Iran's secret plan for summer offensive to force US out of Iraq

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Iran's secret plan for summer offensive to force US out of Iraq

Iran is secretly forging ties with al-Qaida elements and Sunni Arab militias in Iraq in preparation for a summer showdown with coalition forces intended to tip a wavering US Congress into voting for full military withdrawal, US officials say.

"Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq and it's a very dangerous course for them to be following. They are already committing daily acts of war against US and British forces," a senior US official in Baghdad warned. "They [Iran] are behind a lot of high-profile attacks meant to undermine US will and British will, such as the rocket attacks on Basra palace and the Green Zone [in Baghdad]. The attacks are directed by the Revolutionary Guard who are connected right to the top [of the Iranian government]."

The official said US commanders were bracing for a nationwide, Iranian-orchestrated summer offensive, linking al-Qaida and Sunni insurgents to Tehran's Shia militia allies, that Iran hoped would trigger a political mutiny in Washington and a US retreat. "We expect that al-Qaida and Iran will both attempt to increase the propaganda and increase the violence prior to Petraeus's report in September [when the US commander General David Petraeus will report to Congress on President George Bush's controversial, six-month security "surge" of 30,000 troop reinforcements]," the official said.

"Certainly it [the violence] is going to pick up from their side. There is significant latent capability in Iraq, especially Iranian-sponsored capability. They can turn it up whenever they want. You can see that from the pre-positioning that's been going on and the huge stockpiles of Iranian weapons that we've turned up in the last couple of months. The relationships between Iran and groups like al-Qaida are very fluid," the official said.

"It often comes down to individuals, and people constantly move around. For instance, the Sunni Arab so-called resistance groups use Salafi jihadist ideology for their own purposes. But the whole Iran- al-Qaida linkup is very sinister."

Iran has maintained close links to Iraq's Shia political parties and militias but has previously eschewed collaboration with al-Qaida and Sunni insurgents.
US officials now say they have firm evidence that Tehran has switched tack as it senses a chance of victory in Iraq. In a parallel development, they say they also have proof that Iran has reversed its previous policy in Afghanistan and is now supporting and supplying the Taliban's campaign against US, British and other Nato forces.

Tehran's strategy to discredit the US surge and foment a decisive congressional revolt against Mr Bush is national in scope and not confined to the Shia south, its traditional sphere of influence, the senior official in Baghdad said. It included stepped-up coordination with Shia militias such as Moqtada al-Sadr's Jaish al-Mahdi as well as Syrian-backed Sunni Arab groups and al-Qaida in Mesopotamia, he added. Iran was also expanding contacts across the board with paramilitary forces and political groups, including Kurdish parties such as the PUK, a US ally.

"Their strategy takes into account all these various parties. Iran is playing all these different factions to maximise its future control and maximise US and British difficulties. Their co-conspirator is Syria which is allowing the takfirists [fundamentalist Salafi jihadis] to come across the border," the official said.
Any US decision to retaliate against Iran on its own territory could be taken only at the highest political level in Washington, the official said. But he indicated that American patience was wearing thin.

Warning that the US was "absolutely determined" to hit back hard wherever it was challenged by Iranian proxies or agents inside Iraq, he cited the case of five alleged members of the Revolutionary Guard's al-Quds force detained in Irbil in January. Despite strenuous protests from Tehran, which claims the men are diplomats, they have still not been released.

"Tehran is behaving like a racecourse gambler. They're betting on all the horses in the race, even on people they fundamentally don't trust," a senior administration official in Washington said. "They don't know what the outcome will be in Iraq. So they're hedging their bets."

The administration official also claimed that notwithstanding recent US and British overtures, Syria was still collaborating closely with Iran's strategy in Iraq.

"80% to 90%" of the foreign jihadis entering Iraq were doing so from Syrian territory, he said.

Despite recent diplomatic contacts, and an agreement to hold bilateral talks at ambassadorial level in Baghdad next week, US officials say there has been no let-up in hostile Iranian activities, including continuing support for violence, weapons smuggling and training.

"Iran is perpetuating the cycle of sectarian violence through support for extra-judicial killing and murder cells. They bring Iraqi militia members and insurgent groups into Iran for training and then help infiltrate them back into the country. We have plenty of evidence from a variety of sources. There's no argument about that. That's just a fact," the senior official in Baghdad said.

In trying to force an American retreat, Iran's hardline leadership also hoped to bring about a humiliating political and diplomatic defeat for the US that would reduce Washington's regional influence while increasing Tehran's own.
But if Iran succeeded in "prematurely" driving US and British forces out of Iraq, the likely result would be a "colossal humanitarian disaster" and possible regional war drawing in the Sunni Arab Gulf states, Syria and Turkey, he said.

Despite such concerns, or because of them, the US welcomed the chance to talk to Iran, the senior administration official said. "Our agenda starts with force protection in Iraq," he said. But there were many other Iraq-related issues to be discussed. Recent pressure had shown that Iran's behaviour could be modified, the official claimed: "Last winter they were literally getting away with murder."

But tougher action by security forces in Iraq against Iranian agents and networks, the dispatch of an additional aircraft carrier group to the Gulf and UN security council resolutions imposing sanctions had given Tehran pause, he said.

Washington analysts and commentators predict that Gen Petraeus's report to the White House and Congress in early September will be a pivotal moment in the history of the four-and-a-half-year war - and a decision to begin a troop drawdown or continue with the surge policy will hinge on the outcome. Most Democrats and many Republicans in Congress believe Iraq is in the grip of a civil war and that there is little that a continuing military presence can achieve. "Political will has already failed. It's over," a former Bush administration official said.

