it's true... Iraq doesn't have WMD's
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Updated: 10:55 PM EST
Possible Chemical Discovery in Iraq
Blister Gas Weapons Found, Initial Tests Show
By ROBERT H. REID, AP
BAGHDAD, Iraq (Jan. 10) - Danish and Icelandic troops have uncovered a cache of 36 shells buried in the Iraqi desert, and preliminary tests showed they contained a liquid blister agent, the Danish military said Saturday.
Mortar shells unearthed by forces stationed in southern Iraq are shown lined up on a road near Basra.
The 120mm mortar shells were thought to be leftovers from the eight-year war between Iraq and neighboring Iran, which ended in 1988, said U.S. Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt.
The shells were found by Danish engineering troops and Icelandic de-miners near Al Quarnah, north of the city of Basra where Denmark's 410 troops are based, the Danish Army Operational Command said in a written statement.
The shells were wrapped in plastic but had been damaged, and they appeared to have been buried for at least 10 years, the statement said.
It said British experts did a preliminary test and said the shells contained "blister gas," but did not elaborate.
Before the war, the United States alleged Iraq still had stockpiles of mustard gas, a World War I-era blister agent that is stored in liquid form. U.S. intelligence officials also claimed Iraq had sarin, cyclosarin and VX, which are extremely deadly nerve agents.
"We're doing some preliminary tests to ensure that if they do contain any kind of blister agent that we can dispose of them properly," Kimmitt said.
The Danish military emphasized that the tests were not definitive. In the weeks after the Iraq war, the U.S.-led coalition found several caches that tested positive for mustard gas but later turned out to contain missile fuel or other chemicals.
Other discoveries turned out to be old caches that had already been tagged by United Nations inspectors and were scheduled for destruction.
Saddam Hussein's regime used chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers during that war and killed an estimated 5,000 Kurdish civilians in a chemical attack on the northern city of Halabja in 1988.
President Bush said the United States was going to war to destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, but a nine-month search by a succession of U.S. teams has failed to find any current stockpiles of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.
The lack of evidence has led critics to suggest the Bush administration either mishandled or exaggerated its knowledge of Iraq's alleged arsenal.
In October, Dutch marines found several dozen artillery shells from the 1991 Gulf War in the southern Iraqi town of Samawah, but the shells contained no biological or chemical agents. Samawah is 100 miles west of the southern region where the Danes discovered shells Saturday.
01/10/04 15:13 ET
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Updated: 10:55 PM EST
Possible Chemical Discovery in Iraq
Blister Gas Weapons Found, Initial Tests Show
By ROBERT H. REID, AP
BAGHDAD, Iraq (Jan. 10) - Danish and Icelandic troops have uncovered a cache of 36 shells buried in the Iraqi desert, and preliminary tests showed they contained a liquid blister agent, the Danish military said Saturday.
Mortar shells unearthed by forces stationed in southern Iraq are shown lined up on a road near Basra.
The 120mm mortar shells were thought to be leftovers from the eight-year war between Iraq and neighboring Iran, which ended in 1988, said U.S. Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt.
The shells were found by Danish engineering troops and Icelandic de-miners near Al Quarnah, north of the city of Basra where Denmark's 410 troops are based, the Danish Army Operational Command said in a written statement.
The shells were wrapped in plastic but had been damaged, and they appeared to have been buried for at least 10 years, the statement said.
It said British experts did a preliminary test and said the shells contained "blister gas," but did not elaborate.
Before the war, the United States alleged Iraq still had stockpiles of mustard gas, a World War I-era blister agent that is stored in liquid form. U.S. intelligence officials also claimed Iraq had sarin, cyclosarin and VX, which are extremely deadly nerve agents.
"We're doing some preliminary tests to ensure that if they do contain any kind of blister agent that we can dispose of them properly," Kimmitt said.
The Danish military emphasized that the tests were not definitive. In the weeks after the Iraq war, the U.S.-led coalition found several caches that tested positive for mustard gas but later turned out to contain missile fuel or other chemicals.
Other discoveries turned out to be old caches that had already been tagged by United Nations inspectors and were scheduled for destruction.
Saddam Hussein's regime used chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers during that war and killed an estimated 5,000 Kurdish civilians in a chemical attack on the northern city of Halabja in 1988.
President Bush said the United States was going to war to destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, but a nine-month search by a succession of U.S. teams has failed to find any current stockpiles of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.
