wus wittit yall? i got a question before I hit the studio....the engineer that works there told my homeboy who is also gonna be recordin there, that the beats shoudl all be seperated by each sound and have every sound on a diff trac....(like, high hats on one trac, bass on anotha, etc.......) so whut im askin is, is that whut cats usually be doin when they bring they beats into the studio, have em all chopped up? cuzz i kno its easier for the mixer to mix and get the sound sooundin the best, but is that really necessary? cuzz my producer dont wanna go thru the haslle of recordin trac by trac.....feel me?
is it neccesary?
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Make sure each track has the same starting point.
You're goin' to want to provide the necessary info when you bring the files in for a session.
What Sample Rate?(I would assume you are using ether 44.1khz, or 48khz)
What Bit Rate (16, 24, 32?)
It helps to know the Tempo(BPM's)
and what Format your audio Files are in (AIF , WAV, SDII)
You're goin' to want to provide the necessary info when you bring the files in for a session.
What Sample Rate?(I would assume you are using ether 44.1khz, or 48khz)
What Bit Rate (16, 24, 32?)
It helps to know the Tempo(BPM's)
and what Format your audio Files are in (AIF , WAV, SDII)
i dont know, shit, i mixed the levels and shit all down on the triton, what is the advantage of pulling it apart, sounds like an easy way to fuck up a beat to me, what about bringing the triton file to a studio with a triton?
doesnt make sense to pull a track apart if its already mixed perfectly on the triton, simple eq should fix the minor problem right?
doesnt make sense to pull a track apart if its already mixed perfectly on the triton, simple eq should fix the minor problem right?
I like to track everything out, that way I can get in there and tweak the sounds individually, or make some minor adjusments to my mixes. I'd rather have it that way than havin' to dump it direct from my modules into a stereo track. I also prefer to have The beat tracked out with the vocals all on the same page. Mixing that way is just much easier for me
What you think sounds perfect, probably isn't if you don't have any real mixing experience. You might make beats on a triton and think they are mixed good but is that it? Done any actual song mixing? If you don't know what to listen for then you arn't going to be a very good judge of that.
Also, when you say that simple EQ's should fix minor problems, you don't realize that little adjustments to a mixed down beat affect EVERYTHING in the beat. You very easily can clean up one sound while fucking up everything else.
Say you want a portrait of yourself. You're real good at drawing stick figures so do you just do it yourself or have a real painter paint one? Cats track everything out for a reason. It's not just to create more work and waste time. The fact that this thread exists lets me know that you should trust your engineer to do his job. He probably knows a lot more about it than you do and if he says your beats need to be tracked then track them out and let him work.
Also, when you say that simple EQ's should fix minor problems, you don't realize that little adjustments to a mixed down beat affect EVERYTHING in the beat. You very easily can clean up one sound while fucking up everything else.
Say you want a portrait of yourself. You're real good at drawing stick figures so do you just do it yourself or have a real painter paint one? Cats track everything out for a reason. It's not just to create more work and waste time. The fact that this thread exists lets me know that you should trust your engineer to do his job. He probably knows a lot more about it than you do and if he says your beats need to be tracked then track them out and let him work.
what your saying doesnt make sense. i take it that you are doing hip hop/rap. so lets use this example.
you have a beat from the triton and you record it in stereo (the way you are doing). you tracked it to a computer,adat,hard disc recorder or whatever. after that you lay the vocals down. in hip hop/rap the SNARE needs to be up front (needs to be loud/distinct). what if your snare takes a back seat to the vocals? especially when you have the snare and bass in the middle?
so you wanna make that snare brighter (or loud)? you boost the high's on that song. well if you mixed the vocals down with that beat the high's in the vocals are going to be over emphasized as well...ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. i hope you know what that is.
why not multitrack the beat, track the vocals and mix the SONG? that way you can pan an ad lib vocal directly opposite of a synth sound (if they are in harmony and this is just an *example*).
you do it that way you will have more CREATIVE CONTROL over your music.
you have a beat from the triton and you record it in stereo (the way you are doing). you tracked it to a computer,adat,hard disc recorder or whatever. after that you lay the vocals down. in hip hop/rap the SNARE needs to be up front (needs to be loud/distinct). what if your snare takes a back seat to the vocals? especially when you have the snare and bass in the middle?
so you wanna make that snare brighter (or loud)? you boost the high's on that song. well if you mixed the vocals down with that beat the high's in the vocals are going to be over emphasized as well...ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. i hope you know what that is.
why not multitrack the beat, track the vocals and mix the SONG? that way you can pan an ad lib vocal directly opposite of a synth sound (if they are in harmony and this is just an *example*).
you do it that way you will have more CREATIVE CONTROL over your music.
what would be your point of using a real studio, if your not gonna get your song mixed properly
if your producer programmed a track on the triton or another workstation, what is so difficult about panning the track hard left or hard right or assigning to a specific output so you can track it to tape
and when they tell you to separate the instruments that doesn't mean you have to sit there and record track for track, all they need u to do is have the instruments or drum sounds separated so u can process em individually
if your producer programmed a track on the triton or another workstation, what is so difficult about panning the track hard left or hard right or assigning to a specific output so you can track it to tape
and when they tell you to separate the instruments that doesn't mean you have to sit there and record track for track, all they need u to do is have the instruments or drum sounds separated so u can process em individually
what if the frequencies in the kick drum are not blending right with the bass? something has to get cut so you cut the bass at 275hz by 3db. you play it back and you find that its the kick that has offending frequencies and not the bass. what do you do? if you cut 275 out that kick track (with all the other drum tracks) you will cut 275 from EVERY instrument on that track. now the hi hats can go for that kind of cut but what about your snare?
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