IS GOD ON AMERICA'S SIDE?
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THE GOD OF THE BIBLE DOES HATE AND HAS BEEN AGAINST *MANY* NATIONS IN THE PAST. HE HAS BEEN *AGAINST* ISRAEL, EGYPT, SYRIA AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES. READ THE BOOK OF ISAIAH STARTING WITH CHAPTER 9. MYSTERY BABYLON (THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) WILL BE *NO* DIFFERENT. MAY THE GOOD LORD BURN HER WITH FIRE.
HERE ARE VERSES IN REGARDS TO GODS HATRED.
PSALMS 5:4-5
PSALMS 31:5-6
PSALMS 45:6-7
MALACHI 2:16
REV 2:6-7
JUDITH 5:17-18
ECCL 15: 13-14
ECCL 12: 7
MANY TIMES IN THE BIBLE GOD HAS SPOKEN AND SAID I WILL DO THIS, I WILL DO THAT, I FEEL THIS WAY, I FEEL THAT WAY. ARE THESE THINGS ANTHROMORPHISMS? IF SO GODS "LOVE" WOULD BE AN ATHROMORPHISM.
CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. NOT THE GOD OF THE QU'RAN, NOT THE 156,888,553,746 GODS IN THE VEDAS OR THE GODS AFRIKAN RELIGIONS. THE ARGUEMENT OF ALL OF THESE GODS BEING THE SAME HAS BEEN ***DESTROYED*** BY MYSELF *AND* XIANEX.
HAVE A GOOD ONE.
STEAK TIME FOR ME
:HGK:
PS FOR THOSE VERSES I PROVIDED FIND THE GREEK AND HEBREW RENDERINGS AND FORM YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
HERE ARE VERSES IN REGARDS TO GODS HATRED.
PSALMS 5:4-5
PSALMS 31:5-6
PSALMS 45:6-7
MALACHI 2:16
REV 2:6-7
JUDITH 5:17-18
ECCL 15: 13-14
ECCL 12: 7
MANY TIMES IN THE BIBLE GOD HAS SPOKEN AND SAID I WILL DO THIS, I WILL DO THAT, I FEEL THIS WAY, I FEEL THAT WAY. ARE THESE THINGS ANTHROMORPHISMS? IF SO GODS "LOVE" WOULD BE AN ATHROMORPHISM.
CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. NOT THE GOD OF THE QU'RAN, NOT THE 156,888,553,746 GODS IN THE VEDAS OR THE GODS AFRIKAN RELIGIONS. THE ARGUEMENT OF ALL OF THESE GODS BEING THE SAME HAS BEEN ***DESTROYED*** BY MYSELF *AND* XIANEX.
HAVE A GOOD ONE.
STEAK TIME FOR ME
:HGK:
PS FOR THOSE VERSES I PROVIDED FIND THE GREEK AND HEBREW RENDERINGS AND FORM YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
I don't think God supports or is on the side of any particular country. I think God supports individual human beings and the lifestyle they choose to lead. For example, if God was on America's side, that is saying that he on the side of everyone in the country, even the Atheists, the adulterers, and thiefs in the government, in your city, and on this board.
@miggidy
There is no modern government that is purely good...
And God does not choose a lesser evil.
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@Heresy
God is transcendental. His love is pure. There is no question of Him adhering to hate, as it is born from a mixture of ignorance. And we all know that God is not ignorant.
It may seem, from our understanding that God "hates" something or another, but this is materialistic in thought.
God's Love is not anthropomorphic because it is not human love/lust. His Love is PURE.
Hate, itself, is IMPURE. Hate constitutes desire. Desire constitutes a thing that is beyond the desirer.
There is nothing beyond for God to desire. As The Eternal Supreme Entity, He is eternally and supremely satisfied.
being able to quote Scriptures is meaningless unless one can understand God's transcendental position.
America will be burned along with everything else.
There is no modern government that is purely good...
And God does not choose a lesser evil.
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@Heresy
God is transcendental. His love is pure. There is no question of Him adhering to hate, as it is born from a mixture of ignorance. And we all know that God is not ignorant.
It may seem, from our understanding that God "hates" something or another, but this is materialistic in thought.
God's Love is not anthropomorphic because it is not human love/lust. His Love is PURE.
