Jesus did NOT exist as a human being!

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There are no documents written between 7 BCE and 33 CE that mention the existence of Jesus Christ.

The Gospel of Q, which is a collection of philosophical teachings, stories, with some 'miracles,' was first written down
in 50 CE. It includes no dates referring to the life of Jesus, although he was said to have been executed 30 CE. These
teachings were said to have been passed on orally, and finally written in 50 CE.

The New Testament was being fabricated up until 150 CE, by people who did not even see or hear Jesus in their lifetime. The book reveals nothing about the time
Jesus lived or about the location or time of his birth. Paul does not describe Jesus as doing anything remotely "divine." He blames Jesus' death on Satan & demons.
Timothy blames the Jews for the death of Christ, but wrote this passage long after the death of Paul, at a time when the "teachings" were already widely distributed.

The canonical Gospels were written in this order: Mark 70 CE, Matthew/Luke 15 years later, then John. None of the identities of the authors are known, and they did
NOT live during the same time Jesus supposedly did.

The Christian Scriptures are said to have information on the preachings and actions of Jesus that never happened. It was a form of religious propaganda against the
Jews, who were blamed for the murder of Christ. Events were added to give readers the idea that it satisfied the prophecies from Hebrew Scriptures, such as the
birthplace of Jesus...Bethlehem. Ideas were copied from other religions of the area; these include: the virgin Mary, resurrection, Jesus IS God, Jesus asking his
apostles to baptize in the name of "Trinity," healing the sick, raising the dead, defeating demonic spirits, etc.

The earliest Christian group was the Gnostics, or Jewish Christians. They believed that God could not take human form. They did not believe Jesus existed as a God,
deity, or even as a human being. Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian born in 37 CE, described Jesus as a wise man who was crucified by Pilate.
Most historians agree that this passage was not written by Josephus, but added later by a Christian, because it does not fit into the context of the book.
There is a second passage about Jesus' brother James being stoned to death. Some believe it is authentic; others feel it was also a forgery.

Suetonius wrote The Lives of the Caesars Circa in 120 CE. In one of his passages, he refers to Chrestus, who expelled Jews from Rome. Many believe this to be a
misspelling of Jesus; it is not. Chrestus is a common name in Greece.

Pope Leo X, who lived from 1513 to 1521, was quoted as saying, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
 
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phil said:
do you just keep hopping from one conspiracy theory site to another??
This has nothing to do with conspiracy. I'm looking for proof to Jesus' existence or non-existence. I found this information on a Christian website.
 
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BaSICCally said:
where does it say that he did NOT exist?
What is "it?" These are facts about the time period during & after Jesus'. It is proof that he may not have existed.
 
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SHEA said:
OH!...WOW!

THANKS FOR THE INFO- I GUESS NOW IT IS TIME TO THROW ALL MY BELIEFS & THOUGHTS OF JESUS OUT THE WINDOW NOW!

THANKS!....I DUNNO WHAT I WOULD DO WITHOUT THE SICCNESS TO GUIDE MY LIFE-PATH.

ITS A WEBSITE.....YOU CANNOT CONVINCE PEOPLE ON WHAT TO BELIEVE OVER A WEBSITE MAN....GOOD LUCK TRYING THOUGH.

BUT YOUR CUT & PASTE DONT BUDGE ME 1 BIT-
THE SAME AS IF I COULDNT BUDGE YOU EITHER IF I CAME ON HERE WITH A BUNCH OF CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA.
I don't cut & paste. I read and summarize. I didn't know you were Christian...But I'm glad my post made a difference in your life...If I could do it all over again...I wouldn't change a thing.
 

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I just don't understand why cats gotta hop on other people's beliefs....If people got faith, let them be! Do you think that God REALLY spoke to Muhamed in the desert? Or is it okay to knock Christianity but not Islam....Just curious...
 

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Jesus was a real live breathing walking man of God. Just because you never write anything down doesn't mean that you did not exist. So lookin in your books ain't gonna tell you shit. If I erased all written record of your existence and you died and couldn't vouch for yourself does that mean that you never were alive? What if only your friends remembered what you did and tried to pass on your knowledge and nobody believed them, does that mean they imagined you?

And if they did make it up, guess what? Then that also proves that there was a living breathing Jesus. Cuz the man who came up with and taught the original ideas is who would of been Jesus. And that couldn't of happened cuz the main idea was truth and it is impossible to make up truth.

Let me tell you somethin about the Bible. The Old Testament is carnal warfare (fighting with your hands) and the New Testament is spiritual warfare (fighting with your mind).

I'll give you an example: Cain and Able is a lesson on jealousy and murder in it's purest form. It's what true cannibalism is. Instead of learning to solve a problem and work it out, you consume somebody in order to take what they have. Cain tried to "buy" God's Love and Able gave something out of Love. Cain's intention was evil and Able's intention was pure. It's a good and evil war that started when time started. Try to look at the whole Old Testament it in that light and as being that simple.

Here's a cool trick take Cain and Able remove the word "and" and say it three times really fast. Hmmm... wierd, huh?

Watch your back for Cain, some can be healed and some don't wanna be healed. The first is an obstacle the latter is your enemy.

The Trinity is negative and positive communication combined for one purpose, belief, or goal.

There is yes and no Good.
And there is yes and no Bad.

I cannot prove to you that Jesus existed. But any man who can do what it is believed Jesus can do I will call my King and Savior. Cuz there is only one man who can do it.
 
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Ruthless rick, check out www.infidels.org and go to the forums, they actualy have desent debates their on religion...if thats what your looking for. There is too many blind rebuttals, with feelings attached here, for me to bring up religion anymore.
 
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RR presented fact mayne, u cant jsut dismiss what he said. The facts do not suggest that Jesus did not live, rather they show that the bible may have had some false history in it about Christ.
 
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DJ Mark 7 said:
I just don't understand why cats gotta hop on other people's beliefs....If people got faith, let them be!
Yup i agree. The siccness athiests remind me of some internet Jehovas wittnesses or somethin. Always trying to convince others to become athiests, but WHO CARES. Believe what you want to believe, but dont cram it down someones throat.
 
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^^^What the fuck you talking about? Have I EVER ONCE tried to convert anyone on this board? I, along with most of the very few other atheist/agnostics on this board, have simply argued and debated certain parts of certain religions. Find one 2-0-Sixx quote that states “you should be atheist” or anything in that nature.

People come to the GOM to discuss, debate, teach, learn etc. Whenever I create a thread that has to do with religion or god it is simply for discussion. As HERESY once stated, "I can care less if you worship a stick."
 
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I havent hit up this board for a few months and i sifted thru it for a good hour and found threads like, "RELIGION IS STUPID AS FUCK", "WHICH RELIGION IS THE FAKEST", "Religion is for world take over" and some other shit like that. Thats what i'm talking about
 
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Look at my first post , what i'm trying to say is who gives a fuck what people believe, just stand for what you believe in. I know you feel strongly for your beliefs, as do I for mine, but i dont go around bashing other people for what they stand for. Thats why i agree with what mark posted. I guess i should have worded it more correctly.