Jets, Giants want new home to host 2014 Super Bowl

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP)—You might need more than a ticket to go to the Super Bowl in 2014—try a winter coat, gloves and a hat.

The Giants and Jets want to bring the Super Bowl to their new 82,500-seat stadium in New Jersey in four years in what most certainly would be a chilly NFL title game. The $1.6 billion stadium set to open next year does not have a retractable roof or a dome.

“Some of the greatest games in NFL history have been played in cold weather, including our championship game in Green Bay two years ago,” Giants chief executive John Mara said Thursday in an e-mail to The Associated Press. “So why not the Super Bowl? There is no better place than New York and New Jersey to showcase the premier sporting event in the world.”

After receiving approval from a league committee to bid, the Giants and Jets announced on Thursday that they will submit a preliminary proposal to host the game by April 1.

The NFL owners’ Super Bowl Advisory Committee allowed the bid despite the traditional requirement that host regions have a minimum temperature of 50 degrees or stadiums with domes or retractable roofs. The committee gave approval with the understanding that the bid represents a unique opportunity to celebrate the new stadium and the great heritage of the NFL in the New York region.

No other cities have announced plans to bid on the game, although other contenders are expected.

Team owners will decide where the 2014 Super Bowl will be played in a vote at a league meeting in Dallas in May. The next four Super Bowls will be played in Miami, Dallas, Indianapolis and New Orleans.

NFL history is dotted with some remarkable cold-weather title games. The Giants beat the Packers 23-20 in overtime in the NFC title game on Jan. 21, 2008, in Green Bay, Wis., with the temperatures at minus-3 degrees (wind chill of minus-24).

Cincinnati beat San Diego 27-7 in the 1981 AFC title game known as the Freezer Bowl. The temperature in Ohio was minus-9, with 35 mph winds making it feel like minus-59.

The one almost everyone remembers is the 1967 NFL title game known as the Ice Bowl in Green Bay. The Packers beat Dallas 21-17 in a game played with the temperature at minus-13 and a wind chill of minus-48.

“People still talk about what a great game that was,” former Cowboys halfback Dan Reeves said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. “The weather is something people talk about a lot. It was difficult to play in, don’t get me wrong. But football is an outdoor sport and I loved to play outdoors. That’s the way the game is supposed to be played and I would like to see that.”

Reeves, who threw a 50-yard touchdown pass in the game, said some of the fan events associated with a Super Bowl might be limited by cold weather, which could be why the league has concerns.

Seattle Seahawks cornerback Marcus Trufant(notes) thought a Super Bowl in cold weather might be worth a try.

“That would be stepping out (of) the box a little bit,” he said Thursday. “That would be a little different. That could work. You’ve got to play in cold weather anyway, so most teams are used to it. That would be different for the Super Bowl.”

A New York/New Jersey Super Bowl would generate hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity, and serve as a major boost for the area, creating hundreds of jobs related to staging the game, the teams said.

“It’s time for the biggest game in football to be played on the biggest stage in the world,” Jets owner Woody Johnson and Giants co-owner Jonathan Tisch said in a joint statement as chairmen of the bid committee. “We are confident that the appeal and prestige of the New York City metropolitan region, coupled with the innovative capabilities of our brand-new state-of-the-art facility, can provide a unique and exciting experience for the teams and fans, as well as the entire league and the sport of football.”

The Jets are familiar with Super Bowl bids. When they were negotiating to build the West Side Stadium in Manhattan a few years ago, they had won the NFL bid to host the 2010 Super Bowl. That proposed stadium had a dome, but the Jets never got the OK to build it.

The new stadium will be the first constructed to serve as the home stadium of two NFL teams. It also holds the distinction of being the largest privately financed stadium in U.S. history.

The Super Bowl would join an impressive list of events scheduled for the new stadium, including college football matchups of Navy vs. Notre Dame and Army vs. Rutgers, and stops on the Bon Jovi and U2 world concert tours.

“Even though our stadium is months away from completion, with this bid, it is setting an early precedent of what’s to come,” said Steve Tisch, chairman and executive vice president of the Giants.

Highlights of the new stadium include four massive HD video display boards in each of the corners; a ribbon board that circles the interior bowl; HD monitors throughout the stadium; and 20 HD video pylons.

Outside the stadium, a 350,000-square-foot outdoor plaza will offer fan activities and pregame entertainment zones. A signature amenity will be a new rail line that drops off passengers in front of the stadium.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-coldsuperbowl&prov=ap&type=lgns

 
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sorry and shit but say the Patriots and the Cardinals make it to the super bowl.....thats an advantage for the the cold weather team......that starts a whole new amount of bitching adn complaining that we have to listen to for two weeks leading up to the game....fucc that
 
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hell no, that's bullshit logic... I don't care if your team is Arizona, Jacksonville, or New England.. if you're good enough to make it to the Super Bowl, it shouldn't matter where it's being held - your job is to be prepared and execute a game plan either way... this aint junior high we're talkin about, this is grown-ass men getting paid millions of dollars to play at the highest level... if they cant handle the cold they shouldnt be playin football...
 

