Mike Bell---starting back for broncos. Tatum Bell 2nd string

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Id be pissed if drafted bell as my 2nd back for my team. i jsut picked up mike bell. dont know much about this cat other then he's running behind that broncos oline = 1,000 yd season if he gets the carries.
 
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AC Transit said:
i think shanahan is playing mind games trying to get Tatum and others to play harder.

That damn rat is always being an asshole
This is no mind tricks, I have been to a few training camp days...Mike is the reasl deal. He has been far and away the best back in camp.

We will see tonight when they play the lions
 

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thascary1 remember that discussion we had about Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler?

thascary1 said:
You are officially a DIPSHIT!


It takes 2+ years for a qb to learn our offense, why do you think that first year in Denver Plummer still wasn't what he was last year?

Shanny is NOT ON HIS ASS, Shanny has already stated NUMEROUS times Plummer is the man this year and unless there is an injury nothing changes

Cutler will be the man.....maybe sometime NEXT year...but more than likely not until 2008 season...WHEN PLUMMER WILL BE GONE WITH NO CONTRACT........DIPSHIT

Cutler won't sit idle

By Mark Kiszla
Denver Post Staff Columnist
DenverPost.com

Mike Shanahan wants to coach the Broncos for another decade.

Jay Cutler, a kid who can really throw that rock, is 23 years old.

You do the math.

The last quarterback Shanahan will ever need pulls on a Denver uniform tonight and fires the most anticipated pass by a rookie Broncos quarterback since 1983.

Let the saga of Shanny and Jay C begin.

Allow me to be the first to say: Although John Elway led victory parades through Denver, it's Cutler who will punch Shanahan's ticket to the Hall of Fame.

The sooner Jay C becomes the No. 1 quarterback in this town, the sooner Shanny wins his next Super Bowl.

Don't mess it up, kid.

"Going to be some butterflies," said Cutler, predicting his gut reaction to an exhibition game in Detroit.

When the Broncos traded up to grab Cutler with the 11th pick of the NFL draft, conventional wisdom shouted Jay C would stand on the sideline and cheer as a rookie, incapable of contributing more to team success than Miles the mascot.

Conventional wisdom is bunk.

Anybody who has watched 10 minutes of training camp can clearly see Cutler owns the best arm on the team.

Bradlee Van Pelt would be advised to start picking the brain of John Lynch for tips on how a frustrated QB can re-invent himself as a star safety.

And Jake Plummer has years of good football left in him. For another team.

OK. Maybe I don't have enough patience to wait on a microwave burrito, let alone the often-fitful development of a pro quarterback.

Asked early in training camp to give a progress report on his rookie phenom, Shanahan chuckled and said: "He's a Hall of Fame player."

Jay C, however, has serious skills. The lone question regarding Cutler's ascension to starting quarterback: How soon is when?

During a dozen of the past 20 NFL seasons, Denver has required its backup quarterback to start at least one game. So, ready or not, pure necessity figures to give Cutler a 60 percent chance of playing meaningful downs as a rookie.

And take this as a 100 percent guarantee: Should the Broncos struggle through what appears to be eight rugged games at the front end of the team's schedule, the loudest noise you will hear all year at Invesco Field will be calls for Shanahan to give Cutler the football and let the kid rock.

So where does that leave Plummer, looking as confident and relaxed as any man can while standing in the shadow of the next big thing?

Forget the number of touchdowns and interceptions Plummer throws. The only statistic that matters, according to Denver veteran Rod Smith, is whether Plummer and his teammates can win a championship together.

While the Broncos won't dramatically alter what made them a 13-3 team last season, here's guessing Shanahan will relax the constraints on Plummer and discover if, at age 31, the veteran quarterback is mature enough to be something more dangerous than No-Mistake Jake. Now is the time to push Plummer, when the Broncos have a viable alternative at quarterback.

Cutler is far from a finished product. Regardless of whether he turns the Lions into pussycats during his preseason debut or awkwardly lines up for a snap behind the wrong rump, Shanahan realizes: "You know what happens with a quarterback. It's a learning curve."

But there are too many big plays in the arm of Jay C to keep him on the bench for two years.

Denver exhibits the same defensive and ball-control strengths that allowed Ben Roethlisberger to win games as a rookie, an experience that made it possible for the Steelers to win the Super Bowl in the 32nd game of Roethlisberger's pro career.

Although there will be loud debate among Broncomaniacs, there is no quarterback controversy here. It's over.

Wish Plummer well. There are at least 15 NFL teams that would be lucky to employ him. Winning big this year would only increase his trade value for the Broncos down the road.

But the best thing to happen to sports in Denver since Carmelo Anthony is the arrival of Cutler.

Get behind him. Or get out of the way.
 
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Tony said:
thascary1 remember that discussion we had about Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler?




