mainstream rappers aren't as rich as u think

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Apr 26, 2002
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sum shit u might find interesting if u wanna read all this:



Why Rappers Aren't Millionaires:
>By Wendy Day
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>Who is the incredible bonehead who said rappers are millionaires? Wrong,
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!! Because fans expect their favorite artists to
be richer than Bill Gates, this puts an incredible amount of pressure on the
artists to appear wealthy. And it's not just the fans; I can't tell you how
many times I've been out with rappers along with people who work in the
industry, who expect the artists to pick up the dinner check or buy bottles
of Moet. I've even seen people cop an attitude if the artist doesn't pay for
everything. This is small minded and ignorant because the artist is ALWAYS
the last to get paid.
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>Once an artist releases a record, the pressure is on to portray a
successful image to their friends, families, fans, and people around the
way. People expect the artists to be well dressed, drive an expensive car,
etc. Think about it. Don't you expect the artists "to look like artists?"
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>Sadly, when an artist gets signed to a label deal, especially a rap artist,
he or she receives somewhere between 10 and 15 points. What that means is
10% to 15% of the retail sales price, after the record label recoups the
money it puts out (the advance, the sample clearances, the producers,
usually half the cost of the video, any cash outlays for the artists, half
the radio promotions, etc.). The artist has to sell a huge amount of units
to make any money back. Here's an example of a relatively fair record deal
for a new rap artist with some clout in the industry and a terrific
negotiating attorney:
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>ROYALTY RATE: 12% "All in deal" We're going to assume that there are 3
artists in the group, and that they split everything equally. We're also
going to assume that they produce their own tracks themselves. Suggested
retail list price: $14.98 less 15% packaging deduction (usually 20%) $ 12.73
gets paid on 85% of records sold ("free goods/breakage") $ 10.82 So the
artists' 12% is equal to about $1.30 per CD sold.
>
>Let's assume that they are a hit and their record goes gold (although it is
rare that a first record blows up like this). Bear in mind that in the year
2000, only 45 rap records sold more than 500,000 units out of almost 1,000
releases. Of these 45 records, less than 10 were by new artists.
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>GOLD RECORD = 500,000 units sold x $ 1.30 = $650,000. Looks like a nice
chunk of loot, huh? Watch this. Now the label recoups what they've spent.
Half of the independent promotion, half of the video cost, some tour
support, all those limo rides, all those out of town trips for the artist
and their friends, the advance, etc. $650,000 -$50,000 half the indie
promotion -$ 75,000 half the video -$ 25,000 tour support, trips,
etc. -$200,000 recording costs-$ 70,000 advance -------- $230,000
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>Still sounds OK? Watch... Now, a third of the $650,000 stays "in reserve"
(accounting for returned items from retail stores) for a year or so,
depending on the length specified in the recording contract. So the monies
are actually subtracted from $429,000 (the other $221,000 is in reserves for
a year and a half the way accounting statements are figured). Now, there's
also the artists' manager, who is entitled to 20% of all of the
entertainment income, which would be 20% of $650,000, or $130,000 (although
many managers do not commission the recording costs). Remember, the artist
is the last to get paid, so even the manager gets paid before the artist.
>
>So the three artists actually receive $33,333 each for their gold album,
and in a year and a half when the reserves are liquidated, IF they've
recouped, they will each receive another $73,666. Again, IF they've
recouped. Guess who keeps track of all of this accounting? The label. Most
contracts are "cross-collateralized," which means if the artist does not
recoup everything on the first album, the money will be paid back out of the
second album. Also, if the money is not recouped on the second album,
repayment can come out of the "in reserve" funds from the first album, if
the funds have not already been liquidated. This is why almost all artists
go into their next album "in the red." From artists like DMX to Slick Rick,
they are always in a debt position with their record label even though the
label is making millions of dollars per release. For example, on the Gold
album example we're illustrating here, at a wholesale price of $11.41 per
CD, 500,000 units would bring the label a gross amount of $5,705,000.
>
>Even after the reserves are paid, each artist only actually made 21 cents
per unit based on this example. The label made substantially more. This
example doesn't include any additional production costs for an outside
producer to come in and do a re-mix, and you know how often that happens.
>
>So each artist in this group has received a total of about $107,000 from
record sales. After legal expenses and costs of new clothing to wear on
stage while touring, etc, each artist has probably made a total of $90,000
before paying taxes which probably took another 28% to 33%, plus accountant
fees.. Let's look at the time line now. Let's assume the artists had no jobs
when they started this. They spent 4 months putting their demo tape together
and getting the tracks just right. They spent another 8 months to a year
getting to know who all of the players are in the rap music industry and
shopping their demo tape. After signing to a label, it took another 8 months
to make an album and to get through all of the label's bureaucracy. When the
first single dropped, the group went into promotion mode and traveled all
over promoting the single at radio, retail, concerts, and publications. This
was another six months. The record label decided to push three singles from
the album so it was another year before they got back into the studio to
make album number two. This scenario has been a total of 36 months. Each
member of the group made $64,800 (after taxes) for a three year investment
of time, which averages out to $21,600 per year. In corporate America, that
works out to be about $10 per hour. Think about this next time you see your
favorite artist drive by in that new Escalade-- I do.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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but that fame allows them other money making opportunities that the average person doesn't have, which allows some to make a pretty penny...
 
