I JUST GOT A MIXING JOB DONE FOR A SONG, NEED FEEDBACK

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GHP

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i'm not listining to it hella loud but it sounds alright, the hats and higher frequencies are kinda slicing my throat but not bad at all. I've seen a hell of alot worse mixdowns get put on wax in the bay. I think it sounds pretty good. I'm not a lab coat mastering engineer but i think its a quality mix
 

HERESY

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Suggestions

Who did this beat? Sounds like they've been listening to Vince.V

PROBLEM: The vocals need to come up.

SOLUTION: Instead of cutting the vocals up, try reducing some of the instruments you have. In addition, have whoever is mixing the song automate the vox or ride the vocals at certain parts to make sure they cut through (especially at the end of the second verse.)

PROBLEM: Too many pops and crackles in the vocal tracks. "I aint trppin off the trick unless she PAY me PAY me. Thats just one example. You can find another examples of plosives within the first 4 bars of verse 2.

SOLUTION: That part needs to be a bit more smoother, and whoever is engineering can DUCK or CROSSFADE that part or authomate a compressor to remove it.

PROBLEM: The snare sounds as if it is too low.

SOLUTION: Cut it up.

PROBLEM: Drums aren't glued.

SOLUTION: Fly all the drum parts to a buss and place a compressor on that buss. go for no more than -3 to -6db of reduction and make sure that teh snare can still be heard without loosing much of the attack. You just want to "glue" everything together, and this will make the drums sound more cohesive. In addition, you'll be able to control all the drums this way, so you can boost for volume at the compressors gain/output or at your fader. You can also place an eq on the buss. But thats enough game for now on this problem.

PROBLEM: Not much dynamics in the song. This song sounds as if it has been compressed/limited and eq'd already. I haven't imported the song into any program yet, but if I did I already know the majority of peaks would be VERY close to -2db to 0db, and yes, your song can STILL clip at -2db to 0db even though the meters dont show it.

SOLUTION: If you are going to mastering give the mastering engineer two versions. Give him the "ceiling" or "PUSHED" (<---term I made up) version which would be the one you posted for us, and a FLAT version which would have no eq, compression/limiting or stereo widening on the master fader/master channel.

I didn't listen to it out of my monitors, but if you want me to I can look at everything in pro tools and tell you where some of the frequencies might need a cut or boost, but over all the mix isn't bad it can just use a bit more polishing in certain areas if you want it to stand out a lil bit more. Also, I would pan some of the instruments and vocals a bit different, but thats just according to my own preference.

I like the song also, has a club/commercial vibe to it, and thats saying a lot considering I don't really like club/commercial songs or much rap period. Who are you guys?


EDIT: The go go go go part of the hook should probably come up.
 

GHP

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there is alot of sibilance in some of the main vocals, you can fix that with a deesser or a little eq and an automation pass. I agree with it sounding a little squashed with over compression (so is most music nowadays) i still dont think its a bad mix at all. no mix is 100% perfect. Like i s said i think it sounds a hell of alot better than most of the shit that makes it on wax in todays bay area rap music which is a sad thing, its like they are too cheap to have it done right
 
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damn you guys are really informative, i really do appreciate all the info, it gives me something to tell him since im not too saavy on the mixing.

HERESY, thanks for the positive feedback man its good to hear that, anyway im basically your typical rapper trying to come up slowly in the game but i try to take myself more seriously than most people do because i think the bay has gone in a direction im not really feelin. Im the guy rapping on the second verse. Im also latin, so im tryin to take the stereotype of a latin rapper and flip that shit clean out. Most people think about latin rappers and think gangs, off-rhythm flowing, and content most people cant relate too, im just trying to break out of that norm. Im not declaring originality on my part, hence the content of the song. i love party music, gritty music just as much as the next guy. The other guy rapping is my teammate in this music stuff and hes trying to head the same direction. Hes also the one who got the beat, from what i know its some guy in vallejo that made the beat for him but ill have to ask him im diggin it too tho.

Anyway, it sounds like you know what your doing when it comes to this kind of stuff and i wanna know if you are interested in doing some mixing/mastering work for us. It sounds like you could do us some good. Let me know whats up when u can.
 
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***ALSO, the track sounded like maybe our doubles and ad libs could have been turned down a notch because it sorta felt like there was "3 or 4 of me's" rapping to the track if you know what i mean. Let me know what you think about that.
 

HERESY

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Thanks for the compliments, but you guys are the ones deserving of a compliment. I'm in vallejo, so if you can give me a name chances are I probably ran into the person before.

As far as mixing is concerned I wouldn't be able to take a full project on to be mixed due to other business arrangements.

However, I can provide you with consulting (more in depth than what I have done here), producing (not as in beat making, but directing the flow/tone of the song, song concepts, where you need to tighten it up, what fx to use etc,) and can be assistant engineer to your main guy. That way I can provide the alternate pair of ears and can do a better job at explaining the direction you want to take your project.

If this is something you are interested in drop me a pm before TUESDAY, because I will be flying to Las Vegas on Tuesday and won't be back until Saturday.

As far as the multiple takes you can cut them down if you want, or you can do something else. For that something else I would have to speak with you on pm because although I do like giving up game, I don't like giving up all the game. :cool:
 
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Just like to say thats a great track....
A lot better than most of the shit comin out these days....

n yeah, I hear a little Vince V. influence there too...cool beat thou
 
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I had to listen! lol
It's hella funny when people say it sounds like me, because to me it sounds nothing like me. I guess it's kinda like when people say you look like someone and you see the person and you're like WTF?? I look nothin like that! LOL
must be some certain sounds in there or somethin

it was a cool track tho!