Cutler won't sit idle

By Mark Kiszla
Denver Post Staff Columnist
DenverPost.com

Mike Shanahan wants to coach the Broncos for another decade.

Jay Cutler, a kid who can really throw that rock, is 23 years old.

You do the math.

The last quarterback Shanahan will ever need pulls on a Denver uniform tonight and fires the most anticipated pass by a rookie Broncos quarterback since 1983.

Let the saga of Shanny and Jay C begin.

Allow me to be the first to say: Although John Elway led victory parades through Denver, it's Cutler who will punch Shanahan's ticket to the Hall of Fame.

The sooner Jay C becomes the No. 1 quarterback in this town, the sooner Shanny wins his next Super Bowl.

Don't mess it up, kid.

"Going to be some butterflies," said Cutler, predicting his gut reaction to an exhibition game in Detroit.

When the Broncos traded up to grab Cutler with the 11th pick of the NFL draft, conventional wisdom shouted Jay C would stand on the sideline and cheer as a rookie, incapable of contributing more to team success than Miles the mascot.

Conventional wisdom is bunk.

Anybody who has watched 10 minutes of training camp can clearly see Cutler owns the best arm on the team.

Bradlee Van Pelt would be advised to start picking the brain of John Lynch for tips on how a frustrated QB can re-invent himself as a star safety.

And Jake Plummer has years of good football left in him. For another team.

OK. Maybe I don't have enough patience to wait on a microwave burrito, let alone the often-fitful development of a pro quarterback.

Asked early in training camp to give a progress report on his rookie phenom, Shanahan chuckled and said: "He's a Hall of Fame player."

Jay C, however, has serious skills. The lone question regarding Cutler's ascension to starting quarterback: How soon is when?

During a dozen of the past 20 NFL seasons, Denver has required its backup quarterback to start at least one game. So, ready or not, pure necessity figures to give Cutler a 60 percent chance of playing meaningful downs as a rookie.

And take this as a 100 percent guarantee: Should the Broncos struggle through what appears to be eight rugged games at the front end of the team's schedule, the loudest noise you will hear all year at Invesco Field will be calls for Shanahan to give Cutler the football and let the kid rock.

So where does that leave Plummer, looking as confident and relaxed as any man can while standing in the shadow of the next big thing?

Forget the number of touchdowns and interceptions Plummer throws. The only statistic that matters, according to Denver veteran Rod Smith, is whether Plummer and his teammates can win a championship together.

While the Broncos won't dramatically alter what made them a 13-3 team last season, here's guessing Shanahan will relax the constraints on Plummer and discover if, at age 31, the veteran quarterback is mature enough to be something more dangerous than No-Mistake Jake. Now is the time to push Plummer, when the Broncos have a viable alternative at quarterback.

Cutler is far from a finished product. Regardless of whether he turns the Lions into pussycats during his preseason debut or awkwardly lines up for a snap behind the wrong rump, Shanahan realizes: "You know what happens with a quarterback. It's a learning curve."

But there are too many big plays in the arm of Jay C to keep him on the bench for two years.

Denver exhibits the same defensive and ball-control strengths that allowed Ben Roethlisberger to win games as a rookie, an experience that made it possible for the Steelers to win the Super Bowl in the 32nd game of Roethlisberger's pro career.

Although there will be loud debate among Broncomaniacs, there is no quarterback controversy here. It's over.

Wish Plummer well. There are at least 15 NFL teams that would be lucky to employ him. Winning big this year would only increase his trade value for the Broncos down the road.

But the best thing to happen to sports in Denver since Carmelo Anthony is the arrival of Cutler.

Get behind him. Or get out of the way.

Do you know who Kiszla is???

Thank You



He is the worst sports writer in Denver right now. He writes shit like this all the time for all Denver teams. This is a typical article for him. If we didnt draft Cutler, he would be singing for Bradlee Van Pelt who is shit to be in there.....or oh we be calling for Mike Bell to be 3rd why put him in there.

Seriously he is not good.





So uhh good find I guess.....but you have no clue who he is and if you did you would never have out that up here.



btw did you read this part of article


OK. Maybe I don't have enough patience to wait on a microwave burrito, let alone the often-fitful development of a pro quarterback.



he throws his real sefl out there
 
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ColdBlooded said:
is that Lions Broncos game nationally televised?

or

anyone know of any of the Lions pre-season games that are nationally televised?

It wont be live nationally, but nfl newtwork will be showing replay starting at midnight.
 

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It's an opinion of a sportwriter... true that... but he can also read between the lines too... Think about this... Javon Walker put up big numbers before getting hurt right? Who was throwing him the ball? Favre, who probably has the strongest arm in the NFL right now. Favre used to fire bullet passes to Walker and Walker used to go in the air and snatch the ball. Walker goes down with the ACL injury and Favre throws 29 INT's I think. Cutler drew many comparisons to Favre in regards to arm strength and he is also mobile. So what does Shanahan do? Trade up to get Cutler. The fans, media, teammates, etc... will start pressuring Shanahan to put Cutler in if Plummer begans to struggle. Believe me, Shanahan didn't trade up and draft Cutler for him to ride the bench for two years. Cutler will be playing sooner than you think!
 
