Michael Jackson- Guilty?

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Is Michael Jackson GUILTY or INNOCENT??


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KALYN

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This is the latest article.... I'm curious as to what everyone's thoughts are... is he guilty? ... or is he the victim..?



Michael Jackson Awaits Jury Deliberations
By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer
5 minutes ago



SANTA MARIA, Calif. - A subdued Michael Jackson sat silently in court on the eve of closing arguments in his child-molestation trial, well aware that within a matter of days his future will be placed in the hands of a jury.

"It's a very difficult situation to sit in there and know your life is in the balance," Jackson spokeswoman Raymone K. Bain said Wednesday after the entertainer moved quickly and quietly past reporters on his way out of the courthouse.

Closing arguments in his case were to begin Thursday with jurors expected to get the case sometime Friday.

"He has strong faith in God and in the judicial system," Bain said of Jackson. "He knows his fate is in the hands of 12 jurors."

Jackson sat stone still in court for nearly two hours Wednesday as those jurors were repeatedly reminded of the child molestation charges against him as they were given instructions for their deliberations.

The 46-year-old singer is charged with molesting a 13-year-old cancer survivor in February or March 2003. He is accused of plying him with wine and conspiring to hold his family captive to get them to rebut damaging aspects of the documentary "Living With Michael Jackson," in which Jackson appeared holding hands with the boy as he talked of allowing children into his bed for what he said were innocent sleepovers.

Bain said Jackson's emotions have varied during his 14-week trial.

"He has had anger. He's been happy about some of the information that has come out in court," she said.

Earlier Wednesday, Jackson looked straight ahead as Superior Court Judge Rodney S. Melville, sitting in the witness box to be closer to the jury, read a long list of instructions hammered out during more than a day of discussions with prosecuting and defense attorneys.

Following up on an earlier decision regarding the alcohol allegations, the judge told the jurors they may consider a "lesser charge" of "furnishing alcohol to a minor," a misdemeanor. The instruction means the jury would not have to relate the alcohol to the purpose of molestation.

Melville also told the jury how to use prosecution testimony that alleged Jackson has a history of improper behavior with boys.

The judge said that if jurors determine Jackson has such a history, "you may but are not required to infer that the defendant had a predisposition" to commit the crimes alleged in the current case. But he told the jurors "that is not sufficient in itself to prove he committed the crimes charged."

The judge paused at one point to determine if the jurors were paying attention.

"You know I read to my wife at night so she'll go to sleep. Am I having that effect here?" he sa
 

KALYN

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I think he's guilty as sin- toooo many accusations over the years, too many similarities.... but I dont think he'll do any time, if he were to be found guilty and sentenced- I'm thinkin' he'd off himself..
 
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i think he's innocent. i think he's got a twisted mentality, maybe he's livin his childhood thru other little kids, but a molester, i don't think so. even if he WANTED to molest those kids, i don't think he would have enough guts to do it considering his status and all that he has to lose. i think folx jus usin his twisted mind and the twisted situations he puts himself into to try to gain fortunes. fold.
 

Sydal

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I think he's innocent...he's fucked up, but since when does crazy mean guilty? This particular family has attempted to extort many celebrities, not just Michael Jackson. Remember how the last family took a settlement after the LAST accusation? Well, if somebody grabbed your child and fucked them up by fondling them sexually, would you settle for a few mill or would you want the motherfucker thrown in prison so people could fondle him?

I'm sorry, but a NORMAL parent whose child was just molested would MOST LIKELY say..."Fuck your money"...I know I would.
 
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he could be totally innocent....

but for being such a moron and continuing to sleep with little boys and whatnot AFTER all the original allegations.....he needs to be convicted

bottom line.... if he woulda stopped sleeping with em after shit popped off before... he wouldnt be in this mess now... there would be no way for a kid to even fabricate a story
 

Nuttkase

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mizzouplaya said:
he could be totally innocent....

but for being such a moron and continuing to sleep with little boys and whatnot AFTER all the original allegations.....he needs to be convicted

bottom line.... if he woulda stopped sleeping with em after shit popped off before... he wouldnt be in this mess now... there would be no way for a kid to even fabricate a story
That's what I have been saying.

But I don't know.....I tend to lean a little towards that he did it. But I don't think their is enough evidence to prove his guilt.

Just like Scott Peterson...I know that fucker did it and deserves to rot in jail...but I watched like 75% of that trial and with the evidence they had I don't think he should have been found guilty.

Nuttkace
 
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Guilty, there's no reason for these kids to be able to describe what his dick looks like. The porn, the alcohol, the witnesses, the fact that he keeps sleeping with little kids... He's guilty.
 

Sydal

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^^^^
How hard is it to describe a dick? What did the kid say? "It has a shaft, a Darth Vader helmet at the tip, it's slightly curved, and it's got balls on the bottom"?? Being American born, he's more than likely circumsized...I mean shit...tough description.

They made a valid argument on the radio just yesterday morning for that argument..."HOW HARD IS IT TO DESCRIBE WHAT A DICK LOOKS LIKE"?

Furthermore, how did this kid know that "Jesus Juice" was wine?? Why would a 13 year old kid know what wine tastes like? Maybe cause his mom told him to say that?''

The whole family stayed @ the house, correct? Is it possible that, this money hungry bitch of a mom, spied on MJ when he was changing, in the shower, or getting out of the shower? Then told her son what the dick looked like? I mean, c'mon...too many questions about this whole shit for me to even consider him guilty...and I THOUGHT HE DID IT until I started hearing the fucking story.
 

