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Aug 6, 2002
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I have a ? I am asking this out of curiosity, due to the fact that I went down south with my cousin's boyfriend. He said that he was from LA, to my suprise though we never made it to LA, we stopped at San Fernando. He insisted that it was LA, atleast to me a person not from LA, I thought that it wouldn't be considered LA. I wanted to visit some second cousins in an area of LA that the police call Holembeck, I am not sure what it really is called. I told my cousins boyfriend that Id roll out there solo cause shit might pop off. I told him cause there are hella cholos over there and I have tatts on my arms and neck so everyone will know that I bang. Ive been there before along time ago and visited my tia down there, believe me they knew I was a norteno and problems errupted. I asked how long was it to get there and he said 30-40 minutes I was like is that due to traffic or is it really that far?

But back to the point. This motha fucka tried telling me that San Fernando and the Pacoima area were the most gang infested area of LA. I aint from there but to me I thought I was in the valley area and from what I saw there were cholos but not like the area of East LA I was talking about. shit I remember even my homeboy was in the Marines and he brought a few ppl from down south to Fresno. I remember one of them telling the other that they werent from LA, that they were from the valley and he was from Pacoima. My cousins boyfriend went on to tell me that the San Fernando area was just as hard gang wise as East LA. correct me if I am wrong for feeling that he was blowing smoke. I mean is San Fernando really considered LA to ppl in the LA downtown area. Like I said I am ignorant to this, so I want ppl that know whats up to enlighten me. I would take my chances in the SF area a million times over my chances in ELA. Can I have some feedback please? He was confused on the gang subject N E ways. Cause he told me that I was stupid cause every one in LA is a sureno. I told him that there are bloods crips and maravilla. he looked at me and said mara what?
 

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San Fernando (yes that is part of "The Valley") is legally a district of the city of LA, just like Pacoima. So YES it is Los Angeles but many people who live there are too proud or something I guess to admit that (???). "Most gang infested area of LA" though... ? It's bad but that statement is bullshit point blank. South Central/Compton has the rep and it really is the most concentrated area of LA in terms of crime and gangs. East LA is bad but not as bad as the South Side. The valley is NorthWestern LA and its not as bad as ELA or SCLA (though it has loads and loads of real ass cholos) I'm sorry to break it to certain people. That dude D-Style might say it is the harderst too because he lives there and may have a bias, but I strongly disagree. The dude you are talkin about is lost for not knowing about Maravilla though, even though they are really just in ELA they are well known.
 
Apr 22, 2002
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San Fernando/Pacoima are in LA County and are technically the city of Los Angeles, I believe, but they're no where as "gang-infested" or dangerous as East or South LA. The Valley recently just tried to split apart from the city of Los Angeles actually..

And Hollenbeck is a police station..




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May 2, 2002
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lol @ leader. the valleys like disneyland compared to la. Don't get me wrong, shit goes down out here but south central and all those areas in la are a lot worse. Pacoima is the most gang infested area out in the valley, something like 35 or 40 people got killed there last year cuz of the gangs but i'd rather live there than in south central. In the valley you got gangs blocks or even miles away from each other (except for some areas like p-town), in la you have rival gangs around the corner or across the street. For the most part you can be out in the valley and not have to watch your back at all unless you got shit with people but in certain parts of la you gotta have eyes in the back of your head. Also, San Fernando, Van Nuys, Pacoima, Reseda, etc are considered as much a part of LA as the cities over the hill are even though they're closer. Everything besides south, west, & east, etc LA is county land.

With that guy that didn't know about MV, that's not really suprising. Some gangsters in the valley that haven't been locked up don't really know that much about la even though it's close. U got a lot of those kinda cholos then you got gangsters that know about every gang there is within 100 miles. Shit just depends. SFV gangs don't really trip off of LA gangs cuz there's a natural boundry between them (the hill that city walks on) so shit's pretty much seperated.
 