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Tony said:
It's an opinion of a sportwriter... true that... but he can also read between the lines too... Think about this... Javon Walker put up big numbers before getting hurt right? Who was throwing him the ball? Favre, who probably has the strongest arm in the NFL right now. Favre used to fire bullet passes to Walker and Walker used to go in the air and snatch the ball. Walker goes down with the ACL injury and Favre throws 29 INT's I think. Cutler drew many comparisons to Favre in regards to arm strength and he is also mobile. So what does Shanahan do? Trade up to get Cutler. The fans, media, teammates, etc... will start pressuring Shanahan to put Cutler in if Plummer begans to struggle. Believe me, Shanahan didn't trade up and draft Cutler for him to ride the bench for two years. Cutler will be playing sooner than you think!
Yawn...yes he did trade up to ride bench for a year or 2.....LOOK AT LEAF, Joey Harrington, Ramsey,Hell even all the qb's I put in the POTENTIAL post, shuler, etc...


Shanny is a smart coach and knows you can't force them into the league to soon....but again an expert as yoursefl or Kiszla who has never stepped a foot in the league know more!


The only way Cutler starts a game this year is injury, we have division or playoff spot wrapped up, or we tank and end up 5-8 he plays those last few game (maybe), but the first 2 scenarios are the only way Cutler starts a game this year.





I do agree with you the fans and media may pressure him but the teammates wont.

But comsider the source....these are fans that wanted him to put in Bradlee Van Pelt last year, and again yes he is media....but he is one of the worst in Denver.....you don't see many other articles like that in Denver do you??? because he is awful!
 

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thascary1 said:
The only way Cutler starts a game this year is injury, we have division or playoff spot wrapped up, or we tank and end up 5-8 he plays those last few game (maybe), but the first 2 scenarios are the only way Cutler starts a game this year.
Shanahan has to prove he can win a championship without John Elway. He's under pressure... maybe not from ownership but maybe he's putting the pressure on himself. It doesn't take an expert to see that Cutler will be playing soon. He was probably the best QB taken in the draft. Scouts say he's pretty much more prepared to play in the NFL more than Vince Young and Leinhart is. They say Cutler is ready. So yawn and go back to sleep... when you wake up don't be surprised to see Cutler taking snaps from under center. Let Jake have two or three bad games in a row and watch him get yanked for Cutler.
 
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Shanahan has to prove he can win a championship without John Elway. He's under pressure... maybe not from ownership but maybe he's putting the pressure on himself. It doesn't take an expert to see that Cutler will be playing soon. He was probably the best QB taken in the draft. Scouts say he's pretty much more prepared to play in the NFL more than Vince Young and Leinhart is. They say Cutler is ready. So yawn and go back to sleep... when you wake up don't be surprised to see Cutler taking snaps from under center. Let Jake have two or three bad games in a row and watch him get yanked for Cutler.

again, yawn!!!

Rookie QB, in an established system that takes time to learn, with a QB that is been one of the better qb's the past 2 years....YAWN.



It's useless, I think I may be done repsonding until you actual learn the game.
 
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ColdBlooded said:
is that Lions Broncos game nationally televised?

or

anyone know of any of the Lions pre-season games that are nationally televised?
Pretty sure that the NFL network shows all of the pre-season games...you just have to find out what time they're on.
 
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Plummer one of the better QB's the past 2 years? LOL....
Yeah yawn...

wow clueless! I swear dude do you even watch football outside of Brooks?

in 2003 & 2005 Plummer was one of the highest rated qb's in the league and towards the top in all categories.
 

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Yes I watch football outside of Brooks. Do you watch football outside of Denver?

Plummer probably was one if the highest rated qb's during the time you mentiond. Thanks to mike Shanahan's west coast system. But was he before he became a Bronco? Hell no! He was garbage. He threw more INT's than TD's in 4 different seasons with Arizona. And he never threw more than 20 TD's passes in any season in Arizona. So stop acting like he's so deep. He's a product of the system.
 
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Tony said:
Yes I watch football outside of Brooks. Do you watch football outside of Denver?

Plummer probably was one if the highest rated qb's during the time you mentiond. Thanks to mike Shanahan's west coast system. But was he before he became a Bronco? Hell no! He was garbage. He threw more INT's than TD's in 4 different seasons with Arizona. And he never threw more than 20 TD's passes in any season in Arizona. So stop acting like he's so deep. He's a product of the system.
you're right system only, I mean what the hell was wrong with griese, kanell, Frerote, van pelt they were all the same calibur as plummer being that they all suck, but it is system only!


I am seriously done...it's pointless talking football with you.