this blog makes some good points....
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Eli Manning has agreed to a six-year $97 million contract with the Giants, making him the highest-paid NFL player. He is widely regarded as one of the league's premier quarterbacks.
Michael Vick, if he ever manages to find a team, will likely sign a contract for less than $1 million. Lately, he has been widely criticized as a "mediocre-to-poor" quarterback.
So what is the difference between this $100 million quarterback and this $1 million quarterback? I believe we can sum it up under two items. Dogfighting and a David Tyree catch.
Michael Vick participated in disgusting criminal activities that have kept him away from the game of football. Eli Manning had his catch miraculously hauled in by David Tyree, leading to an improbable victory and a Super Bowl ring. (If Tyree doesn't hold onto the ball, is Eli getting this contract?)
Clearly Eli has made better decisions and has far more to show for his efforts. But I want to keep this comparison on the field. So lets put these two very different paths aside for the moment and look at the numbers.
In five years, Eli Manning has a 56 percent completion rate, 6.4 yard passing average, 200 passing yards per game, 98 TD, 74 Int, 120 sacks, and a 76.1 QB rating.
In six years, Michael Vick has a 54 percent completion rate, 6.7 yard passing average, 155 passing yards per game, 71 TD, 52 Int, 187 sacks, and a 75.7 QB rating.
The statistics are nearly a wash, from the touchdown-to-interception ratio, to the completion percentage, to the quarterback rating. The stats do show Eli being sacked significantly fewer times (though this is, at least in part, a reflection on Vick's tendency to run) and producing more passing touchdowns in less time.
The pure passing statistics are very close, but we'll give the edge to Eli. But what of the running game? This is Michael Vick, after all, and the running game is an integral part of what he brings to the quarterback position.
In five years, Eli Manning has a 2.0 yard rushing average, 2.9 rushing yards per game, and three rushing TD. In 2005 he rushed for a career-high 80 yards.
In six years, Michael Vick has a 7.3 yard rushing average, 50.2 rushing yards per game, and 21 rushing TD. In 2006 he rushed for a record 1,039 yards.
Couple Michael Vick's record rushing stats with his passing stats, and (I think) the numbers show that he is the better quarterback. He has about the same passing ability, but far-superior running ability.
We should also look at the talent that each player had surrounding them. In his years with the Giants, Eli Manning has played behind an offensive line that has included Pro-bowlers Shaun O'hara and Chris Snee. He has handed the ball off to Pro-bowlers Tiki Barber and (FB) Madison Hedgecock.
He has thrown to the ball to Pro-bowlers Jeremy Shockey and AP NFL All-Pro selection Plaxico Burress.
In his years with the Falcons, Michael Vick has handed the ball off to Pro-bowler Warrick Dunn and has thrown the ball to Pro-Bowlers Algae Crumpler and Roddy White.
It is a very wide barrier that separates the current state of Michael Vick's career from Eli Manning's. But there's not much separation in their ability on the field. Neither is a great passer. Vick is a great runner. I give the edge to Vick.
On the field, anyway.
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Eli Manning has agreed to a six-year $97 million contract with the Giants, making him the highest-paid NFL player. He is widely regarded as one of the league's premier quarterbacks.
Michael Vick, if he ever manages to find a team, will likely sign a contract for less than $1 million. Lately, he has been widely criticized as a "mediocre-to-poor" quarterback.
So what is the difference between this $100 million quarterback and this $1 million quarterback? I believe we can sum it up under two items. Dogfighting and a David Tyree catch.
Michael Vick participated in disgusting criminal activities that have kept him away from the game of football. Eli Manning had his catch miraculously hauled in by David Tyree, leading to an improbable victory and a Super Bowl ring. (If Tyree doesn't hold onto the ball, is Eli getting this contract?)
Clearly Eli has made better decisions and has far more to show for his efforts. But I want to keep this comparison on the field. So lets put these two very different paths aside for the moment and look at the numbers.
In five years, Eli Manning has a 56 percent completion rate, 6.4 yard passing average, 200 passing yards per game, 98 TD, 74 Int, 120 sacks, and a 76.1 QB rating.
In six years, Michael Vick has a 54 percent completion rate, 6.7 yard passing average, 155 passing yards per game, 71 TD, 52 Int, 187 sacks, and a 75.7 QB rating.
The statistics are nearly a wash, from the touchdown-to-interception ratio, to the completion percentage, to the quarterback rating. The stats do show Eli being sacked significantly fewer times (though this is, at least in part, a reflection on Vick's tendency to run) and producing more passing touchdowns in less time.
The pure passing statistics are very close, but we'll give the edge to Eli. But what of the running game? This is Michael Vick, after all, and the running game is an integral part of what he brings to the quarterback position.
In five years, Eli Manning has a 2.0 yard rushing average, 2.9 rushing yards per game, and three rushing TD. In 2005 he rushed for a career-high 80 yards.
In six years, Michael Vick has a 7.3 yard rushing average, 50.2 rushing yards per game, and 21 rushing TD. In 2006 he rushed for a record 1,039 yards.
Couple Michael Vick's record rushing stats with his passing stats, and (I think) the numbers show that he is the better quarterback. He has about the same passing ability, but far-superior running ability.
We should also look at the talent that each player had surrounding them. In his years with the Giants, Eli Manning has played behind an offensive line that has included Pro-bowlers Shaun O'hara and Chris Snee. He has handed the ball off to Pro-bowlers Tiki Barber and (FB) Madison Hedgecock.
He has thrown to the ball to Pro-bowlers Jeremy Shockey and AP NFL All-Pro selection Plaxico Burress.
In his years with the Falcons, Michael Vick has handed the ball off to Pro-bowler Warrick Dunn and has thrown the ball to Pro-Bowlers Algae Crumpler and Roddy White.
It is a very wide barrier that separates the current state of Michael Vick's career from Eli Manning's. But there's not much separation in their ability on the field. Neither is a great passer. Vick is a great runner. I give the edge to Vick.
On the field, anyway.