The lack of evidence has led critics to suggest the Bush administration either mishandled or exaggerated its knowledge of Iraq's alleged arsenal.
In October, Dutch marines found several dozen artillery shells from the 1991 Gulf War in the southern Iraqi town of Samawah, but the shells contained no biological or chemical agents. Samawah is 100 miles west of the southern region where the Danes discovered shells Saturday.
01/10/04 15:13 ET
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yes no weapons of WMD have been found, but the agents for the construction of WMD have, there is a difference yes, but the overall bottom line is, Saddam, once he did or had them, would use them, i don't think anyone here is disagree with that...
the cylinders, the plutonium, uranium, sulfuric agents, multiple acidic agents, and in the science lab of the DR. Death guy, they found viles of Ebola...why would they need that?
i still say it's to early to say there are none, that is quite a large country to search...
the cylinders, the plutonium, uranium, sulfuric agents, multiple acidic agents, and in the science lab of the DR. Death guy, they found viles of Ebola...why would they need that?
i still say it's to early to say there are none, that is quite a large country to search...
^^^when did they find all that stuff, did i miss something here.......and im sure the United States has 1000 times as much of that shit as any other country....but we are not dangerous right we dont use those types of weapons...wrong we are the only country to use a nuke so this is complete bullshit
Dosia...WTF?
calm the fuCC down homie...lmao
it's been noted allready by the US and UN leaders that so called "INGREDENTS" i'm not sayin how much or that is was enough to make thousands of bombs, just that enough has been found...but yes no actual "BOMBS" have been found...
as for your reference to the bomb the US dropped, you gotta take into context the situation that was at hand, it's not even the same type of scenario, but i get your point on the topic...
and yes the US has nuclear weapons...but we don't threaten countries with them, or commit mass gencide on our own people, or just up and storm Canada or Mexico and try to wipe them out like Irag has done to Kuwait, and Iran, and the Saudis...there is a difference, you can't put the US and Irag on an even scale.
i'm not sayin the US is clean, by no means, but the US does does abide by the UN sanctions, and the Laws of war, which Iraq and Saddam, clearly did not...
calm the fuCC down homie...lmao
it's been noted allready by the US and UN leaders that so called "INGREDENTS" i'm not sayin how much or that is was enough to make thousands of bombs, just that enough has been found...but yes no actual "BOMBS" have been found...
as for your reference to the bomb the US dropped, you gotta take into context the situation that was at hand, it's not even the same type of scenario, but i get your point on the topic...
and yes the US has nuclear weapons...but we don't threaten countries with them, or commit mass gencide on our own people, or just up and storm Canada or Mexico and try to wipe them out like Irag has done to Kuwait, and Iran, and the Saudis...there is a difference, you can't put the US and Irag on an even scale.
i'm not sayin the US is clean, by no means, but the US does does abide by the UN sanctions, and the Laws of war, which Iraq and Saddam, clearly did not...
Since when has the US abided by the rules of war?!?!
Go back to Vietnam. The ILLEGAL bombings of Combadia and Loas. Millions of innocent people were murdered by the US....illegally. What about the illegal killings throughout South America?MILLIONS off innocent people murdered by the US...illegally. What about the this current invasion in Iraq? Check heresy's thread.
Go back to Vietnam. The ILLEGAL bombings of Combadia and Loas. Millions of innocent people were murdered by the US....illegally. What about the illegal killings throughout South America?MILLIONS off innocent people murdered by the US...illegally. What about the this current invasion in Iraq? Check heresy's thread.
Vietnam...WTF?...you gotta be kidding right?...i see the torture, the mass genocide, the killing of there own civilians...that was the US and it's doin right?...lmao
i know about the villages that were slaughtered, but that did not come from the command, or the brass, that was done in the field on there own accordance, yes it was wrong, no dening it...but please spare me the "one sided bullshit your tryina throw...as if Vietnam or North Korea was or ever has abided by the laws of war, or un sanctions...
as for Cambodia, Loas, or southern Loas to be exact, the black ops that took place, and the assassinations have allready been uncovered, and the personal involved have allready been tried in court, from the numbers i remember from my intelligence days, it was upward around 500 COMMAND personal that are serving life sentences without parole...
in war there is no certainity that problems or wrong doings will not happen, you cannot expect to go to war with a country like North Korea and expect bad shit not to happen, it's inevitable....on both side...