Hate, itself, is IMPURE. Hate constitutes desire. Desire constitutes a thing that is beyond the desirer.
There is nothing beyond for God to desire. As The Eternal Supreme Entity, He is eternally and supremely satisfied.
being able to quote Scriptures is meaningless unless one can understand God's transcendental position.
America will be burned along with everything else.
^^^^
Maybe....
All I know is that God will never stand by "evil"....
You might think evil is ignorance but let me ask you this,
what do you have to say about those who are not ignorant, but are still evil?
George Bush is a good example of this, I think this man is evil.
He knowingly performs evil acts.
On the other hand, Bin Laden is evil out of ignorance....
Maybe....
All I know is that God will never stand by "evil"....
You might think evil is ignorance but let me ask you this,
what do you have to say about those who are not ignorant, but are still evil?
George Bush is a good example of this, I think this man is evil.
He knowingly performs evil acts.
On the other hand, Bin Laden is evil out of ignorance....
916 YOUR OPINIONS OF GOD ARE BASED ON YOUR OPINIONS AND BELIEFS. YOU SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT GOD CANNOT BE ***JUSTIFIED*** OR LOVING IN HIS HATE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A ***DIFFERENT*** CONCEPT OF HATE. JUST AS YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT CONCEPT (COMPARED TO MY CONCEPT) OF "GOD."
PEOPLE SAY "IF GOD IS REAL WHY DID HE LET THAT CHILD DIE" OR "IF GOD IS REAL WHY DID THAT OLD LADY GET RAPED"
WELL, HAVE YOU (NOT YOU SPECIFICALLY) EVER LOOKED AT REASONS OTHER THAN GOD? HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT JUST MAYBE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON? ALL WE SEE IS A PERSON BEING KILLED. WE THINK IT'S SAD, SHED A COUPLE OF CROCODILE TEARS AND GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS. WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE *LIMITED* AND DON'T SEE THE *ENTIRE* PICTURE.
YOU SAY GOD AND HIS LOVE IS PURE. I AGREE HOWEVER I KNOW THAT GOD IS A ***JUST*** GOD. IN BEING JUST ***JUDGEMENT*** IS DISPENSED. THE GOD I ADHERE TO (YOU AND I DON'T ADHERE TO THE SAME GOD) IS NOT A "FORCE" OR "POWER" BUT SPECIFIC. THIS GOD HAS SAID MANY TIMES I JUDGE, I, AM, I SHOW MERCY, I DO THIS ETC ETC ETC. HE DID *NOT* EXPRESS THESE THINGS BECAUSE MAN WAS TOO DUMB TO COMPREHEND THEM. YOU ARE LOOKING AT HATE FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN MYSELF. AT TIMES "HATE" IS NOT IMPURE AND IN MANY CASES IT MAY SHOW A ***LACK*** OF DESIRE. WHAT WILL MAKE HATE IMPURE? DEED'S AND THOUGHT AND THAT IS WHERE WE **DIFFER** FROM "GOD".
CARNAL LOVE AND GODLY IS NOT THE SAME THING. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU EVEN MENTIONED LOVE/LUST. THAT ISN'T THE LOVE I'M TALKING ABOUT NOR HAVE I IMPLIED IT BECAUSE MY POST WAS LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC AREA. YOU CAN TAKE A BULLET FOR A STRANGER, GET RAN OVER SAVING AN OLD LADY ETC ETC ETC. YOU CAN HAVE BROTHERLY/GODLY LOVE FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN. THIS HAS ***NOTHING*** TO DO WITH LUST AND ONCE AGAIN I SEE NO RELEVANCY. THE FACT YOU WOULD EVEN TYPE "LOVE/LUST" SHOWS THAT YOU'RE THINKING FROM A CARNAL VIEW. I'M NOT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS BEYOND YET HERE AT THE SAME TIME. I UNDERSTAND GOD IS ABOVE YET HERE ON MY PLAIN. I UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS OUTSIDE OF ME YET REMAINS N ME. WHAT I, AM, TELLING THOSE WHO ARE READING IS THAT THE GOD OF THE ******BIBLE ******(NOT THE GOD OF THE QU'RAN, GODS OF THE VEDAS, GODS OF AFRIKAN RELIGIONS ETC ETC ETC) DOES INDEED *HATE*.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF GOD. YOU SEEM TO GET YOURS FROM THE VEDAS, UPANISHADS, NEW AGE PHILOSOPHY AND THE MATRIX. I DON'T. I, AM, SPEAKING ABOUT A *SPECIFIC* GOD. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE SCRIPTURES I GAVE, STUDIED THEM OR MEDITATED ON THEM YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM. IF YOU DO NOT ADHERE TO THE SCRIPTURES I DO YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM. YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF "I DON'T NEED THEM I TRANSCEND THEM" ETC ETC ETC". IF THIS IS YOUR WAY OF THINKING (IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST) YOU HAVE PROVEN MY VERY POINT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO QUOTE AND UNDERSTAND ANY SCRIPTURE (THE ONES I'M REFERRING TO) IF YOU HAVEN'T STUDIED.
