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Machines built by computer giant IBM helped the Nazi regime commit mass murder more efficiently, Gypsy groups have alleged.

A Swiss court has cleared the way for a lawsuit against the firm, asking for compensation for its wartime role.

IBM had an office in Geneva during the war, which the lawsuit alleges was used for trading with the Nazis.

The firm insists that it had no role in the Holocaust, and that its German unit was taken over before the war.

This was how IBM punch-card machines came to be used by the Holocaust bureaucracy, the company says.

Call for compensation

The case is one of many lawsuits launched by groups representing Jewish, Gypsy and other victims of the Holocaust.

Most actions so far have been based in the US, and have targeted German companies such as DaimlerChrysler, Volkswagen and Siemens, which can be shown to have profited from Nazi-era slave labour.

Some German companies have contributed to funds created to compensate victims and their families.

The IBM case could be more difficult, since the plaintiffs will have to demonstrate some knowledge on the part of the US firm that its machines were being put to immoral use.

IBM has, however, already paid into a German Government-led Holocaust fund.

A US lawsuit against the company was dropped in 2001.
 
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TOKZTLI said:
Terrorists are using computers now to plan attacks, should we sue the current computer makers and software sellers too?
this is a feeble argument. If Microsoft made software specifically for terroist attacks then, yes they would be held acountable. However Microsoft has not nor has any other software company.
 
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What sounds weak to me is logic of the lawsuit. Nazi's took over IBM's facilities, and used punch-card machines IBM had built to clock in and out of work. Why should IBM be liable for that, shows some people are only in it for the money, IMO.

Of couse Microsoft is not going to be held liable if a terrorist decides to use Microsoft Outlook to email an order to deploy a bomb to another terrorist. If they were, I would be against that too.
 
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Wait, who said anything about Nazi's taking over the factories? I'm in the dark about that. If you watch the short video I posted, and from what I gathered on other articles, IBM was based here in the U.S. doing business with the Nazi's (along with other US companies and banks).
 
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IBM had an office in Geneva during the war, which the lawsuit alleges was used for trading with the Nazis.

The firm insists that it had no role in the Holocaust, and that its German unit was taken over before the war.
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You should peep that short video if you haven't already, or check out this book

It is in the latter camp that we find Edwin Black, author of the Pulitzer Prize-nominated international bestseller IBM and the Holocaust. The book, which documents IBM’s direct links to Hilter and his so-called ‘Final Solution’ by providing the Third Reich with census machines and punch card technology, caused IBM to issue a formal statement claiming that the Nazis controlled the operations of IBM Germany during the war. But Edwin’s research shows that Thomas J. Watson, founder and president of IBM during the company’s financial relationship with the Nazis, exercised more hands-on control of the operation than they care to admit.

In his Guerrilla News directorial debut, Paul Shore interviews the author and deploys GNN’s trademark design aesthetic in what is sure to be one of the most controversial documentaries about U.S. corporate complicity with the Nazi regime.