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MVP to me means a player who makes the team better, carries the team, is a team leader, displays professionalism on and off the court.
its gonna be close this year, but Lebron got this. without lebron, his team would sink.
i agree that the team would sink without lebron, but one thing this article points out that most people dont pay attention to is the defense. theres no number for defense except steals/forced turnovers but to me, the defense is what puts kobe ahead. but if lebron got mvp, i doubt neone would fight against that.
 

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ITS AMAZING TO ME THE AMOUNT OF HATE KOBE RECIEVES FROM THE MEDIA....I MEAN THAT IS THE REASON HE DONT HAVE A MVP ALREADY.....I MEAN HE IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE...AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST KNOCKS ON HIM WAS THAT HE DIDNT MAKE ANY OF HIS TEAMMATES BETTER BUT I THINK THAT HAS CHANGED THIS SEASON.....
 
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ITS AMAZING TO ME THE AMOUNT OF HATE KOBE RECIEVES FROM THE MEDIA....I MEAN THAT IS THE REASON HE DONT HAVE A MVP ALREADY.....I MEAN HE IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE...AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST KNOCKS ON HIM WAS THAT HE DIDNT MAKE ANY OF HIS TEAMMATES BETTER BUT I THINK THAT HAS CHANGED THIS SEASON.....
yea i think everybody will agree that between kobe and lebron - kobe got more burdens with the media. and if neone is getting negativity publicity/popularity its kobe
 

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YEA I HATE THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AWARDS...ARE JUDGED ON BY THE MEDIA....AND SO THAT THEY CAN USE THERE PERSONAL BEEFS AND BELIEFS AGAINST DUDES LIKE BONDS , KOBE , AND WHOEVER ELSE THEY DONT LIKE....I MEAN I DONT KNOW A SOLUTION , LIKE I DONT THINK FANS SHOULD VOTE ON IT...BUT I DONT THINK IT SHOULD BE ALL THE MEDIA....
 

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Kobe is long overdue for the MVP. He should have been won it... Offensively he draws so much attention because of his ability to score and then on the defensive end he guards the opponents best player (not centers or power forwads).

He'll get it and his team won't get swept out of the NBA Finals should they make it.
 

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FUCK ALL THIS TALK, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ANYMORE TALK OR DISCUSSIONS TO THIS, CZAR KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND YOUR EYES OPEN! ITS A WRAP!!!!

KOBE MVP THIS YEAR! GOT U!!

Shut up mark!! I already said Kobe has the slight edge over LeBron for MVP!! Got Em!!

IM STARTING TO THINK CZAR LOVES LEBRON MORE THEN MISSFEDEX LOVES BRANDON ROY. COME ON MAYNE, U GETTIN ON OTHER FOLKS ABOUT BEING BIASED BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LEBRON, YOUR THE SAME WAY. U BE TRYING TO MAKE HIM SOUND LIKE GOD. EVEN WHEN OUR TEAM TRADED, JUST CUZ LEBRON, U WANTED THE OTHER TEAM TO DO BETTER. WUT IS THAT? ONLY TEAM I WANT BETTER OUT OF A TRADE IS MY OWN. I LIKE LEBRON BUT NO, KOBE HAS HIM

Dam my fellow bulls fan is comin at me!! Since u like the bulls I will give u a pass but I will breakdown the difference from me & msfed......msfed says outlandish shit about roy that aint remotely tru. Like he is better than BD, he is a top 20 player in the NBA etc....Dude is a good up and comin player thats it. On the other habd the shit I say about LeBrin is tru! U can argue LeBron as the best player! U can argue he is the most important player to a team! U can argue he is the MVP!! U can argue he is the best scorer etc.. Bone of that shit is outlandish feel me?? Dont ever compare me to msfed that ws a terrible insult!! lol Got Em!!





Naaa I am not saying anything silly. This was LeBron's chance to show the world how deep he really is. In 1991 Lakers were a superior team but Jordan's Bulls didn't let that factor in when they met in the NBA Finals. The Lakers won the first game and then the Bulls took the next 4 in a row. I am saying that LeBron let folks down by letting his Cavs get swept. He didn't let them lose against the Pistons pouring in over 50 points in that last game soaring through the air dunking on fools. Then he gets to the finals and then becomes scared and passive. That had to be the most boring finals I've ever seen. He's shown he has the ability to take over games, why not do it on the biggest stage? And they beat San Antonio twice during the regular season.... Choke artist!! Now he's asking for help? Are you serious? There's no way Kobe's team would get swept if his squad ever made it to the NBA Finals.

And I think it's a two man race between Kobe and Paul...with Kobe getting the nod barely.

Dog u think what u want, I highly disagree with u on this!! U cant compare that bulls/lakers finals to last years finals!! Everyone knew cleveland would either get swept or maybe win 1 games!! The bulls were favored to win that finals against the lakers and they had homecourt!! U trippin bigtime on that one dog!! But hey if thats what i think thats on u!! Got Em!!


Yeah I chucked at that too. Kobe and Lebron play different positions so comparing stats that are relative to a positiion is biased. I mean would you fault Kobe for getting less rebounds/blocks then Tim Duncan?

Kobe is the best scorer in NBA history and he plays better defense then King James, at this point there is no question Kobe is better than Lebron and should be MVP over Lebron. MVP takes into consideration the players personal numbers AND his team's success. The worst team in the league is never gonna have the MVP, so yes teams wins are an important part to being an MVP.