SO TO PUT IT POLITELY STOP SPEAKING ON THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW.
ONCE AGAIN TO *ANYONE* READING I'M SPEAKING ABOUT A *SPECIFIC* "GOD". I AM MAKING REFERENCE TO *SPECIFIC* SCRIPTURES. I'M NOT THROWING ALL DOCTRINES AND GODS INTO A POT AND COMING WITH A MYSTERY MIX. WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT THE CHRISTIAN (IN A GENERIC SENSE) GOD/GOD OF THE BIBLE (GENERIC SENSE) DOES HAVE FEELINGS/EMOTIONS. HE IS *NOT* A "FORCE" HE IS CAPABLE OF SHOWING HIS EMOTIONS AND HAS DONE SO. THIS GOD HAS ALSO BEEN AGAINST *MANY* NATIONS AND HAS BEEN AGAINST ***ISRAEL*** ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. THIS GOD HAS APPLIED THESE HUMAN ATTRIBUTES TO HIMSELF. IF HUMANS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF SHOWING GODLY LOVE YESHUA/JESUS WAS AN IDIOT FOR TELLING US TO:
"SHOW LOVE TO ONE ANOTHER"
"LOVE THOSE WHO HATE YOU AS GOD HAS LOVED YOU"
"LOVE AS I HAVE LOVED YOU"
WE ARE CAPABLE OF THIS LOVE BUT MOST OF US DON'T SHOW IT (**INCLUDING MYSELF**.) KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE STILL *BOUND* BY DUST SO IT WILL BE HARD (NO ONE SAID IT WAS EASY) TO "TRANSCEND" OUR MINDSETS/WAYS OF THINKING AND WALK THE WAY WE SHOULD.
916 ONCE AGAIN YOU AND I HAVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF GOD. WITH THAT BEING SAID IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO AGREE ON THIS SUBJECT (REFER TO PAST THREAD.)
:HGK:
PEOPLE SAY "IF GOD IS REAL WHY DID HE LET THAT CHILD DIE" OR "IF GOD IS REAL WHY DID THAT OLD LADY GET RAPED"
WELL, HAVE YOU (NOT YOU SPECIFICALLY) EVER LOOKED AT REASONS OTHER THAN GOD? HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT JUST MAYBE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON? ALL WE SEE IS A PERSON BEING KILLED. WE THINK IT'S SAD, SHED A COUPLE OF CROCODILE TEARS AND GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS. WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE *LIMITED* AND DON'T SEE THE *ENTIRE* PICTURE.
YOU SAY GOD AND HIS LOVE IS PURE. I AGREE HOWEVER I KNOW THAT GOD IS A ***JUST*** GOD. IN BEING JUST ***JUDGEMENT*** IS DISPENSED. THE GOD I ADHERE TO (YOU AND I DON'T ADHERE TO THE SAME GOD) IS NOT A "FORCE" OR "POWER" BUT SPECIFIC. THIS GOD HAS SAID MANY TIMES I JUDGE, I, AM, I SHOW MERCY, I DO THIS ETC ETC ETC. HE DID *NOT* EXPRESS THESE THINGS BECAUSE MAN WAS TOO DUMB TO COMPREHEND THEM. YOU ARE LOOKING AT HATE FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN MYSELF. AT TIMES "HATE" IS NOT IMPURE AND IN MANY CASES IT MAY SHOW A ***LACK*** OF DESIRE. WHAT WILL MAKE HATE IMPURE? DEED'S AND THOUGHT AND THAT IS WHERE WE **DIFFER** FROM "GOD".
