John Stewart Stumbles
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I watched this, because I try to watch all the news channels online and on cable. It seemed like Jon Stewart back-peddled quite a bit throughout most of the interview. Chris Wallace showed he was the alpha the exchange.
I do agree with with what Jon Stewart said at the end about the promises Obama made about tearing the system apart, then falling back from it. That's one the reasons I stood in the line with a huge group of racists, voting for McCain, to cast my vote for Obama. I thought he might actually make some type of change to the system. Instead we're left with the same old politics, and business as usual.
I do agree with with what Jon Stewart said at the end about the promises Obama made about tearing the system apart, then falling back from it. That's one the reasons I stood in the line with a huge group of racists, voting for McCain, to cast my vote for Obama. I thought he might actually make some type of change to the system. Instead we're left with the same old politics, and business as usual.
I really don't think he "stumbled" during this interview; at one point Wallace was making accusations about John Stewart's political intentions (w/ his show) and if anything Stewart got overly defensive, which is uncharacteristic of him given that he is a comedian. But really that was about it. In regards the the questions about Palin, I think he handled himself adequately. Wallace was taking satirical bits from the show and asked him to speak seriously about it. The illusion that Chris Wallace was the "alpha" in this discussion rests in the writing/scripting/editing on behalf of Fox News, and not the dialogue between the two.
Whenever Ive heard someone press Stuart on how he paints politians on right, he backs out and goes woah woah woah, Im a comedian, do you see the show that comes on b4 me? its sock puppets making phone calls etc etc etc...this was the first time where he switched the script and went, " when did I say I was just a comedian??" thought that was pretty two faced and I could go on, but I think your stance that only people who represent the "left" of America on TV are essentially limited to comedians is why u didnt think Johnnie boy stumbled.
The way I see it, Stewart, rightfully, ripped OReilly not that long ago over the Obama bringing Common to the white house, Stewart feels good about himself, takes this show, runs into a bit of a wall, this guy is better than OReilly IMO. He put em to the rocks a bit, I mean the part where Stuart turns it around and says, what do you think I am at my highest aspiration, then denies he wants to be politcal player but then he says he does want to be heard nationally...I mean come on.... hes talkin out both sides of his mouth, he sounds good doin it, but its still bullshite
The way I see it, Stewart, rightfully, ripped OReilly not that long ago over the Obama bringing Common to the white house, Stewart feels good about himself, takes this show, runs into a bit of a wall, this guy is better than OReilly IMO. He put em to the rocks a bit, I mean the part where Stuart turns it around and says, what do you think I am at my highest aspiration, then denies he wants to be politcal player but then he says he does want to be heard nationally...I mean come on.... hes talkin out both sides of his mouth, he sounds good doin it, but its still bullshite
Well listing the lineup of MSNBC would be to easy and I guess we could argue what/who is defined as "leftist".
From what I understand about Olberman, he walked to his own beat at MSNBC, when Comcast aquired the station, they didnt like Olbermans attitude of this is my show I run it how I want and he got the axe...
Katie Couric, Matt Lauer, Greg Stephanaoplis, I think everyone on 60 minutes is pretty damm unbiased.......
Im not really sure what makes you classify ABC, CBS, NBC as right or center right, but Id be willing to listen
From what I understand about Olberman, he walked to his own beat at MSNBC, when Comcast aquired the station, they didnt like Olbermans attitude of this is my show I run it how I want and he got the axe...
Katie Couric, Matt Lauer, Greg Stephanaoplis, I think everyone on 60 minutes is pretty damm unbiased.......
Im not really sure what makes you classify ABC, CBS, NBC as right or center right, but Id be willing to listen
There is a difference between the way he feels towards right-wing politicians, and the manner in which he portrays them. He wasn't reacting to the thought of disliking Sarah Palin as, "Hold on, wait, I'm a comedian"; Rather, he was reacting to the manner, which in this case was a commercial involving people w/ Herpes. On his show it's considered obvious satire (which believe it or not, is a legitimate legal defense) and it's all a part of the comedic performance of his show. So when someone tries to characterize John Stewart (especially as a politician) according to these satirical/comedic elements, naturally he's going to say it's because he's a comedian, and rightfully so. This to me is pretty straight forward and requires little explanation.
