mac dre murder info???
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those articles are deep too
they found the car that supposidly Mac Minister and that other cat (forgot his name) in Vallejo all burned up. then the girl who knew something bout it was found dead
bunch of people died because of this shit.
the other guy who got caught said they killed Fat Tone to avenge Mac Dres death
shits crazy
anyways, i dont think we will ever know who killed Mac Dre, but like dude said up there. Might escape jail, but you wont escape hell
real shit
they found the car that supposidly Mac Minister and that other cat (forgot his name) in Vallejo all burned up. then the girl who knew something bout it was found dead
bunch of people died because of this shit.
the other guy who got caught said they killed Fat Tone to avenge Mac Dres death
shits crazy
anyways, i dont think we will ever know who killed Mac Dre, but like dude said up there. Might escape jail, but you wont escape hell
real shit
True. I read somewhere, Dre was signing autographs out there like the day before he died, and the line to see him was way out the door. They wanted to shut it down but Dre told them he would really appericate if they allowed him to sign more autographs for the kids.
It's all for the kids. Fuck the bustas that shot him and ran away.
It's all for the kids. Fuck the bustas that shot him and ran away.
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A Deadly Tale of Underground Rap Involving Mac Dre
A deadly tale of underground rap
Vallejo's Mac Dre was slain in a dispute over money -- rumors led to reprisal and 3 more killings, police say
Demian Bulwa, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 29, 2005
Vallejo rapper Andre "Mac Dre" Hicks wasn't on MTV, on magazine covers or in movies. But his clever, hardcore rhymes had an underground following, and when he was killed on a Kansas City freeway last November, hip-hop radio stations mourned him at length. Mac Dre was big enough for that.
Police investigators say Hicks, 34, was shot in a financial dispute, but the rumor mill said something sexier: that a West-Midwest rap war had flared and that a notorious Kansas City rapper dubbed "Fat Tone" had taken out Hicks. In the world of hip-hop, police say, bad blood often means good business.
Six months later, police say, a San Francisco rap promoter nicknamed "Mac Minister" and a friend avenged Hicks in Las Vegas by firing 33 assault-rifle rounds into two Kansas City men -- including Anthony "Fat Tone" Watkins.
The two San Francisco men were indicted on murder charges early this month. Two days later, a 21-year-old call girl who was in Las Vegas with them turned up dead in Fairfield, shot in the head.
The violent story, pieced together through interviews and court records, reflects the blurry line between rumor and reality in the world of underground rap.
Kansas City police Detective Everett Babcock, who cleared Watkins in Hicks' death, feared that rumors following the shooting might turn deadly.
"The tragedy of the whole thing is that, assuming (the woman killed in Fairfield) was killed as retribution for being a witness, that's three people dead over a financial matter over an amount of money that wouldn't pay for a weekend in Vegas," said Babcock, who would not elaborate on the alleged dispute except to say that Watkins was not a suspect in Hicks' death.
The saga began quietly, in the early morning hours of Nov. 1, 2004, as Hicks rode in a white van driven by a friend through Kansas City. He had been performing in the city, and he and other Bay Area rappers enjoyed second-home popularity there.
Hicks, who grew up in Vallejo's hardscrabble Country Club Crest neighborhood, first gained radio airplay as a teenager with a song titled, ironically, "2 Hard 4 the (expletive) Radio." He had long been the subject of rap world rumors. His mother, Wanda Salvatto, said she'd heard about her son's death at least three times before.
Despite serving a five-year prison sentence for conspiracy to commit bank robbery, Hicks was no thug, his mother said. His problems were behind him when he was killed, Salvatto said, and he talked about mentoring teenagers to keep them flying straight. He had recently moved to Sacramento and owned a record label.
Still, as his driver moved through Kansas City in the dark a year ago, a stolen black Infiniti G36 pulled alongside and someone opened fire, police said. The van swerved across a grass median and four freeway lanes, then crashed into a ditch.
Detective Babcock said the investigation was hampered early by the reluctance of Hicks' travel companions to cooperate. Some, when approached, even pretended they didn't know Hicks. But it wasn't long before rumors started to fly about a rap war -- and "Fat Tone" Watkins.
Fat Tone was a large figure, literally and figuratively. After he was shot and wounded in 2003, when he was 22, his next album cover showed him sitting up in a hospital gurney flashing a middle finger. He was "Fat Tone the Untouchable." He was once arrested in the killing of a pregnant woman, although the charges were dropped.
"Every shooting that happened (in Kansas City), you would get calls saying, 'Fat Tone did it, Fat Tone did it.' His name always came up," Babcock said. But when it came to Hicks' death, he said, the rumor had legs.