as for south america, come on, we have been asked by multiple countries to help do so called EXTERMINATION sweeps and raids thoroughout south america...gorillas and extremists are not soldiers, and under the UN guidelines do not fall under the laws of war, or in THE HANDELING OF THE RISISTENCE.
first basic premise in war is you must be a soldier within that country, for the government of that country, desiganted to fight and die if needed for that country...gorillas, extremists, suicide bombers do not fall under that law...if they did, the Israel could not just up and bomb any part of the city they deem neccessary, but since they are dealing with extremists, there are no laws of war to abide by...
besides i'm not sayin the US is a poster child for the "right way to war", by no means, but the US does not put itself in situations, where it could be or would tried by the Geneva Conventions...come on all the countries you named, they weren't fighting a military vs military war, it was gorillas, or extremists, that were fighting, or they were proforming mass genocide...
but i feel you on the whole issue of war, i do...i don't like it either...but that is Human nature...seek and destroy, divide and conquer...man allways wants more, more than the next man, it's our history
people in this country actualy belive that Israel and Palistine are fighting for land...thats fucking ignorance at it's best...that battle has taken place for ages upon ages, and it's a religious war, always has been, always will be...if it was Palistine and the Lebonese, they could live together just fine, why?, because they are muslim, and Israel is a Jewish state...this goes back to the Turks and the Moors, the british and the Russians, all of whom at one point and time have tried to make there way to Israel, just for being a Jewish state...
but war is only a continuation of itself, a reflection of our society and world as a whole...it will never stop...
i know about the villages that were slaughtered, but that did not come from the command, or the brass, that was done in the field on there own accordance, yes it was wrong, no dening it...but please spare me the "one sided bullshit your tryina throw...as if Vietnam or North Korea was or ever has abided by the laws of war, or un sanctions...
as for Cambodia, Loas, or southern Loas to be exact, the black ops that took place, and the assassinations have allready been uncovered, and the personal involved have allready been tried in court, from the numbers i remember from my intelligence days, it was upward around 500 COMMAND personal that are serving life sentences without parole...
in war there is no certainity that problems or wrong doings will not happen, you cannot expect to go to war with a country like North Korea and expect bad shit not to happen, it's inevitable....on both side...
as for south america, come on, we have been asked by multiple countries to help do so called EXTERMINATION sweeps and raids thoroughout south america...gorillas and extremists are not soldiers, and under the UN guidelines do not fall under the laws of war, or in THE HANDELING OF THE RISISTENCE.
first basic premise in war is you must be a soldier within that country, for the government of that country, desiganted to fight and die if needed for that country...gorillas, extremists, suicide bombers do not fall under that law...if they did, the Israel could not just up and bomb any part of the city they deem neccessary, but since they are dealing with extremists, there are no laws of war to abide by...
besides i'm not sayin the US is a poster child for the "right way to war", by no means, but the US does not put itself in situations, where it could be or would tried by the Geneva Conventions...come on all the countries you named, they weren't fighting a military vs military war, it was gorillas, or extremists, that were fighting, or they were proforming mass genocide...
but i feel you on the whole issue of war, i do...i don't like it either...but that is Human nature...seek and destroy, divide and conquer...man allways wants more, more than the next man, it's our history
people in this country actualy belive that Israel and Palistine are fighting for land...thats fucking ignorance at it's best...that battle has taken place for ages upon ages, and it's a religious war, always has been, always will be...if it was Palistine and the Lebonese, they could live together just fine, why?, because they are muslim, and Israel is a Jewish state...this goes back to the Turks and the Moors, the british and the Russians, all of whom at one point and time have tried to make there way to Israel, just for being a Jewish state...
but war is only a continuation of itself, a reflection of our society and world as a whole...it will never stop...
Why would I be kidding about Vietnam/Cambodia or Laos? I am dead serious. The us Illegally bombed these countries for years. This was a war crime. Nixon was LUCKY Watergate occurred. Do your homework comrade. Millions of people died...illegally.
Does the name Henry Kissinger ring a bell? What about Nixon? In my eyes both of these men should have been executed for their cold hearted crimes. Nixon is dead...Kissinger is still alive [recently bush appointed him to head the 9/11 investigation
] and wanted for war crimes in other countries.