CARNAL LOVE AND GODLY IS NOT THE SAME THING. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU EVEN MENTIONED LOVE/LUST. THAT ISN'T THE LOVE I'M TALKING ABOUT NOR HAVE I IMPLIED IT BECAUSE MY POST WAS LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC AREA. YOU CAN TAKE A BULLET FOR A STRANGER, GET RAN OVER SAVING AN OLD LADY ETC ETC ETC. YOU CAN HAVE BROTHERLY/GODLY LOVE FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN. THIS HAS ***NOTHING*** TO DO WITH LUST AND ONCE AGAIN I SEE NO RELEVANCY. THE FACT YOU WOULD EVEN TYPE "LOVE/LUST" SHOWS THAT YOU'RE THINKING FROM A CARNAL VIEW. I'M NOT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS BEYOND YET HERE AT THE SAME TIME. I UNDERSTAND GOD IS ABOVE YET HERE ON MY PLAIN. I UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS OUTSIDE OF ME YET REMAINS N ME. WHAT I, AM, TELLING THOSE WHO ARE READING IS THAT THE GOD OF THE ******BIBLE ******(NOT THE GOD OF THE QU'RAN, GODS OF THE VEDAS, GODS OF AFRIKAN RELIGIONS ETC ETC ETC) DOES INDEED *HATE*.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF GOD. YOU SEEM TO GET YOURS FROM THE VEDAS, UPANISHADS, NEW AGE PHILOSOPHY AND THE MATRIX. I DON'T. I, AM, SPEAKING ABOUT A *SPECIFIC* GOD. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE SCRIPTURES I GAVE, STUDIED THEM OR MEDITATED ON THEM YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM. IF YOU DO NOT ADHERE TO THE SCRIPTURES I DO YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM. YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF "I DON'T NEED THEM I TRANSCEND THEM" ETC ETC ETC". IF THIS IS YOUR WAY OF THINKING (IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST) YOU HAVE PROVEN MY VERY POINT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO QUOTE AND UNDERSTAND ANY SCRIPTURE (THE ONES I'M REFERRING TO) IF YOU HAVEN'T STUDIED.
SO TO PUT IT POLITELY STOP SPEAKING ON THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW.
ONCE AGAIN TO *ANYONE* READING I'M SPEAKING ABOUT A *SPECIFIC* "GOD". I AM MAKING REFERENCE TO *SPECIFIC* SCRIPTURES. I'M NOT THROWING ALL DOCTRINES AND GODS INTO A POT AND COMING WITH A MYSTERY MIX. WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT THE CHRISTIAN (IN A GENERIC SENSE) GOD/GOD OF THE BIBLE (GENERIC SENSE) DOES HAVE FEELINGS/EMOTIONS. HE IS *NOT* A "FORCE" HE IS CAPABLE OF SHOWING HIS EMOTIONS AND HAS DONE SO. THIS GOD HAS ALSO BEEN AGAINST *MANY* NATIONS AND HAS BEEN AGAINST ***ISRAEL*** ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. THIS GOD HAS APPLIED THESE HUMAN ATTRIBUTES TO HIMSELF. IF HUMANS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF SHOWING GODLY LOVE YESHUA/JESUS WAS AN IDIOT FOR TELLING US TO:
"SHOW LOVE TO ONE ANOTHER"
"LOVE THOSE WHO HATE YOU AS GOD HAS LOVED YOU"
"LOVE AS I HAVE LOVED YOU"
WE ARE CAPABLE OF THIS LOVE BUT MOST OF US DON'T SHOW IT (**INCLUDING MYSELF**.) KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE STILL *BOUND* BY DUST SO IT WILL BE HARD (NO ONE SAID IT WAS EASY) TO "TRANSCEND" OUR MINDSETS/WAYS OF THINKING AND WALK THE WAY WE SHOULD.
916 ONCE AGAIN YOU AND I HAVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF GOD. WITH THAT BEING SAID IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO AGREE ON THIS SUBJECT (REFER TO PAST THREAD.)