Soon after Hicks' slaying, Watkins was summoned to Kansas City's police headquarters for an interview. "I told him we expected retribution," Babcock recalled. "He said, 'I'm watching myself.' "
Several months later, Watkins denied in a rap song that he had killed Hicks, but "the rumor was that he admitted it," Babcock said.
Early on May 23, a security guard found the body of the 24-year-old Watkins in a housing development under construction in southwest Las Vegas. He'd been shot about 20 times and was slumped over the front seats of a blue 1992 Toyota Tercel, according to grand jury testimony. A few feet away, 22-year-old Jermaine Akins -- a friend who was a fugitive from federal cocaine-selling charges -- also lay dead after being shot 13 times.
At the time of the killing, San Francisco promoter Andre "Mac Minister" Dow, his friend Jason Mathis and call girl Lee Danae Laursen were in Las Vegas, according to police. Mathis had rented a house less than five blocks from the murder scene. Dow was with his 28-year-old girlfriend. Laursen, who came from the small town of Payson near Provo, Utah, might have been turning tricks for Mathis, police said.
Slaying victims Watkins and Akins were in Las Vegas for a Snoop Dogg concert at the Palms and were staying at the MGM Grand. According to Las Vegas police Detective Todd Hendrix, Watkins told his mother and girlfriend that Dow had promised him a meeting with Snoop Dogg.
Just hours before the killings, Hendrix said, MGM Grand cameras recorded Dow leaving the hotel with Watkins and Akins. He believes the victims were driven to the neighborhood where they were killed roughly 80 minutes later.
According to Mathis' arrest warrant, he later admitted to a friend that he had shot Watkins and Akins to avenge Hicks' killing. Mathis "said he shot Watkins, then chased Akins into the street and shot him while he was on the ground pleading for his life," the warrant alleged.
The Toyota Tercel, investigators now say, had been given to Dow's girlfriend by a Berkeley activist, a woman who once was her teacher. The car even bore a "Bush Lost" bumper sticker. Meanwhile, another car -- a white Pontiac Sunfire -- was spotted speeding away from the scene.
A day later, a white 2000 Pontiac Sunfire convertible was found burning in Vallejo. The registered owner: Lee Danae Laursen.
Laursen's father has told police that his daughter was forced into prostitution by Mathis, who "would escort her into various Las Vegas hotels hiding an AK-47 under his clothing," according to Mathis' arrest warrant. The father told police that he rescued his daughter once, in the month before the killing, but that she voluntarily returned to Las Vegas.
There, Laursen was seen in a gun shop nine days before the killing, where she bought ammunition similar to that used to kill Watkins and Akins, according to grand jury testimony.
Dow, 35, and Mathis, 26, were indicted Nov. 2 on two counts of murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit murder in the deaths of Watkins and Akins. Mathis was arrested July 12 in San Francisco, where police said he had beaten his girlfriend. Investigators soon discovered he was wanted in Las Vegas, where he later pleaded not guilty. His Las Vegas attorney, Keith Brower, was not available for comment
A Deadly Tale of Underground Rap Involving Mac Dre
A deadly tale of underground rap
Vallejo's Mac Dre was slain in a dispute over money -- rumors led to reprisal and 3 more killings, police say
Demian Bulwa, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 29, 2005
Vallejo rapper Andre "Mac Dre" Hicks wasn't on MTV, on magazine covers or in movies. But his clever, hardcore rhymes had an underground following, and when he was killed on a Kansas City freeway last November, hip-hop radio stations mourned him at length. Mac Dre was big enough for that.
Police investigators say Hicks, 34, was shot in a financial dispute, but the rumor mill said something sexier: that a West-Midwest rap war had flared and that a notorious Kansas City rapper dubbed "Fat Tone" had taken out Hicks. In the world of hip-hop, police say, bad blood often means good business.
Six months later, police say, a San Francisco rap promoter nicknamed "Mac Minister" and a friend avenged Hicks in Las Vegas by firing 33 assault-rifle rounds into two Kansas City men -- including Anthony "Fat Tone" Watkins.
The two San Francisco men were indicted on murder charges early this month. Two days later, a 21-year-old call girl who was in Las Vegas with them turned up dead in Fairfield, shot in the head.
The violent story, pieced together through interviews and court records, reflects the blurry line between rumor and reality in the world of underground rap.
Kansas City police Detective Everett Babcock, who cleared Watkins in Hicks' death, feared that rumors following the shooting might turn deadly.
"The tragedy of the whole thing is that, assuming (the woman killed in Fairfield) was killed as retribution for being a witness, that's three people dead over a financial matter over an amount of money that wouldn't pay for a weekend in Vegas," said Babcock, who would not elaborate on the alleged dispute except to say that Watkins was not a suspect in Hicks' death.