Bombing innocent people in neutral countries is not something that just goes "bad". This was a war crime. Did you not state, "but the US does abide by the UN sanctions, and the Laws of war" If you believe the US did not brake any laws of war, you really need to do your homework.
Did you read ANYTHING from that link I posted?
I will comment on the rest when I return from lunch
Does the name Henry Kissinger ring a bell? What about Nixon? In my eyes both of these men should have been executed for their cold hearted crimes. Nixon is dead...Kissinger is still alive [recently bush appointed him to head the 9/11 investigation
] and wanted for war crimes in other countries. Bombing innocent people in neutral countries is not something that just goes "bad". This was a war crime. Did you not state, "but the US does abide by the UN sanctions, and the Laws of war" If you believe the US did not brake any laws of war, you really need to do your homework.
Did you read ANYTHING from that link I posted?
I will comment on the rest when I return from lunch
is it any secvret that the US usues the drug ring and money laundring thru the prison systems and the borders for its own benefit...lmao...come on, you actin like this is NEW news...ha ha....
Kissinger was never linked LEGALLY to the crime, as per the US statement, i agree i think he had alot to do with it, but thats not my call...and Nixon?...well he's dead now ain't he?...lmao...but your right on him, he stunk of evil ambition from the get go...
WAR is not a basketball game, you act like you can referee the war and it's situation like it's a game...you nor i, nor anyone else, knows EXACTLY what took place in Vietnam, or Korea, or Lebanon, or Loas, or wherever the fuck it happened...only those that where there, and those that are dead...
i WAS in desert storm, so i KNOW of the conflict there, and the shit i saw...which contrary to popular belief, was alot more worse than the news could show...the US people then said the same shit they are saying now...but they weren't there, YOU weren't there, but i'm sure your going to tell me that i had no idea what was going on...all the mass genocide we saw...the actual killings of civilians by Iraqi's to make it look like it was the US...chemical weapons, bio weapons...i've SEEN it face to face...
but back here at home, the masses said, we weren't justified then, that there was nothing really going on...it was just because we wanted to go in...it was a hoax...WTF?, gettin my ass shot at was hoax?...murdered women and children?...infants?...
i love how people, who never stepped foot on a battle field, have this self righteous take on "HOW IT REALLY IS"...thats why i don't trip, and get mad....becuase i DO actually know what it feels like...
and i was only in desert storm, so i can imagine what the conditions were in Vietnma, and Korea, and Lebanon, where the enemies tactics were do whatever it takes...remember this tho, before the US ever stepped foot in any of those countries, the SHIT WAS ALLREADY in full effect...and the UN, who conviently calls on the US when the WORLD POLICE are needed, seems to be unable to do anything...
and for the last time yes the US has commited horrible horendous deeds, i do not deny it, i never said they didn't...but your painting a picture like it was the US and the US only, and thats not fair, war is never fair, war in all real actuality never has ANY REAL RULES...once your out there...it's a whole different situation.
Kissinger was never linked LEGALLY to the crime, as per the US statement, i agree i think he had alot to do with it, but thats not my call...and Nixon?...well he's dead now ain't he?...lmao...but your right on him, he stunk of evil ambition from the get go...
WAR is not a basketball game, you act like you can referee the war and it's situation like it's a game...you nor i, nor anyone else, knows EXACTLY what took place in Vietnam, or Korea, or Lebanon, or Loas, or wherever the fuck it happened...only those that where there, and those that are dead...
i WAS in desert storm, so i KNOW of the conflict there, and the shit i saw...which contrary to popular belief, was alot more worse than the news could show...the US people then said the same shit they are saying now...but they weren't there, YOU weren't there, but i'm sure your going to tell me that i had no idea what was going on...all the mass genocide we saw...the actual killings of civilians by Iraqi's to make it look like it was the US...chemical weapons, bio weapons...i've SEEN it face to face...
but back here at home, the masses said, we weren't justified then, that there was nothing really going on...it was just because we wanted to go in...it was a hoax...WTF?, gettin my ass shot at was hoax?...murdered women and children?...infants?...
i love how people, who never stepped foot on a battle field, have this self righteous take on "HOW IT REALLY IS"...thats why i don't trip, and get mad....becuase i DO actually know what it feels like...
and i was only in desert storm, so i can imagine what the conditions were in Vietnma, and Korea, and Lebanon, where the enemies tactics were do whatever it takes...remember this tho, before the US ever stepped foot in any of those countries, the SHIT WAS ALLREADY in full effect...and the UN, who conviently calls on the US when the WORLD POLICE are needed, seems to be unable to do anything...
and for the last time yes the US has commited horrible horendous deeds, i do not deny it, i never said they didn't...but your painting a picture like it was the US and the US only, and thats not fair, war is never fair, war in all real actuality never has ANY REAL RULES...once your out there...it's a whole different situation.
