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Sep 11, 2005
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i hella need some help on how to make a RnB type of beat....something hella slow....im fuckin with FL's so for you guys that know how to make em wet usin FL's help me out then....i got my kick down an my clap....the beats at like 72 rite now also...help me out!
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Wow... You can't just tell someone how to compose music. If you don't have it, you don't have it. All I can say is find a song similar to what you're looking for an use it as a blueprint.

Good luck.
 

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I don't know have you ever made a beat before? Make a nice drum ensemble throw in a little this a little that until you got something tight, thats what I do.
 
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What style are you after? Any artists come to mind?


I make mostly westcoast hiphop style beats, but usually my beats end up having somewhat of an RnB-ish vibe or atleast have some RnB elements to it. Lots of lead synth usage, piano n chords, strings, brassy sounding instruments... Arpeggio style melodies. Try a tempo around 60. 70 might be a bit too fast. Try to create a sense of atmoshphere in your song like a live acoustic jazz sound, I think that's crucial for RnB, reverb helps in that, but don't over do it. Percussion wise you might also want to use sounds like shakers, claps, rim shots, and have a nice reverb tail on your snare/clap/rimshot hits to help soften it up a bit if it needs to be and to help give that atmospherical sound.
 
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Sick Wid It said:
Wow... You can't just tell someone how to compose music. If you don't have it, you don't have it. All I can say is find a song similar to what you're looking for an use it as a blueprint.

Good luck.


whoooooooooooaaaa......all ima say is yes i can make beats...but i dont usually fuck with tempos at 70 something....you guys want me to put up wat i got so far??? i mean im missing hella keys an shit but i swear i cant come up with nothing to do slow shit......i dont know i just get a block or something an just get all locked up in my head....
 
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BOOBOO619 said:
What style are you after? Any artists come to mind?


I make mostly westcoast hiphop style beats, but usually my beats end up having somewhat of an RnB-ish vibe or atleast have some RnB elements to it. Lots of lead synth usage, piano n chords, strings, brassy sounding instruments... Arpeggio style melodies. Try a tempo around 60. 70 might be a bit too fast. Try to create a sense of atmoshphere in your song like a live acoustic jazz sound, I think that's crucial for RnB, reverb helps in that, but don't over do it. Percussion wise you might also want to use sounds like shakers, claps, rim shots, and have a nice reverb tail on your snare/clap/rimshot hits to help soften it up a bit if it needs to be and to help give that atmospherical sound.

good lookin out!!! an to everybody else who helped out
 
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yeh man it's pretty empty right now. You need some more background shit. chimes, pads, fx. etc. more percussion maybe. There's no real formula for a hot track, it's just whatever comes out hot. That's just what I might do.
As far as echo and reverb, I think there's some FX inserts that will work on FL, I've seen it done, I think you have to open up the mixer and insert it on the track
 
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good lookin out bro^^^^

im tellin you i just dont know how to make em, its like i think of what i want but even in my head i cant get it.....ill keep at it but im sure its gonna sound empty....
 
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good lookin out heresy, i didnt even see the pan, i got basic computer speakers so i really cant tell.....an no to almost all the questions you asked.....im tellin you i just dont feel the same about RnB then i do about the other shit i make.....its like i can create something that i like to listen to in the car, i hardly ever listen to RnB so i really don tknow where to start...
 

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I like making nu-metal/metal rap beats first. Next in line are murderous/scary type beats. Third is funk type beats. I don't really like to make club music or club beats because I don't listen to that type of music, but I can if I needed to. However, I DESPISE r&b which is probably why I've only made like 2 or 3 r&b beats in my life. My point is if you aren't an all around composer find your niche and stick with it. Do you see electronic and trance composers making mob music? Hell no.

However, I suggest you go listen to some old school r&b (50's-70's) and listen to what they were doing instead of this pop flop - mink coat wearing - pink sweater wearing - bull ass shit being pumped through the radio 24-7.

Just my 2....
 

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BB King, Marvin Gaye, Earth, Wind and Fire, Brothers Johnson, George Clinton (and anything else under the p-funk banner like sly, fred wesley, p-funk all stars etc), James Brown, Temptations, Gladys Knight, Four Tops, The Gap Band, Smokey Robinson, Confunkshun, Stevie Wonder, Rick James etc. All of these are Funk, R&B and Soul.

Listen to Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. In fact, listen to the majority of acts out of Minneapolis (The Time, Prince etc.) Listen to the Jackson 5 (when mike was a little kid) and listen to Teddy Riley.

If you can't draw something from the list above I don't know what to tell you because everyone listed has gold and platinum credits. Most of all study the arrangement of the songs. These people rarely had the same damn loop playing over and over through out the song. You had chord progressions, breakdowns, bridges and even changeups during the last 4 or 2 bars of the main verses. The sounds used haven't changed much. Synths, strings, clavs, guitars, bass, percussion, pads, keyboards (pianos both acoustic and electric, organs, keyboards) brass, wind inststruments etc. The same sounds they are using you can use, yeah its going to sound different depending on what you play and how you play it, but thats the beauty of it.

Also, if you have the chance pick up a chord book with emphasis on Blues Chords. Different styles of music generally use different progressions and chords (like jazz for example) so go ahead and pick up some books too.

Be cool.
 
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Hey if your using FL Studio which is a VST host. I really suggest getting a hold of the "Arturia Minimoog V" & "GForce Minimonsta" VSTi synth plugins. You can get some really nice leads, basses, pads,... out of both these synths which can be perfect for creating RnB or just hiphop in general. If you know about the legendary Moog synths, well these are emulations. I personally love the sounds they can create.