:HGK:
An example of righteous and justified hate: Jesus' overthrowing of the money changing system in the temple.
One question for you H. You have stated that your intent is to aid God in bringing down Babylon.
How does this mesh with Jesuit love though? God will accomplish his needs and desires through pawns such as Judas, George Bush, etc.
Isn't it your job to love unconditionally, and not dispense judgement?
"Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"
Would God support your military mindset in this situation? Or would he advocate simply being as Christlike as possible and waiting for the end times?
One question for you H. You have stated that your intent is to aid God in bringing down Babylon.
How does this mesh with Jesuit love though? God will accomplish his needs and desires through pawns such as Judas, George Bush, etc.
Isn't it your job to love unconditionally, and not dispense judgement?
"Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"
Would God support your military mindset in this situation? Or would he advocate simply being as Christlike as possible and waiting for the end times?
^^^^GREAT QUESTIONS MAN! HEY IN ANOTHER THREAD DID YOU ASK ME ABOUT 501 ( C ) 3 CHURCHES?
"One question for you H. You have stated that your intent is to aid God in bringing down Babylon."
BELIEVE ME I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS (PHYSICALLY DESTROY AMERICA) BUT MY POSITION IS SIMPLE. GOD DOESN'T NEED ME TO HELP BRING DOWN BABYLON. AMERICA HAS ALREADY DESTROYED HERSELF. WHEN I SAY I WILL AID IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IT'S PHYSICAL DESTRUCTION. IM NOT GONNA BLOW UP CITIES (I WOULD IF I WAS IN CHARGE) OR STRAP A PIPE BOMB TO MY FACE AND SMASH IN THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING BRO?
"How does this mesh with Jesuit love though?"
DON'T TAKE THIS AS ANSWERING A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION BUT DEFINE "JESUIT LOVE". WHAT IS IT? DO YOU MEAN JESUIT EDUCATION/BELIEFS? DO EXPLAIN.
"God will accomplish his needs and desires through pawns such as Judas, George Bush, etc."
NO ARGUEMENT HERE.
"Isn't it your job to love unconditionally, and not dispense judgement?"
MY "JOB" TO LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY? NO. IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME SPIRITUALLY BUT IT ISN'T MY JOB. DISPENSE JUDGEMENT? IM NOT THE JUDGE SO I CAN'T DISPENSE JUDGEMENT. I SIMPLY WANT TO SEE CERTAIN THINGS FULFILLED.
"Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"
WELL YOU QUOTED THAT...BUT...WHY DID YOU QUOTE IT? WHEN THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE *TWO* SINS WERE BEING COMMITED BY THOSE WHO WANTED TO STONE THE WOMAN. THE FIRST ONE WAS *FAILING* TO FOLLOW THE LAW (STUDY OLD TESTAMENT LAW AND PUNISHMENT FOR THE CRIME).....I'LL LET YOU FIGURE OUT THE SECOND ONE ON YOUR OWN.
"Would God support your military mindset in this situation?"
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "MILITARY MINDSET" AND IN WHAT SITUATION? WOULD GOD SUPPORT ME IF I CHOSE TO DEFEND MYSELF? WOULD GOD SUPPORT ME BLOWING UP AMERICA IF I WERE IN CHARGE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BUT IF YOU EXPLAIN IT I WILL ANSWER IT.
"Or would he advocate simply being as Christlike as possible and waiting for the end times?"
BEING "CHRISTLIKE" DOES NOT MEAN I SHOULD BE A DOOR MAT. SHOULD I TURN THE CHEEK? 99% OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAY YES DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF BEING SLAPPED IN THE RIGHT CHEEK. WHERE I'VE BEEN WRONG IS SEEKING MY OWN VENGENCE. THATS WRONG AND I ADMIT TO BEING GUILTY OF THIS. THATS SOMETHING I MUST LEARN TO COPE WITH AND TO BE HONEST IT HAS MADE ME LOOSE MY "EDGE" IF YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN. WAITING FOR THE END TIMES? THE END IS HERE.
BED TIME FOR ME.
BE COOL MAN
:HGK:
PS MY SISTER WAS ABLE TO BEAT LYMPHOMA (CHECK SPELLING). IF SHE CAN BEAT CANCER SO CAN YOU. MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.