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You say that an open stadium would be a disadvantage to warm weather teams.

On the other hand, a domed stadium is a major advantage to warm weather teams.

If your team is full of a bunch of pussies that can't catch a ball in cold weather, they got not right to win the superbowl anyway.
 

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fuck warm weather super bowls every year. some of the most memorable games in nfl history were played in the snow/rain/mud. sick of seeing the super bowl in the same places.
 
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Who wants to see the biggest game of tha year decided by something stupid like the fuccin tucc rule in a game in the snow??? A dome isnt an advantage to either team....its perfect conditions for a football game...no wind, no rain, no snow, 72 degrees....regardless of how "pussy" the players are or not dont matter....No one wants to see a 6-3 super bowl because the weather was so fucced up it was nearly impossible to move the ball.....you wanna see the two best play on the field determine who the winner is, not the team who could handle the weather best determine who the winner is
 
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I wanna see the team who could handle EVERYTHING best, including the weather (if any)

I dunno about you but I grew up playing football in Minnesota in every type of weather condition imaginable... I did it for free, and it was FUN.

unlike basketball, hockey, and even baseball, weather is a PART of football... always has been, always will be... I cant stand the fact the Vikings play under a toiletdome, and right at this very moment they're fighting tooth and nail for funding to completely renovate it into an open-air stadium..

and no, I wouldn't care if the super bowl ended 6-3, if I got to witness 3 hours of gritty hard-nosed football where the players gave it their all in the biggest game of their lives..
 

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I went to ESPN's "Worst Game in NFL History". Pittsburgh v. Miami. It was the game that ended up 3-0, and a punt got stuck in the mud. There was a big monsoon. They had us hanging out in the concourse for an hour and a half. All 60,000 of us bunched together. People were giving away their tickets. I sat there in the rain soaking wet. I watched a game of football that for the first 58 minutes 0-0.

It was fucking awesome.
 
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I understand your point but basically I just gotta disagree.....

I do believe however that to create an actual home field advantage all stadiums should be outdoors....but the Super Bowl isnt about home field advantage its about who the best team is. You work all season for home field advantage through the playoffs....so lets say a team like tha Chargers from a warm weather climate is 14-2 and they gotta go play the Giants that were 10-6...is it fair that the Chargers would have to play in cold and snow and conditions that they arent used too??? that's why its important for it to be played in warm weather at least....thats all Im saying....
 
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I understand your point but basically I just gotta disagree.....

I do believe however that to create an actual home field advantage all stadiums should be outdoors....but the Super Bowl isnt about home field advantage its about who the best team is. You work all season for home field advantage through the playoffs....so lets say a team like tha Chargers from a warm weather climate is 14-2 and they gotta go play the Giants that were 10-6...is it fair that the Chargers would have to play in cold and snow and conditions that they arent used too??? that's why its important for it to be played in warm weather at least....thats all Im saying....
Theyve played Chiefs, Broncos, Giants, Browns and Titans. Those are all cold weather games. Thats since Oct. 25. Damn near every playoff game will be cold. So far in the AFC playoffs between the leaders and teams in the hunt there are 7 outdoor teams in a cold climate. After playing in those, what would one more hurt. I've always hated the play the Super Bowl in a dome or Tropical Climate. Its fucking football.
 

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I understand your point but basically I just gotta disagree.....

I do believe however that to create an actual home field advantage all stadiums should be outdoors....but the Super Bowl isnt about home field advantage its about who the best team is. You work all season for home field advantage through the playoffs....so lets say a team like tha Chargers from a warm weather climate is 14-2 and they gotta go play the Giants that were 10-6...is it fair that the Chargers would have to play in cold and snow and conditions that they arent used too??? that's why its important for it to be played in warm weather at least....thats all Im saying....

so the chargers dont play outdoor games in cold climates throughout the season??? if that were the case you would have a point, but thats not the case so you dont.
 
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what im saying is that home field advantage is supposed to be exactly that....an ADVANTAGE.....so when a warm weather team goes to a colder climate to play an away game during tha season or the playoffs i aint got a problem with that....

all Im sayin is it gives an unfair competitive advantage to a cold weather team over a warm weather team and that aint whut tha super bowl is about.....
 
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what im saying is that home field advantage is supposed to be exactly that....an ADVANTAGE.....so when a warm weather team goes to a colder climate to play an away game during tha season or the playoffs i aint got a problem with that....

all Im sayin is it gives an unfair competitive advantage to a cold weather team over a warm weather team and that aint whut tha super bowl is about.....
Thats a punk ass pussy way to play football. Thats all. There should be a random ass drawing out of a hat at the 1st of the year.

