Mess literally hasnt been a decent rapper since the 90's, never understood how people could listen to his ABC rapping ass in the 2000's. Hes been a joke for quite some time and Quinn basically destroyed him for the blood thing and JT/Short finished the job yet people were on his nuts way to hard not to long ago on this site. Dont ever even put him in the same sentence with 40.
Also Philthy has never been anything really, at least Mess was popular at one point. Philthy has always been Stalins left nut basically living off Stalins local fame/success whatever you want to call it. He never could rap for shit and was always way to arrogant but im guessing he is like that cuz he feels like a made dude cuz of being from a dangerous hood.