop ya new solo i need some tight WCM shit to bump!

 

[BIGCHILL]

i'm coming from the point of view if the person don't step up and you give the statement it ain't mine and wasn't under my seat. that person could then be accused of snitching. the point is you can't accept hearsay on who's snitching a janky person or a person with a axe to grind can twist a situation and make damn near anyone look like they telling.

a real muthafucka still wont say a word and handle you when he gets out.you know what did and he know what you did.if its your strap and you dont own up it and he gotta do time for a strap that he didnt know was in his car,you betta believe if hes a real one and down for his shit hes going to pray to god he never run into you again.if he knew the strap was in the car then nobody say a word or the down for his potnas homebody step up and take the case and get a few months jail time so the other homie dont get 8 years because of past felonys.

 

[BIGCHILL]

even if your not in the hood you do not snitch its a code of every day living.

i heard that but most people that dont live by hood standards and will tell the police if a muthafucka dropped a bubble gum wrapper on the ground...LOOK OFFICER ROSS,HES LOITERING,GET HIM!!! THEN MUTHAFUCKIN NOSY ASS BYSTANDERS WOULD START CLAPPING WHEN THE COP STOPS HIM AND GIVE HIM A GOTDAMN CITATION.:angry:

 

[559west]

they sayin husalah fence 2 hav a mac dre impact wen he com home

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

even if your not in the hood you do not snitch its a code of every day living.

If your not in the streets, the "snitch" code doesnt apply as deeply as it would if you were runnin dope or whatever. If soime white collar white man gets caught for embelzment and tells on a whoe bunch of other white collar white men, that white man is not going to get stabbed in ths subrubs by some retalitorty co-worker...it just does NOT work like that. Was he wrong? Of course...but the same rules dont apply when we are talking about non-street cats.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

they sayin husalah fence 2 hav a mac dre impact wen he com home

That made no sense.

 

[Tony]

NOW,LET ME ASK THIS:
IF A PERSON GETS SHOT BUT DOESN'T DIE & THEN CO-OPERATES WITH THE POLICE IN HAVING THE SHOOTER PROSECUTED...DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???

Yeah I would consider that snitching. My uncle is in the pen right now with the 25 for that happening to him. Paying restitution off top... whatever he gets sent to him they take a cut off that.

IF YOU AND YOUR HOMIE GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS & THE POLICE PUT IT ON HIM BECUZ HE HAS THE WORSE JAIL RECORD & THEN THEY OFFER YOU IMMUNITY & YOU TAKE THE STAND & DON'T TELL ON YOUR PARTNER BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION..DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SNITCHING???

That would depending what kind of info dude is givin'... He should just admit his own involvement and leave it at that. Just admit what he's guilty for and let the police find out all that other information for themselves. So yeah I would say that he would be snitching if he gave up some info because that could lead the police to other leads (if that makes sense).

And Young Lou, I agree with you on what you said about Cam'ron. Cam'ron is a square mf in my opinion. People need to learn the definition of "snitching". Snitching to me is telling on somebody to get yourself out of trouble, to get lesser time, or telling on someone who retaliated and you started the funk. Call me a snitch if you want to, but if I am living next door to some child molestor or child killer I am calling the police on that bastard and I'll get him in some kind of choke hold until they arrive. Crimes against children don't count in my opinion. Just think if you didn't tell on that bastard, he's going to continue to molest, hurt, or kill more children. I wouldn't let that mf get away because that could be your kid that was kidnapped or raped and killed. Cam is a stupid mf for that comment.

 

[SocialResponsibility]

So did Tay say if he thought Hus had done something wrong or not? Could you elaborate?

I couldnt understand, and I just got a new bag of popcorn.

 

[pharoah]

a real muthafucka still wont say a word and handle you when he gets out.you know what did and he know what you did.if its your strap and you dont own up it and he gotta do time for a strap that he didnt know was in his car,you betta believe if hes a real one and down for his shit hes going to pray to god he never run into you again.if he knew the strap was in the car then nobody say a word or the down for his potnas homebody step up and take the case and get a few months jail time so the other homie dont get 8 years because of past felonys.

i hear you. it's personal for me happened to my uncle (very non street dude) gave a ride to a street dude he knew from school. my uncle's exact statement was, when asked repeatedly who's was it was 'it aint mine' other dude wouldn't speak up. police said 'so you saying it's his?' uncle said 'must be, it aint mine' half the hood and many of my family members felt he snitched. others felt since dude left him hanging then whatever was whatever. my pops was like dude pulled a rat move in the first place by letting the next man take the blame. i was in high school and had to let a couple cats feel the boxing game over that yo' uncle be telling on nigga's shit. i never felt he was a rat but i wished he would have kept his mouth shut and let the chips fall where they may

 

[BIGCHILL]

that same shit happened to me in 2001 i think it was,we all chillin in the studio doing music and drinkin. next thing i know im going to jail for some crack that wasnt mine!lucky i got off probation ONE DAY BEFORE THE POLICE RAN IN THE BUILDING or i was looking at 8 years with 80%.thats what i was facing till they found out the police did a illegal search and had to drop the case.i started watching who i was around real serious after that.