Is this directed at me? If so, when did I “act” in any way like this is new news?
Sorry comrade but your incorrect about this. Kissinger has been linked LEGALLY to the bombings of Cambodia and Laos and so was Nixon. Nixon would have most likely been impeached for these bombings if it were not for Watergate, him and Kissinger could have done some serious jail time. You can read about this on the net…I have even posted a very good video about Kissinger you can find on the “Videos” thread, or simply download here
When did I “act like” war is a basketball game? You think I do not understand the complexity of war? I agree that there are a lot of things we do not know from past wars, but there is a lot of information that we do know and that is what I am basing my arguments on…from what the government had admitted to doing and what it has been accused of doing (with solid proof).
You have to remember why you and I are even having a discussion…you stated, "but the US does abide by the UN sanctions, and the Laws of war"
I have simply argued that you are wrong about this statement and I have clearly shown WHY you are wrong. What America did in Cambodia and Laos was COMPLETELY ILLEGAL and they did NOT abide by the laws of war.
.
I don’t recall anybody saying there wasn’t anything going on back then or now for that matter. All sides have agreed that Saddam was a horrible man who did horrible things. This was never an issue.
Is this directed at me or are you just ranting about people in general?
Yes, before the US ever stepped foot inside Vietnam, the French were the ones oppressing the Vietnamese. For years it was the French slaughtering the these people until the people couldn’t take anymore and fought for themselves and won. Yes, I know my history. Don’t “act” like the US did a good thing in Vietnam. Millions of people died, and for what?
I’m glad you can at least admit it.
I simply stated the facts.
Sorry comrade but your incorrect about this. Kissinger has been linked LEGALLY to the bombings of Cambodia and Laos and so was Nixon. Nixon would have most likely been impeached for these bombings if it were not for Watergate, him and Kissinger could have done some serious jail time. You can read about this on the net…I have even posted a very good video about Kissinger you can find on the “Videos” thread, or simply download here
When did I “act like” war is a basketball game? You think I do not understand the complexity of war? I agree that there are a lot of things we do not know from past wars, but there is a lot of information that we do know and that is what I am basing my arguments on…from what the government had admitted to doing and what it has been accused of doing (with solid proof).
You have to remember why you and I are even having a discussion…you stated, "but the US does abide by the UN sanctions, and the Laws of war"
I have simply argued that you are wrong about this statement and I have clearly shown WHY you are wrong. What America did in Cambodia and Laos was COMPLETELY ILLEGAL and they did NOT abide by the laws of war.
.
I don’t recall anybody saying there wasn’t anything going on back then or now for that matter. All sides have agreed that Saddam was a horrible man who did horrible things. This was never an issue.
Is this directed at me or are you just ranting about people in general?
Yes, before the US ever stepped foot inside Vietnam, the French were the ones oppressing the Vietnamese. For years it was the French slaughtering the these people until the people couldn’t take anymore and fought for themselves and won. Yes, I know my history. Don’t “act” like the US did a good thing in Vietnam. Millions of people died, and for what?
I’m glad you can at least admit it.
I simply stated the facts.
it's not a fact homie, if your not there it's not a fact...and i'm not trying to unsult you, or by any means negate what your saying, my position is the same as yours, i agree that nurmerous horrible deeds have been commited by the US...
but having said that...
i do not feel that in any of the cases you have stated, this is my opinion...that the US overall in any of those conflicts was the worse party involved...that said, and before you jump on that, i'm not saying the US did not do bad deeds...
example:
take Iraq for instance, on a comparision to the US on a nation to nation look...
ruler: Iraq has a saddistic and evil killing machine, who at all cost will keep them dead, poor and starving all so he can keep money for himself.