Hahahahahahahahahahah @ Kobe is the greatest score in NBA history!!! Thats the worst comment Ive ever heard!!! get real homeboy!!! Got Em!!
 
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YEA I HATE THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AWARDS...ARE JUDGED ON BY THE MEDIA....AND SO THAT THEY CAN USE THERE PERSONAL BEEFS AND BELIEFS AGAINST DUDES LIKE BONDS , KOBE , AND WHOEVER ELSE THEY DONT LIKE....I MEAN I DONT KNOW A SOLUTION , LIKE I DONT THINK FANS SHOULD VOTE ON IT...BUT I DONT THINK IT SHOULD BE ALL THE MEDIA....
i guarantee tho theres the people with connects making the outcomes the way they want. especially the higher ups who may or may not want certain people to win awards and get honored. but i mean, the way it is now- its just our world is becoming much more media concentrated (internet,tv,news) so people cant escape that effect of media on them. but theres soem hosts on shows like espn where they jsut obviously got a bias for/against certain guys
 

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Hahahahahahahahahahah @ Kobe is the greatest score in NBA history!!! Thats the worst comment Ive ever heard!!! get real homeboy!!! Got Em!!
How can it be the worst comment you ever heard when there's only one player that has scored more points than Kobe in a single game? Just like you argue LeBron is the best player in the NBA, anyone could argue that Kobe is the greatest scorer in the NBA. He's already proven that by scoring 81 points and then scoring 62 against Dallas (after only 3 quarters).
 

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Tone me and u just disagree all around on this discussion homie! Just leave it at that!! I usually dont get into these things anumore cause its silly, but the greatest scorer ever is the greatest player ever.....M. Jordan!! There aint no one close, not even arguable!! if u disagree again thats u!! I wont argue why Jordan is the greatest period cause its plain dumb if people disagree!! Got Em!!
 

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I THINK KOBE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SCORERS IN LIKE THE MODERN NBA....WHAT WILT WAS DOING WAS ON ANOTHER PLANET BUT THAT WAS A DIFFERENT NBA.........
 
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How can it be the worst comment you ever heard when there's only one player that has scored more points than Kobe in a single game? Just like you argue LeBron is the best player in the NBA, anyone could argue that Kobe is the greatest scorer in the NBA. He's already proven that by scoring 81 points and then scoring 62 against Dallas (after only 3 quarters).

Exaclty. As far as I am concernced the discussion of the best scorer in the NBA history is between Kobe and Jordan. Like Kos said, Wilt played in an entirely different NBA.

There are a lot of sports writers that would argue today that Kobe is the best scorer in history because of his superiority in scoring from anywhere on the court and his ability to put up ridiculous numbers in todays NBA when he was the only major threat on his team.

In 10 years when Kobe is 38 and thinking about retiring, we will probably be arguing who is the best scorer in NBA history Kobe or Lebron and Jordan will be 3rd by then.
 

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Tone me and u just disagree all around on this discussion homie! Just leave it at that!! I usually dont get into these things anumore cause its silly, but the greatest scorer ever is the greatest player ever.....M. Jordan!! There aint no one close, not even arguable!! if u disagree again thats u!! I wont argue why Jordan is the greatest period cause its plain dumb if people disagree!! Got Em!!
I agree that Jordan is the greatest "player" ever but it's arguable for Kobe as well. It can go either way if you ask me... Kobe does the samething as Jordan does (even though Kobe has more range on his jump shot). They both hit clutch shots and both can score at will. Jordan had the quickness but Kobe is stronger. Both are deep and can be mentioned as the greatest player ever. You can disagree with that all you want... and LeBron won't belong in this discussion until he wins a ring and don't become so passive when his team needs him most.
 
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Until Lebron brings a Championship to his team, there is no comparison. And about the age, Kobe was 21 when he won his first ring with the Lakers.


Stats don't mean shit unless you're able to bring home the bacon, and deliver a Championship. Look at Karl Malone & John Stockton.
 
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Nice thread title you wrote there!! Good thing you wrote "(NBA)"!! Or I would have thought the article was about the city in Japan!! Or their baseball team the Kobe Orix Buffalloes!! Or the kind of Beef!! Step your thinking game up mayne!! Lol!! Log off the siccness sometime and get some fresh air!!! Got em!!!
 
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Come on tony u know u coo peeps but man u sayin some silly shit here!! What u mean let?? In the NBA u dont let teams do nuthin! The Spurs are far more superior team and the fact that LeBron got that team to the finals says volumes!! Dude is like 23 years old and look where he's at!! As far as MVP's go its a 2 man race and its close between Kobe & LeBron!! Got Em!!

Before you get all defensive ill let you know I just want to debate. He didnt let them sweep the cavs like you said, but he couldnt do anything about it.

And I dont think it speeks volumes to make it to the NBA finals when your coming from the east especcially last year. Sure it was a great acheivment but thats not saying much.

Kobe has been the best player in the league throughout the last three years and now that hes not shooting as much and hes winning because he finnally has some players this guy thinks he isnt most valuable to his team. I think thats bullshit.

It doesnt even matter though id rather be a CHAMP than a MVP. This year looks like Kobe can possibly be both.