The saga began quietly, in the early morning hours of Nov. 1, 2004, as Hicks rode in a white van driven by a friend through Kansas City. He had been performing in the city, and he and other Bay Area rappers enjoyed second-home popularity there.
Hicks, who grew up in Vallejo's hardscrabble Country Club Crest neighborhood, first gained radio airplay as a teenager with a song titled, ironically, "2 Hard 4 the (expletive) Radio." He had long been the subject of rap world rumors. His mother, Wanda Salvatto, said she'd heard about her son's death at least three times before.
Despite serving a five-year prison sentence for conspiracy to commit bank robbery, Hicks was no thug, his mother said. His problems were behind him when he was killed, Salvatto said, and he talked about mentoring teenagers to keep them flying straight. He had recently moved to Sacramento and owned a record label.
Still, as his driver moved through Kansas City in the dark a year ago, a stolen black Infiniti G36 pulled alongside and someone opened fire, police said. The van swerved across a grass median and four freeway lanes, then crashed into a ditch.
Detective Babcock said the investigation was hampered early by the reluctance of Hicks' travel companions to cooperate. Some, when approached, even pretended they didn't know Hicks. But it wasn't long before rumors started to fly about a rap war -- and "Fat Tone" Watkins.
Fat Tone was a large figure, literally and figuratively. After he was shot and wounded in 2003, when he was 22, his next album cover showed him sitting up in a hospital gurney flashing a middle finger. He was "Fat Tone the Untouchable." He was once arrested in the killing of a pregnant woman, although the charges were dropped.
"Every shooting that happened (in Kansas City), you would get calls saying, 'Fat Tone did it, Fat Tone did it.' His name always came up," Babcock said. But when it came to Hicks' death, he said, the rumor had legs.
Soon after Hicks' slaying, Watkins was summoned to Kansas City's police headquarters for an interview. "I told him we expected retribution," Babcock recalled. "He said, 'I'm watching myself.' "
Several months later, Watkins denied in a rap song that he had killed Hicks, but "the rumor was that he admitted it," Babcock said.
Early on May 23, a security guard found the body of the 24-year-old Watkins in a housing development under construction in southwest Las Vegas. He'd been shot about 20 times and was slumped over the front seats of a blue 1992 Toyota Tercel, according to grand jury testimony. A few feet away, 22-year-old Jermaine Akins -- a friend who was a fugitive from federal cocaine-selling charges -- also lay dead after being shot 13 times.
At the time of the killing, San Francisco promoter Andre "Mac Minister" Dow, his friend Jason Mathis and call girl Lee Danae Laursen were in Las Vegas, according to police. Mathis had rented a house less than five blocks from the murder scene. Dow was with his 28-year-old girlfriend. Laursen, who came from the small town of Payson near Provo, Utah, might have been turning tricks for Mathis, police said.
Slaying victims Watkins and Akins were in Las Vegas for a Snoop Dogg concert at the Palms and were staying at the MGM Grand. According to Las Vegas police Detective Todd Hendrix, Watkins told his mother and girlfriend that Dow had promised him a meeting with Snoop Dogg.
Just hours before the killings, Hendrix said, MGM Grand cameras recorded Dow leaving the hotel with Watkins and Akins. He believes the victims were driven to the neighborhood where they were killed roughly 80 minutes later.
According to Mathis' arrest warrant, he later admitted to a friend that he had shot Watkins and Akins to avenge Hicks' killing. Mathis "said he shot Watkins, then chased Akins into the street and shot him while he was on the ground pleading for his life," the warrant alleged.
The Toyota Tercel, investigators now say, had been given to Dow's girlfriend by a Berkeley activist, a woman who once was her teacher. The car even bore a "Bush Lost" bumper sticker. Meanwhile, another car -- a white Pontiac Sunfire -- was spotted speeding away from the scene.
A day later, a white 2000 Pontiac Sunfire convertible was found burning in Vallejo. The registered owner: Lee Danae Laursen.
Laursen's father has told police that his daughter was forced into prostitution by Mathis, who "would escort her into various Las Vegas hotels hiding an AK-47 under his clothing," according to Mathis' arrest warrant. The father told police that he rescued his daughter once, in the month before the killing, but that she voluntarily returned to Las Vegas.
There, Laursen was seen in a gun shop nine days before the killing, where she bought ammunition similar to that used to kill Watkins and Akins, according to grand jury testimony.
Dow, 35, and Mathis, 26, were indicted Nov. 2 on two counts of murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit murder in the deaths of Watkins and Akins. Mathis was arrested July 12 in San Francisco, where police said he had beaten his girlfriend. Investigators soon discovered he was wanted in Las Vegas, where he later pleaded not guilty. His Las Vegas attorney, Keith Brower, was not available for comment