US, president, we don't like him, but does he take our food away, and give one meal a day from the back of a truck?, does he bomb is his people?, does he order mexico or canada invaded for any reason because he says so? we do have poor people, but people do have the right and ability to succeed in this country
i could go on with each country you mentioned and it's the same shit...thats what i'm refering to when i talk abou the UN laws, and shit like that...those countries, not the people, the people never deserve to die, but those countries when a dictator does that, it is inevitiable for a war not to happen...and when that happens we all know bad shit is ahead...
bottom line is agree with you, but not on everything, but the basis of what your sayin i feel you...but you and i included don't know the most of it....i caught a glimpse, and i tasted the reaction when i got home from Iraq...there where protesters there calling us child killers, and infant killers...when it wasn't the case, but just like you, they had their PROOF...lmao...
there is no such thing as a fact unless you were there to see it, both you and i are only qouting what we either heard or have read...
as for your vietnam answer, why don't you quite with the idea that they didn't oppress their own people also?...why so much blame on some one else...i agree that, that war was uselss, damn we never should have went, but thats world pressure for you...
and quit cryin about who was oppressing who, the french or the brits....blah blah blah...weaker nations always get conqeured, thats fact, thats human nature, it's wrong but damn live with it, both you and i would like for it to be different, but it never will, all i can do is pray for those is crisis, and thank god i am not...
and i ain't ranting, i just know for a fact you have never stepped on the battle field....one reason being i used to think exactly like you...until i hit the field, until i saw the shit first hand...until i came home to jeers and people throwin shit at us...yes it did happen, and you know why?, cuzz the media portrayed it that way...
i respect your opinions tho, at least you have them, and you care enough to write about it...but one thing, don't get caught up in reading articles, and news, and shit like that...you telling me to read this, or watch that....
real news is discovered, and it's hidden...not taped delayed and transcripted...
reason i say that, is having been in the intelligence field, i saw news as news really was, before it was gov't washed and re transcripted over the air or on paper....
and everything, i mean EVERYTHING you read or have seen, has been gov't washed....trust me, it's alot deeper than you can imagine...
but having said that...
i do not feel that in any of the cases you have stated, this is my opinion...that the US overall in any of those conflicts was the worse party involved...that said, and before you jump on that, i'm not saying the US did not do bad deeds...
example:
take Iraq for instance, on a comparision to the US on a nation to nation look...
ruler: Iraq has a saddistic and evil killing machine, who at all cost will keep them dead, poor and starving all so he can keep money for himself.
US, president, we don't like him, but does he take our food away, and give one meal a day from the back of a truck?, does he bomb is his people?, does he order mexico or canada invaded for any reason because he says so? we do have poor people, but people do have the right and ability to succeed in this country
i could go on with each country you mentioned and it's the same shit...thats what i'm refering to when i talk abou the UN laws, and shit like that...those countries, not the people, the people never deserve to die, but those countries when a dictator does that, it is inevitiable for a war not to happen...and when that happens we all know bad shit is ahead...
bottom line is agree with you, but not on everything, but the basis of what your sayin i feel you...but you and i included don't know the most of it....i caught a glimpse, and i tasted the reaction when i got home from Iraq...there where protesters there calling us child killers, and infant killers...when it wasn't the case, but just like you, they had their PROOF...lmao...
there is no such thing as a fact unless you were there to see it, both you and i are only qouting what we either heard or have read...
as for your vietnam answer, why don't you quite with the idea that they didn't oppress their own people also?...why so much blame on some one else...i agree that, that war was uselss, damn we never should have went, but thats world pressure for you...
and quit cryin about who was oppressing who, the french or the brits....blah blah blah...weaker nations always get conqeured, thats fact, thats human nature, it's wrong but damn live with it, both you and i would like for it to be different, but it never will, all i can do is pray for those is crisis, and thank god i am not...
and i ain't ranting, i just know for a fact you have never stepped on the battle field....one reason being i used to think exactly like you...until i hit the field, until i saw the shit first hand...until i came home to jeers and people throwin shit at us...yes it did happen, and you know why?, cuzz the media portrayed it that way...
i respect your opinions tho, at least you have them, and you care enough to write about it...but one thing, don't get caught up in reading articles, and news, and shit like that...you telling me to read this, or watch that....
real news is discovered, and it's hidden...not taped delayed and transcripted...
reason i say that, is having been in the intelligence field, i saw news as news really was, before it was gov't washed and re transcripted over the air or on paper....
and everything, i mean EVERYTHING you read or have seen, has been gov't washed....trust me, it's alot deeper than you can imagine...