This guy is better than O'Reilly because he relies on his wits rather than his ability to bully his counterpart. But this show was centered around putting Stewart on the spot and not really concerning itself with the substance of the things he believes in. In other words, it was a setup from the start. Continuing from what I said above; you don't take a comedian, highlight some of his content and say, "How could you feel this way?"; then when he responds with "Dude, I'm a comedian", you say, "Ohhh surrree!". It's a feeble attempt at character assassination. This is what Wallace attempted to do by showcasing the Palin/Herpes video as if he (stewart) were within the same realm as himself and/or O'Reilly, which is precisely why Stewart responded by saying "Do you think I am like you?!". Further, wanting to voice your opinion and be heard, and trying to abstain from being a politician are not mutually exclusive. The people in this forum are using this stage to talk about what they believe in - but this doesn't mean any of them want to be politicians. The fact that Stewart has a much bigger stage does not really change any of that.
This guy is better than O'Reilly because he relies on his wits rather than his ability to bully his counterpart. But this show was centered around putting Stewart on the spot and not really concerning itself with the substance of the things he believes in. In other words, it was a setup from the start. Continuing from what I said above; you don't take a comedian, highlight some of his content and say, "How could you feel this way?"; then when he responds with "Dude, I'm a comedian", you say, "Ohhh surrree!". It's a feeble attempt at character assassination. This is what Wallace attempted to do by showcasing the Palin/Herpes video as if he (stewart) were within the same realm as himself and/or O'Reilly, which is precisely why Stewart responded by saying "Do you think I am like you?!". Further, wanting to voice your opinion and be heard, and trying to abstain from being a politician are not mutually exclusive. The people in this forum are using this stage to talk about what they believe in - but this doesn't mean any of them want to be politicians. The fact that Stewart has a much bigger stage does not really change any of that.
oh of course, Stuart has had him on his show a couple times, I think, Wallace has been planning this for a while and I thought he executed his playbook well enough to rattle Stuart enough to make him backpeddle, i chose the world stumble because Stuart is obviously a very smart man and he sure as hell wasnt pwned, but I thought he got chopped down to size, if only for a couple minutes.
Fox News Blames Jon Stewart For Their Own Biased Editing Of His Appearance On Fox News Sunday
Chris Wallace was on Don Imus’ Fox Business show this morning where he blamed Jon Stewart for the editing out of Stewart’s criticism of Fox News in their interview.
Here is the video from Media Matters:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-jon-stewart-edit
Imus brought up that Stewart pointed out that Fox News edited out his criticism of the network, and Wallace responded by blaming Jon Stewart. He said, “If he looked bad it was his fault. We did edit, but the fact is people say well look at the whole version. The reason that anybody has seen the full version is that we put it out. We weren’t hiding anything. We put it on our website. Very much as he does, when you do an interview you often edit it. Quite frankly, Jon was filibustering and he went on and on for 24 minutes and we had to cut it up, cut it down. It was still 14 minutes, which was longer than we had intended, and if you want to watch the full interview, though I can’t imagine why anyone would. It is there on the Fox News Sunday website.”
Wallace never actually answered the criticism that Fox News intentionally edited out Stewart’s mention of the leaked emails of FNC exec Bill Sammons that prove that the network has a bias and it does give marching orders.
In an interview that supposedly went 10 minutes over why did Fox News choose to edit a five second reference to Bill Sammon’s emails?
The answer is that those 5 seconds change the context of the whole exchange.
Here is what Fox News aired:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-jon-stewart-edit
Here is the whole exchange:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-jon-stewart-edit
By cutting Stewart’s proof of marching orders and intentional bias, it looks like the question is up for debate.
Wallace’s excuse about Stewart “filibustering” is a joke. Using his own logic, Wallace and Fox News didn’t think that Jon Stewart’s mention of evidence of the network’s bias was important so they left it on the cutting room floor. The interview was cut in a way to make Stewart look bad. It doesn’t matter that they put the full interview up on their website a day later. They got their message out to those Fox News viewers who watched the show live and on replay on Sunday.
Jon Stewart has more viewers than every Fox News program but one. I suspect that Stewart is one of the main reasons that younger people don’t watch Fox News. He is the main critic of Fox, and has devoted countless segments to mocking and exposing their bias and techniques. The Fox News editing of a Stewart segment on their network has happened before. Some funny editing was used when he was on The O’Reilly Factor debating about Common.
You need to see the big picture in order to understand that what happened on Sunday wasn’t only about Fox News trying to keep evidence of their bias off their network. This is also a campaign to delegitimize Jon Stewart. Fox is pushing the message hard that Stewart is a secret liberal activist with a political agenda.
Fox News feels threatened by Stewart, and they are trying discredit their foremost critic.
That is what the hack job edit was really about on Fox News Sunday.
