IF CHE WAS ALIVE TODAY

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He would be too busy counting the money from selling t-shirts to hippies to say much of anything. That or he'd die of an irony overdose after he realized his image is one of the most commercialized human portraits in the world.

Seriously though, Che was a dumbass. He bought into an ideology so much that he blinded himself to the realities of human nature. I read one of his biographies a number of years back. The story of his life starts out cool, but by the time I got to the last quarter of the book I wanted to say "wake the fuck up Che". He was too die hard with his communism, and he did indeed die hard.
 
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Dang, you got me there. Touché. Haha! Get it Tou-Ché. Notice how the underlined part is almost like the topic of this thread? Oh never mind.
 
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The Days many communists have waited for is coming real soon...Communism will take over it's not a Theory anymore, I believe with all my heart it'll be a fact....
Good luck with that. It's worked out so well in the past.

Why is it so hard for communists to understand that humans are too greedy to make it work? Communism does look good on paper, but once you throw humans in the mix it's bound to fail.
 
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Good luck with that. It's worked out so well in the past.

Why is it so hard for communists to understand that humans are too greedy to make it work? Communism does look good on paper, but once you throw humans in the mix it's bound to fail.
They'll take it By Force...Believe me, Nuclear Weapons 'aint' nothin new to the Russians Bro...They'll come like a swarm of Bees...and the US will be left in ruins...Just remember Folks I said Keep your eyes on Russia
 
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Good luck with that. It's worked out so well in the past.

Why is it so hard for communists to understand that humans are too greedy to make it work? Communism does look good on paper, but once you throw humans in the mix it's bound to fail.
Humans growing up in a Capitalist society become greedy, but it's not their nature. It's something they become through their environment. It would take a long time, but changing the environment around humans from capitalistic to a more communal environment would eventually change "human nature"...
 
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Humans growing up in a Capitalist society become greedy, but it's not their nature. It's something they become through their environment. It would take a long time, but changing the environment around humans from capitalistic to a more communal environment would eventually change "human nature"...
LOL Hermano, I'm sorry that's completely wrong...the World is going insane there is totally no hope for this world or this society, or for HUMANS....Humans have become Television Raised, they act like Animals sad to say, no environmental change is going to do anything to help "human nature" LOL...sorry no to diss you or anything...
 
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LOL Hermano, I'm sorry that's completely wrong...the World is going insane there is totally no hope for this world or this society, or for HUMANS....Humans have become Television Raised, they act like Animals sad to say, no environmental change is going to do anything to help "human nature" LOL...sorry no to diss you or anything...
I'm not offended man.

I still believe things could change, though it'll probably take something tragic. I've seen people w/ my own eyes living in communities that care about everyone in the community and aren't driven by greed whatsoever! It's not impossible...
 
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Humans growing up in a Capitalist society become greedy, but it's not their nature. It's something they become through their environment. It would take a long time, but changing the environment around humans from capitalistic to a more communal environment would eventually change "human nature"...
Well, changing the environment has nothing to do with nature... environment is nurture. Are you saying that by changing the nurture (the way people think)...it will lead to changing nature (genetic coding)?

Maybe humans take to things like capitalism so easy...BECAUSE we are greedy.
 
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He's saying capitalistic style greed isn't natural - not genetically predisposed to that type of behavior. Rather it is a trait that is learned and capitalism has further nurtured it to the point people say "Ehh, it's just human nature to be greedy fucks". By changing the societal conditions it can be de-nurtured and un-learned.
 
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Well, changing the environment has nothing to do with nature... environment is nurture. Are you saying that by changing the nurture (the way people think)...it will lead to changing nature (genetic coding)?

Maybe humans take to things like capitalism so easy...BECAUSE we are greedy.
I am saying that things like genetic coding are affected by nurture as much as, if not more than nature. I am saying that if the nurturing is changed, it will change genetic coding. I have no scientific evidence for this, but it is what I truly believe from everything that I've seen and experienced in my own life.

He's saying capitalistic style greed isn't natural - not genetically predisposed to that type of behavior. Rather it is a trait that is learned and has capitalism has further nurtured it. By changing the societal conditions it can be de-nurtured and un-learned.
Yes!
 
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He's saying capitalistic style greed isn't natural - not genetically predisposed to that type of behavior. Rather it is a trait that is learned and has capitalism has further nurtured it. By changing the societal conditions it can be de-nurtured and un-learned.
I understand that...but I am saying that maybe we are. Maybe capitalism only brings forth greed that is genetically coded within us. Everything we do, technically, is for self.
 
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I understand that...but I am saying that maybe we are. Maybe capitalism only brings forth greed that is genetically coded within us. Everything we do, technically, is for self.
I don't believe that it is genetically coded, I believe it is learned behavior fed to the people from all over the fuckin place and on so many levels, both consciously and subconsciously.

The only reason that "everything we do is for self" is because that's what we learn from schools, tv, radio, from our parents who learned it from their parents etc.,

I believe that all it takes is a conscious effort by the masses to realize that the strategy of "everyone for themselves" is a strategy that divides the working people and allows exploitation by those who control the means of production. If people realized that by changing our mentalities to a more communal pattern of thinking would not allow us to be exploited as easily, I think they could change. When you think about how deep it is and get that point across to the majority, that's when a big change can happen. And it would be a nurture change, but a nature change as well.

or conditions create consciousness or Life is not determined by consciousness but consciousness by life.
Yes!