"One question for you H. You have stated that your intent is to aid God in bringing down Babylon."
BELIEVE ME I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS (PHYSICALLY DESTROY AMERICA) BUT MY POSITION IS SIMPLE. GOD DOESN'T NEED ME TO HELP BRING DOWN BABYLON. AMERICA HAS ALREADY DESTROYED HERSELF. WHEN I SAY I WILL AID IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IT'S PHYSICAL DESTRUCTION. IM NOT GONNA BLOW UP CITIES (I WOULD IF I WAS IN CHARGE) OR STRAP A PIPE BOMB TO MY FACE AND SMASH IN THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING BRO?
"How does this mesh with Jesuit love though?"
DON'T TAKE THIS AS ANSWERING A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION BUT DEFINE "JESUIT LOVE". WHAT IS IT? DO YOU MEAN JESUIT EDUCATION/BELIEFS? DO EXPLAIN.
"God will accomplish his needs and desires through pawns such as Judas, George Bush, etc."
NO ARGUEMENT HERE.
"Isn't it your job to love unconditionally, and not dispense judgement?"
MY "JOB" TO LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY? NO. IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME SPIRITUALLY BUT IT ISN'T MY JOB. DISPENSE JUDGEMENT? IM NOT THE JUDGE SO I CAN'T DISPENSE JUDGEMENT. I SIMPLY WANT TO SEE CERTAIN THINGS FULFILLED.
"Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"
WELL YOU QUOTED THAT...BUT...WHY DID YOU QUOTE IT? WHEN THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE *TWO* SINS WERE BEING COMMITED BY THOSE WHO WANTED TO STONE THE WOMAN. THE FIRST ONE WAS *FAILING* TO FOLLOW THE LAW (STUDY OLD TESTAMENT LAW AND PUNISHMENT FOR THE CRIME).....I'LL LET YOU FIGURE OUT THE SECOND ONE ON YOUR OWN.
"Would God support your military mindset in this situation?"
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "MILITARY MINDSET" AND IN WHAT SITUATION? WOULD GOD SUPPORT ME IF I CHOSE TO DEFEND MYSELF? WOULD GOD SUPPORT ME BLOWING UP AMERICA IF I WERE IN CHARGE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BUT IF YOU EXPLAIN IT I WILL ANSWER IT.
"Or would he advocate simply being as Christlike as possible and waiting for the end times?"
BEING "CHRISTLIKE" DOES NOT MEAN I SHOULD BE A DOOR MAT. SHOULD I TURN THE CHEEK? 99% OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAY YES DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF BEING SLAPPED IN THE RIGHT CHEEK. WHERE I'VE BEEN WRONG IS SEEKING MY OWN VENGENCE. THATS WRONG AND I ADMIT TO BEING GUILTY OF THIS. THATS SOMETHING I MUST LEARN TO COPE WITH AND TO BE HONEST IT HAS MADE ME LOOSE MY "EDGE" IF YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN. WAITING FOR THE END TIMES? THE END IS HERE.
BED TIME FOR ME.
BE COOL MAN
:HGK:
PS MY SISTER WAS ABLE TO BEAT LYMPHOMA (CHECK SPELLING). IF SHE CAN BEAT CANCER SO CAN YOU. MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.
Yea I did ask Im not up on 501c3 or definitions thereof.
Well you basically defused my question with the first paragraph. Picking the post apart line by line somewhat decontextualized it, though that is not always the case, just in this instance.
I guess the vein running through my post is nonviolence and a Christlike example. I wasn't up on how exactly you were going to support, clarify, or aid the destruction of Babylon if indeed America is the Biblical Babylon destined to fall.
Jesuit love I would define as Jesus' nonviolent example. Now there is a distinction between turning the other cheek and being a door mat.
The classic example: Someone bumps into you. They tell you to watch where you goin, hold up what you doin, look out potna etc., and you, unwilling to let your pride be hurt, get offensive/defensive back, and the situation escalates.
Turning the other cheek is saying "Alright, someone wronged me, but I'm not gonna stoop to their level, even if my pride is injured."
