McCain addresses Bay of Pigs veterans and promises to root out 21st century commies.

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McCain Warns Against Spread of Socialism

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MIAMI (AP) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain warned on Wednesday against the spread of socialism in Latin America and pledged to give the region renewed U.S. attention if elected.

Appearing in Little Havana, McCain carefully avoided criticism of President Bush but said the Iraq war ``has diverted attention from our hemisphere and we have paid a penalty for that'' in the form of a growing leftism embodied by leaders Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and Evo Morales in Bolivia.

In a speech to veterans of the ill-fated, CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in 1961, McCain said his first trip if elected to the White House in 2008 would be to Mexico, Canada and Latin America ``to reaffirm my commitment to our hemisphere and the importance of relations within our hemisphere.''

The Arizona senator said that ``everyone should understand the connections'' between Chavez, Morales and communist Cuban President Fidel Castro.

``They inspire each other. They assist each other. They get ideas from each other,'' McCain said. ``It's very disturbing.''

Cuban-Americans are a key voting bloc in electoral-rich Florida and typically cast their ballots for Republicans.

As president, McCain said he would work on political, diplomatic and economic fronts to counter the rise of socialism, including efforts to spread free trade. Yet the United States must also stress the advantages of capitalism and democracy to win ``a war of ideas'' in the region, he said.

McCain had a clearly receptive audience among the aging Bay of Pigs veterans, who consider him a hero for the years he spent as a prisoner of war in what was then communist North Vietnam. The group's president, former CIA agent Felix Rodriguez, noted McCain's years in captivity in his introduction and said: ``It's a distinct honor to have you.''

McCain was presented with a copy of the book ``Against All Hope'' by former Cuban political prisoner Armando Valladares, who was frequently tortured during his 22 years in a Cuban prison. McCain said that while he was in Hanoi, a Cuban agent came to show his Vietnamese captors ``some new interrogation techniques'' and he later discovered that the same agent had also tortured Valladares.

``Anything that I and my friends might have experienced is nothing - nothing - compared with what the men in this room went through,'' McCain said.

McCain said all the right things about Cuba for this audience, where a half-dozen men talked politics in Spanish and smoked morning cigars before the senator arrived. McCain told them he wouldn't support lifting the U.S. economic embargo against Cuba until there were free elections, human rights and release of all political prisoners.

 
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Freemarket loving politicians of all parties should be kicking themselves that McCain beat them to the punch. Bush has dropped the ball on the Western Hemisphere, though the promiss of anyone else actually doing something is slim at best, people should be expecting promisses on the issue.

Presidents James Monroe, Theodore Roosevelt,John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan are all rolling in their graves at the way their hard work has been undone.
 

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good. communism is a disease. i will believe so until a successful communist country somehow exists somewhere in this world. there is no real communist country in this world that lives up to the hype of why communism is so great. never has been and NEVER WILL BE.
 
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phil said:
communism is a disease.
No it's simply an economic system.

i will believe so until a successful communist country somehow exists somewhere in this world. there is no real communist country in this world that lives up to the hype of why communism is so great. never has been and NEVER WILL BE.
Actually many societies have been pure communist societies. They tended to be small societies. And they tended to have different social and political goals than capitalist or socialist societies did. But they certainly existed.

Also, just because something might not have ever existed before does not follow that it will never exist in the future. And nobody has ever shown that pure communism isn't feasible.
 
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its just a bunch of hot air as usual. these politicians are professional liars far as om concerned. they say whay the people want to hear. in other words the politicians are usin propaganda to get elected
 

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No it's simply an economic system.



Actually many societies have been pure communist societies. They tended to be small societies. And they tended to have different social and political goals than capitalist or socialist societies did. But they certainly existed.

Also, just because something might not have ever existed before does not follow that it will never exist in the future. And nobody has ever shown that pure communism isn't feasible.
i truly see the good side to communism but everytime it has been implemented the human element ruins it. im sure communism has worked before on minute scales but in our world i dont think its possible when you insert human nature into the equation. i do applaud the ultimate goal of communism though. just dont believe it can be accomplished on a world wide or even continental basis without good old greedy, selfish humans entering the foray.
 
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i truly see the good side to communism but everytime it has been implemented the human element ruins it. im sure communism has worked before on minute scales but in our world i dont think its possible when you insert human nature into the equation. i do applaud the ultimate goal of communism though. just dont believe it can be accomplished on a world wide or even continental basis without good old greedy, selfish humans entering the foray.

exactly, this is what checks and balances, to oversee the government was attempted to and implemented to solve, the greedy, sociopath, politicians, in the American constitution. Now, if you have read a news paper in the past 5 years you could see how far checks and balances have gotten the American people, nowhere. It is only inevitable that communism will soon take over the American econmic system. Sorry to break the news to you.
 

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exactly, this is what checks and balances, to oversee the government was attempted to and implemented to solve, the greedy, sociopath, politicians, in the American constitution. Now, if you have read a news paper in the past 5 years you could see how far checks and balances have gotten the American people, nowhere. It is only inevitable that communism will soon take over the American econmic system. Sorry to break the news to you.
i'll take a corrupt capitalist govt over a corrupt communist govt anyday
 
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i'll take a corrupt capitalist govt over a corrupt communist govt anyday
HAHA, you'll regret saying that one day LMAO!!!! I could be wrong, but I think the reason communism hasn't prevailed the way many communists imagine a communist society is because not all people will have a steady mind set. Too many greedy people and on top of that, some won't be willing to comply. If there was ever a country that was full of benevolence, humility, and love for equality then it would succeed.

Phil, you should feel super patriotic.
 
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its just a bunch of hot air as usual. these politicians are professional liars far as om concerned. they say whay the people want to hear. in other words the politicians are usin propaganda to get elected
This is very true! But there is ONE man running for President who is not all hot air. And that is Congressman Ron Paul.

His voting record shows he is for the freedom liberty and he's working for the people and not big government. Vote for Ron Paul. He is the only man for the job.
 

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HAHA, you'll regret saying that one day LMAO!!!! I could be wrong, but I think the reason communism hasn't prevailed the way many communists imagine a communist society is because not all people will have a steady mind set. Too many greedy people and on top of that, some won't be willing to comply. If there was ever a country that was full of benevolence, humility, and love for equality then it would succeed.

Phil, you should feel super patriotic.
ok, since you said so, SURE!

by the way you pretty much said the same thing i did. i totally agree with you. so you can feel patriotic with me.
 
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ok, since you said so, SURE!

by the way you pretty much said the same thing i did. i totally agree with you. so you can feel patriotic with me.
I didn't say the same thing as you did, like I said From my understanding, a true communist society would be full of humble, benevolent, and peaceful people.

So no, I didn't say what you said, because there is no such thing as a corrupt communist government. The USSR and China do not count BILLY.
 

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why because they are corrupt? just because we have a corrupt capitalist democracy doesnt mean it isnt a capitalist democracy.

and you did not ever say FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU SAID BASICALLY WHAT I SAID. PLEASE RE-READ YOUR POST THEN MINE AND TELL ME HOW THEYRE THAT MUCH DIFFERENT.