A senior adviser to Gen Petraeus reported this month that the surge had reduced violence, especially sectarian killings, in the Baghdad area and Sunni-dominated Anbar province. But the adviser admitted that much of the trouble had merely moved elsewhere, "resulting in spikes of activity in Diyala [to the north] and some areas to the south of the capital". "Overall violence is at about the same level [as when the surge began in February]."

Iranian officials flatly deny US and British allegations of involvement in internal violence in Iraq or in attacks on coalition forces. Interviewed in Tehran recently, Mohammad Reza Bagheri, deputy foreign minister for Arab affairs with primary responsibility for Iran's policy in Iraq, said: "We believe it would be to the benefit of both the occupiers and the Iraqi people that they [the coalition forces] withdraw immediately."
 
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Doesn't surprise me... We're not wanted over there any way. We have no strategy. Every time I watch the tales about HEROS IN IRAQ its like 5 soldiers vs a whole building of insurgents. All these rounds are let off everyone dies but one person and then they end up blowing up the building.

What was the point of wasting that much ammo if they could've phoned in for an air strike. They leave themselves open. No disrespect to anyone having fam serve in the war, but this is one where we don't have control
 

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Good. Someone's gotta get it through to people that the US should not be in/should have never been in Iraq (or any of those countries for that matter, unless they ask).
 
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Bush just wanted to avenge his father's effort for the first Gulf War.

The whole terror thing has been concocted and woven into everything that doesn't follow the Bush Agenda.

9/11 Rest their souls but using them as a scapegoat to justify US wars is all together wrong.
 

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ColdBlooded said:
^^^^ Traitor. Doesn’t support the troops. ^^^^

I don't support the US gov't or what the troops are doing. I have no personal issues with the troops, even if I think they are fucking morons for signing away their lives. They are still people. But the "people" in gov't aren't real people, they're scum sucking whores who manipulate anything they can..fuck it, i don't wanna start typing a ton of shit...

if i had an American flag that wasn't my grandfather's (he passed away, so i got a flag cause he was in ww1), i'd burn it. but it's my grandfathers so there's no way i would. i should just go buy a flag and burn it in the middle of the street before i graduate...lol...
 
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Not sarcasm. I didn't know if you were serious or not. You're new so you really don't know about me so I guess it's legit.

No I don't think we should have started a war with Iraq, let alone for the reasons given. I don’t support the Afghan war either.

I do believe in cleaning up after yourself though. The U.S. has made some serious messes and they need to do something to right their wrongs. Droppin bombs, kicking in doors, and killing women and children does not count as righting your wrongs. Neither does widening the war to include Iran.
 
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Not sarcasm. I didn't know if you were serious or not. You're new so you really don't know about me so I guess it's legit.

No I don't think we should have started a war with Iraq, let alone for the reasons given. I don’t support the Afghan war either.

I do believe in cleaning up after yourself though. The U.S. has made some serious messes and they need to do something to right their wrongs. Droppin bombs, kicking in doors, and killing women and children does not count as righting your wrongs. Neither does widening the war to include Iran.
thanks.

How do you clean up after yourself in this mess though? So most Americans agree that we were lied to and the intelligence was either altered or misread for the reason to occupy IRAQ? But the president has said by leaving now it will turn into a safe haven for terrorists? It's like we fucked up, but we'll be fucking up more if we leave, and your a traitor to the troops if you don't disagree is what cheney and bush seem to push.
 

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How do you clean up? You give them billions of dollars to fix shit and have US contractors do it.

Lots of times after war the US has given aid to places, and other countries have been forced to do so, as well as the others that just want to help...

The US can't really right any wrongs or go back to the way things were...shit is way too heated now and the US is not popular to say the least....it'll take a lot of funds to rebuild over there, and then try to get them to like the US....which ain't gonna happen.

By the way, think about how the word TERRORIST is used....someone invades your country and kills your people....that's a terrorist...meaning...the US is one big ass terrorist nation, and don't tell me all them patriotic fuckers aren't like the people who support militias in Iraq....it's ALL the same, just different places and perceptions....

"Terrorist" was a very good public relations term that they applied to violent people OUTSIDE the US (non-US citizens)....I'd say the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, etc are ALL terrorist organizations. Just gotta look at it from a non-US point of view and realize that having masses of people with weapons coming into your country to "help" you but end up killing tons of people isn't a good thing. I don't really want people to die cause then the US will get all huffy puffy and want to kill more Iraqi's etc, but if US troops don't die, then there's no real reason for us to leave...in the minds of most dumb fuck Americans.
 
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How do you clean up after yourself in this mess though?
Ending combat operations, pulling out troops, rebuilding infrastructure and civil society, getting the schools and hospitals into better condition than when we invaded, being concerned with helping the Iraqis develop an economy that isn’t totally reliant on oil income, etc, etc, etc.

But no one that is in a position of power (or will be) in this country has any intrest in doing any of that. So the best that can happen is to get our people out of there as fast as possible to decrease the amount of them that die.

So most Americans agree that we were lied to and the intelligence was either altered or misread for the reason to occupy IRAQ?
Really? I don’t know the polls or whatever, but I would assume most Americans really don’t know much about it. They may not like how many soldiers are dying right now, but that’s because the American public loves a good war, they just don’t like to lose. Doesn’t matter, why one happens, but the end result had better be victory.

But the president has said by leaving now it will turn into a safe haven for terrorists?
It will. Part of cleaning up your mess is to make sure that doesn’t happen. Eliminating the root causes of terrorism is essential. What we’re doing now is dumping water and fertilizer on the weed and expecting it not to grow.