Being a doormat is standing there while you are being hit in the face, literally or figuratively, and failing to remove yourself from the situation, defend yourself, resolve the situation, etc.
Where the line is drawn is like you said, takin it to a personal level and doing more than what is necessary in self-preservation. It's not wrong to fight off a man trying to rob you, but it is wrong to knock him down and deal him a death blow. There comes a point when your own personal motivations turn what is right into sin.
Right on for the prayers too homie, I'm gonna do what's in my power, and what isn't I'll leave to God. By my fruits I will be judged, and I don't fear death. It's amazing the peace that has recently come over me. In a time when I should fear my life, I wake up almost everyday and learn something new.
Stupid things like seeing birds fly, watchin cars drive by, hearing my girl laugh, just the crisp cold winter air, have affected me lately. I'm just in awe at how much life and importance there is in this world. Reading the other day I came upon the great verse that "Whoever saves their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will save it."
I'm beyond stress. When I first found out I was down deep, just hating the world. Now that I'm dying, life is great. Haha. Stay up yourself man.
Well you basically defused my question with the first paragraph. Picking the post apart line by line somewhat decontextualized it, though that is not always the case, just in this instance.
I guess the vein running through my post is nonviolence and a Christlike example. I wasn't up on how exactly you were going to support, clarify, or aid the destruction of Babylon if indeed America is the Biblical Babylon destined to fall.
Jesuit love I would define as Jesus' nonviolent example. Now there is a distinction between turning the other cheek and being a door mat.
The classic example: Someone bumps into you. They tell you to watch where you goin, hold up what you doin, look out potna etc., and you, unwilling to let your pride be hurt, get offensive/defensive back, and the situation escalates.
Turning the other cheek is saying "Alright, someone wronged me, but I'm not gonna stoop to their level, even if my pride is injured."
Being a doormat is standing there while you are being hit in the face, literally or figuratively, and failing to remove yourself from the situation, defend yourself, resolve the situation, etc.
Where the line is drawn is like you said, takin it to a personal level and doing more than what is necessary in self-preservation. It's not wrong to fight off a man trying to rob you, but it is wrong to knock him down and deal him a death blow. There comes a point when your own personal motivations turn what is right into sin.
Right on for the prayers too homie, I'm gonna do what's in my power, and what isn't I'll leave to God. By my fruits I will be judged, and I don't fear death. It's amazing the peace that has recently come over me. In a time when I should fear my life, I wake up almost everyday and learn something new.
Stupid things like seeing birds fly, watchin cars drive by, hearing my girl laugh, just the crisp cold winter air, have affected me lately. I'm just in awe at how much life and importance there is in this world. Reading the other day I came upon the great verse that "Whoever saves their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will save it."
I'm beyond stress. When I first found out I was down deep, just hating the world. Now that I'm dying, life is great. Haha. Stay up yourself man.
And I was just about to ask you to define "hate" for me. The way I see it... God will destroy this place out of His Pure Love, not out of hate. Now if you equate His "hate" to His Love, then I understand. I simply do not use the term hate because of what it represents. God's Love is PURE. It is not on the mixed level of this love/hate duality that we experience here in this world of miseries.
I agree.
Yes, and His judgement is out of His purest LOVE. And like always, it depends on how you define "hate" when you use the term in these topics. I consider hate as the "evil" opposite to "good" on a material level. And I also understand that no good here is pure. Thus I understand God's eternal trait as PURE LOVE. It is transcendental to love/hate duality. I hope you get what I am trying to say...
I was just making a point that love on a material level is LUST. I was trying to further exemplify the fact that God is above this love/hate, good/evil dualities. I am not thinking from a carnal view.
Then define "hate", please.
If you use terms such as "hate" in the way they are commonly used... they will be interpreted as such. Now, if you have a philosophy on this "hate" that God portrays, then I am all ears...
HERESY said:
SO TO PUT IT POLITELY STOP SPEAKING ON THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW.
Who is it that does not know?
I have already explained, in general, love/hate and GOD's Pure Transcendental LOVE. If this "hate" you speak of attributed to God is the same as the dualistic love/hate we know here, then I will say that you don't know what you are talking about.
I agree.
But, truth is objective... we SHOULD be able to understand each other and that is why I am asking you to describe this God-hate to me...