Dana Dane

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I also think he is innocent of what he has been accused of. Do I think he is a sick twisted individual, YES! Do I think he has the mentality of a child and doesn't think that some of the things he does is wrong? YES! But do I think he is a perverted baby toucher? Nah, not Mike. I think he realizes that he has too much to lose, he has just opened himself up as a target to people who know he has money and is willing to pay to make things go away.
 
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Da6Footah said:
I also think he is innocent of what he has been accused of. Do I think he is a sick twisted individual, YES! Do I think he has the mentality of a child and doesn't think that some of the things he does is wrong? YES! But do I think he is a perverted baby toucher? Nah, not Mike. I think he realizes that he has too much to lose, he has just opened himself up as a target to people who know he has money and is willing to pay to make things go away.
Agree 100%
 

KALYN

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SANTA MARIA, Calif. -
Michael Jackson committed "exploitation and sexual abuse," and his only defense has been to attack the credibility of his accuser's mother, a prosecutor said Thursday as closing arguments began.
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"This case is about the exploitation and sexual abuse of a 13-year-old cancer survivor by an international celebrity," Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen said.

He said the defense case was "entirely limited" to attacks on the credibility of the boy's mother, and the defense lawyers had failed to deliver on promises made during opening statements.

Zonen told jurors at the outset that his argument would take a few hours. Defense attorneys were then expected to begin their closing. The jury has been told it will get the case on Friday.

Zonen read jurors a line from Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.'s opening statement in which the lawyer said, "I think an opening statement is a contract."

He said Mesereau had invited jurors to judge him on the basis of whether he kept the promises when the testimony was presented, and he listed a series of alleged inconsistencies.

Zonen said Mesereau claimed that the mother was involved in shakedowns of several celebrities including comedians George Lopez and Jay Leno. But he said Lopez had criticized the boy's father — not the mother, in his testimony and Leno testified that the boy may have called him but he never remembered being asked for money.

Zonen also said Mesereau had told jurors he would show that the mother asked Mike Tyson, Adam Sandler and
Jim Carrey for money.

"Did you see any of them come in here?" Zonen said. "There's no evidence she received anything from the three of them."

The prosecutor acknowledged that the mother fraudulently underreported income on an application for welfare. He said she did it when she had separated from her husband and had three children to care for.

"That was a mistake. It was fraud. She shouldn't have done it," Zonen said. "That was the only thing she's done in her life that she clearly shouldn't have done."

Jackson's arrival at court a short time earlier was met by a contingent of fans that has been growing as the case nears its end. Jackson, in a dark coat and plaid vest, acknowledged them with a wave.

The 46-year-old singer is charged with molesting a 13-year-old cancer survivor in February or March 2003. He is accused of plying him with wine and conspiring to hold his family captive to get them to rebut damaging aspects of the documentary "Living With Michael Jackson," in which Jackson appeared holding hands with the boy as he talked of allowing children into his bed for what he said were innocent sleepovers.

"It's a very difficult situation to sit in there and know your life is in the balance," Jackson spokeswoman Raymone K. Bain said afterward.

The trial began with jury selection Jan. 31. Opening statements began Feb. 28.
 

KALYN

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Da6Footah said:
I also think he is innocent of what he has been accused of. Do I think he is a sick twisted individual, YES! Do I think he has the mentality of a child and doesn't think that some of the things he does is wrong? YES! But do I think he is a perverted baby toucher? Nah, not Mike. I think he realizes that he has too much to lose, he has just opened himself up as a target to people who know he has money and is willing to pay to make things go away.



Hmmmm.... interesting Dana...
 
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Michael is an easy target because he is so different. Shame on this family for trying to get him. I bet no matter what the verdict that the family files a civil suit. They just want money!
 

Stealth

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Let the poor bastard go. If parents don't want their kids getting molested, they shouldn't let their kids sleep over at the previously accused's house.

Either way, nobody in Europe seems to give a damn that he did anything. They all still love him there. So if he is guilty, I say we exile him. That way, everyone in Europe is happy, and the American justice system can say they did something.
 

Sydal

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I like how they said the boy was molested in either February OR March of 2003. C'mon, most people who are molested know when, where, and how it happened, and what it involved. Why didn't they press charges 2 years ago? Does Michael Jackson really have the power to "hold a family captive"????? What is this, a fuckin movie? The sequel to Moonwalker or what? LMAO!! I smell more bullshit than a farmer here...
 
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Sydal said:
^^^^
How hard is it to describe a dick? What did the kid say? "It has a shaft, a Darth Vader helmet at the tip, it's slightly curved, and it's got balls on the bottom"?? Being American born, he's more than likely circumsized...I mean shit...tough description.

They made a valid argument on the radio just yesterday morning for that argument..."HOW HARD IS IT TO DESCRIBE WHAT A DICK LOOKS LIKE"?

Furthermore, how did this kid know that "Jesus Juice" was wine?? Why would a 13 year old kid know what wine tastes like? Maybe cause his mom told him to say that?''

The whole family stayed @ the house, correct? Is it possible that, this money hungry bitch of a mom, spied on MJ when he was changing, in the shower, or getting out of the shower? Then told her son what the dick looked like? I mean, c'mon...too many questions about this whole shit for me to even consider him guilty...and I THOUGHT HE DID IT until I started hearing the fucking story.
No it's not hard to describe a NORMAL dick but with MJ's skin problems/treatments/chemical peels/whatever they've said that it is NOT normal. If a kid can describe splotches and marks and what it looks like on the top and on the bottom, where every mark is, and where marks are when it's hard and when it's not, there's definitely something going on.