Aug 6, 2002
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thanks for the feedback I mean that guy my cousins with dont even seem like he paid attention to gang politics. Even my cousin says that he didnt act like "Im from LA, I am a gang expert" until she introduced him to me. I remember the first time he met our family he tripped cause most of us were tatted up. He thought we were gonna kick his ass. I mean in no way is this guy a punk, he seems like a stand up guy but when he spoke on this subject it seemed like straight lies. Krazy shit is that he told me how he knows about bulldogs cause his cousin was locked up, but then he is gonna turn around and try to tell me everyone is a sureno out there. THen I tell him hell naw what about the rips and b-dawgs and he gonna tell me they dont give a fuck about you up there. True they dont, I understand that, but that dont make them surenos.
Also he told me that I shouldnt wear my Pirates hat down there cause they gonna confuse me with Pacoima and their beefs. So I in no way want to make it seem like I think he is stupid, cause he could of let me find that out the hard way, but when he spoke on other subjects it seemed like bullshit.

Also I aint one of those shit talkers or anything, I saw a grip of bangers out there it just didnt have the same vibe as the part of LA I was going to.

Can someone answer my ? about what part of LA that police station is in (Holenbeck) or maybe it is a highschool not to sure, I suspect that is why the fools I know over there call it that?
 
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FC ENE said:
but then he is gonna turn around and try to tell me everyone is a sureno out there. THen I tell him hell naw what about the rips and b-dawgs and he gonna tell me they dont give a fuck about you up there. True they dont, I understand that, but that dont make them surenos.
Also he told me that I shouldnt wear my Pirates hat down there cause they gonna confuse me with Pacoima and their beefs. So I in no way want to make it seem like I think he is stupid, cause he could of let me find that out the hard way, but when he spoke on other subjects it seemed like bullshit.
That's true about the Pirates shit cuz you can get blasted or jumped by those eses from San Fer if they think your from Pacoima but if you are all flamed up they would probably just think you were from Pacoima Pirus. With that whole sureno thing, he probably meant that all the varrios in la were surenos I doubt he was talking about the bloods & crips.
 
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Im thankful he told me about the Pirate hat. But what I am saying is we were talking about cars and football most of the time then when we get to his cousins house he starts blabbing on and stutering things that didnt make sense. Cause instead of saying "of course they aint surenos" type of answer he is" well well I mean they dont like like you fools fools though" which let me know he was talking out his ass. shit he took me to a bomb ass taco place out there in San Fernando. Like I said they would of known what I was strictly from the tatts, I wasnt all flamed up, I was going to a his family dinner with my cousin so I was in non-banger type clothes but norte is right there on my body for the world to see. Banging aint him so he shouldnt of been trying to speak on shit he didnt really know, but that whole pirate thang I could tell he knew what he was saying so I trusted him and didnt wear it. but I be damned if I was going to wear a long sleeve shirt and cover up my tatts.
 
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LEADER oF tHE NEW CHURCH said:
d-style sorry for assuming. For some reason i FALSELY recall you saying something about it being harder in the SFV than anywhere else in LA. Oh well my mistake
Never said it was harder, probably said that parts of the valley are worse than some parts of la. In the other post I made I wasn't talking about LA as a whole as I was referring to certain parts like compton, south central, east la, pico union, etc. Not every city over the hill.
 
Dec 17, 2002
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My homeboy's mom is from San Fernando. She told us that Varrio San Fer (the gang) is one of the oldest and biggest scrapa gangs in the valley. You're either a VSF scrap or automatically an enemiga. The majority of the scrapas are VSF over there.
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May 17, 2002
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DOES SYLMAR HAVE GANGS?

WELL CHECK OUT ANY OF U EVER HEARD OF A CITY NAMED SYLMAR IN THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY. I STAYED AT 6 MOTEL THEIR CRUISED THROUGH THE HOOD A LITTLE. IS THERE ANY GANGS IN SYLMAR IT SEEMED MORE LIKE A RITCH PEOPLE TOWN. LET ME KNOW. I THINK THE STREET I WENT DOWN WAS ROXFORD AND FOOTHILL I DONT KNOW LET ME KNOW.DIDNT EVEN SEEM LIKE A GANGSTER TOWN
 
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most of sylmar is good but they do have gangs. There's Astoria Gardens over there and they got shit with San Fer. They also are backed up by toonerville.