Aint it an advantage for a warm weather team if they play a cold weather tea, in the Super Bowl? Your forgetting that side of it.
 

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what im saying is that home field advantage is supposed to be exactly that....an ADVANTAGE.....so when a warm weather team goes to a colder climate to play an away game during tha season or the playoffs i aint got a problem with that....

all Im sayin is it gives an unfair competitive advantage to a cold weather team over a warm weather team and that aint whut tha super bowl is about.....
i think youre overblowing the advantage of the weather just a little bit. most teams are made up of a mixture of players hailing from different parts of the country. some kid who grew up in minnesota isnt gonna forget what playing in the cold feels like.

do teams stock their rosters with players from their own areas? if that was the case you would have a point, but thats not the case. so you dont.
 
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you're telling me that playing 8 games a year and practicing in the same weather you're gonna playing in you're not gonna get used to it? not to mention the crowd noise and general comfort of getting to stay at your own house and sleep in your own bed and stay completely in your routine before you go out and play a game.....I think you vastly under estimate tha home field advantage....and true teams are made up of people from everywhere....but you get used to tha climate that you're in... for example I used to live in Cali and moved to OK, when i first got here i thought 40 degrees was tha worst shit ever had me wearin two coats and shit.....now I take out tha trash in like 20 degree weather wearin like a T and some shorts....

and there is no disadvantage to a warm weather team playing in 70 degree weather....if they played the shit in like 90 degree weather you could make that arguement...but its fuccin Feb. its not 90 in Feb.
 
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you're telling me that playing 8 games a year and practicing in the same weather you're gonna playing in you're not gonna get used to it? not to mention the crowd noise and general comfort of getting to stay at your own house and sleep in your own bed and stay completely in your routine before you go out and play a game.....I think you vastly under estimate tha home field advantage....and true teams are made up of people from everywhere....but you get used to tha climate that you're in... for example I used to live in Cali and moved to OK, when i first got here i thought 40 degrees was tha worst shit ever had me wearin two coats and shit.....now I take out tha trash in like 20 degree weather wearin like a T and some shorts....

and there is no disadvantage to a warm weather team playing in 70 degree weather....if they played the shit in like 90 degree weather you could make that arguement...but its fuccin Feb. its not 90 in Feb.
They practice in facilities where they adjust the temperature so its just as easy for a cold climate team to prep for a warm game than a warm climate prepping for the cold. They are paid MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars but are gonna cry if they play in the snow or cold? Fuck that, dont make it to the super bowl if its such a problem. I say go for it. The NFL needs a change to shut these fucking cry babies up. They are slowly but surely taking the football outta the NFL. When you think OLD football, Im thinkin Green Bay and Chicago dukin it out in rain sleet fog and snow. Not in a fuckin building with the temp set at 73.
 

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So what about the Steelers last year? They were 12-4 with the hardest schedule in Superbowl history. The Cardinals were 9-7. Pittsburgh was a great outdoor team, Cardinals were a great indoor team. If that homefield advantage argument holds up, then it should have been an outdoor game. You give the Cardinals a MAJOR advantage by suddenly bringing the Superbowl into favorable passing weather.

Teams that pound the ball in cold weather are at an obvious disadvantage to passing teams in the superbowl.
 
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So what about the Steelers last year? They were 12-4 with the hardest schedule in Superbowl history. The Cardinals were 9-7. Pittsburgh was a great outdoor team, Cardinals were a great indoor team. If that homefield advantage argument holds up, then it should have been an outdoor game. You give the Cardinals a MAJOR advantage by suddenly bringing the Superbowl into favorable passing weather.

Teams that pound the ball in cold weather are at an obvious disadvantage to passing teams in the superbowl.
AFC= 2 Indoor
NFC= 7 Indoor

theres a clear advantage to NFC.
 

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you're telling me that playing 8 games a year and practicing in the same weather you're gonna playing in you're not gonna get used to it? not to mention the crowd noise and general comfort of getting to stay at your own house and sleep in your own bed and stay completely in your routine before you go out and play a game.....I think you vastly under estimate tha home field advantage....and true teams are made up of people from everywhere....but you get used to tha climate that you're in... for example I used to live in Cali and moved to OK, when i first got here i thought 40 degrees was tha worst shit ever had me wearin two coats and shit.....now I take out tha trash in like 20 degree weather wearin like a T and some shorts....

and there is no disadvantage to a warm weather team playing in 70 degree weather....if they played the shit in like 90 degree weather you could make that arguement...but its fuccin Feb. its not 90 in Feb.
how bout we be really fair and play the first half at one teams stadium and the 2nd half at the other.