Shyt they don't even need that,. I use to have a program., it was a hackers program that someone would send you and you try and open it,. and nothing would happen., that you could tell anyway., the program acts like trojan horse., giving total access to your computer. They could @ a push of a button open your CD Drive, print stuff from your computer, open programs,... and the was this part of it that when you wanted to start it., kept track of all the keystrokes. That program was tight,. i should see if i can get a hold of that again.