Apr 26, 2002
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Vamps said:
What's even more suprising is all the "rappers" who JUST read that for the first time and were surprised..

Some of you might be in the wrong business..




Vamps
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word, it's to tha point where foos shouldn't even try to get signed to a label. they should jus do they own thang and shtart it from scratch (example: master p and jay- z). pay rent or own ur own home? fold.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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NAW I GOTTA DISAGREE WITH THAT ARTICLE,THAT WOULD OF BEEN TRUE 5 YEARS AGO BUT NOT NO MORE..RAPPERS HAVE GOTTEN SMARTER,,, OF COURSE THERE ARE EXEPTIONS TO EVERY RULE,BUT THE MASS MAJORITY OF MAINSTREEM RAPPERS ARE MAKING MILLIONS EVEN IF THERE SHIT DONT SELL...THERE IS SO MUCH COMPETITION NOW OUT THERE WITH LABELS,THAT IF YOUR A PROVEN RAPPER LIKE JUST SAY SNOOP DOGG OR OUTKASTS LABELS WILL GIVE SIGNING BONUS IN THE MILLIONS UP FRONT JUST FOR SIGNING WITH THEM...IF YOUR SHIT DONT SELL,ITS ON THEM..GOOD EXAMPLES ARE CASH MONEY WHO PRODUCE MANAGE THIER OWN SHIT AND ARE FILTHY RICH...JANET JACKSON GOT 15 MILLION AS A SIGNING BONUS LAST YEAR I THINK...WITHOUT SELLING A SINGLE COPY...JUST FOR SIGNING...MACK 10 ALSO GOT A SIGNING BONUS WITH CASH MONEY,I DONT THINK IT WAS IN THE MILLIONS BUT HE GOT SOMETHING,SO DID SNOOP DOGG WITH NO LIMIT
 
May 29, 2002
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yeah that article is hella misleading. the actual sales of the album only make up a small percentage of what the artist makes. appearances and touring and shit is where they get paid in the beginning. eventually you start making more than 15-20%.

thats why someone like jt the bigga figga who don't come close to selling gold or platinum can make just as much as a major artist selling gold or platinum.

Also, doesn't e-40 get a hella high percentage?
 
Apr 25, 2002
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www.idealsentertainment.com
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^^^^Real Talk right there....you ain't gotta pay back a signing bonus either...so that's a coo amount of cash in the bank, ALONE...then comes touring, appearances on other albums...there's a shitload of ways to make $$ now. Besides, that article is fuckin OLD!!

Do you think when they show these rappers on CRIBS, that they don't pay for that house or all those cars in the drive way?? Every executive isn't Suge Knight, where they give u cars and houses instead of money.
 
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I read that article before and all I gotta say is that if you are underground and ya got a game plan to get in, do it. Me personally, that's why I'm in college right now: To get a B.A. in Communications, get a job in the Public Relations Department at Alabama Power (thanks to a Masters Degree) and I'm gonna get in tha independent game on tha side...hopefully! Plus, IF NONE OF THAT works, I can fall back on a English minor.
 
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To you nemrods who think you know what the fuck your talking about this lady wasn't just throwing out numbers I think she knows what the fuck she's talking about based on the fact she works in the business. Now you dumbie's who know shit about the industry are gonna give your dumb as two cents. She's right on point with everything she's saying don't believe me ask an actual artist.




FUCK THE WORLD
 
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I think the major platinum artists are still making money. But we all know there are a shitload of decent gold selling artists that are signed to majors that come and go like the latest shoe design. These are the guys who are getting fucked. The guys who can't pack concerts and cant sell millions of albums, but still try to have that bling bling image of a platinum artist.